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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 10:57 AM
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Help with squealing clutch (release bearing)

Hope someone has pertinent experience that can help me with this dilemma.

Clutch "experts" can't seem to be able to identify and remedy the squealing noise that emanates from the clutch when it is NOT depressed, but disappears with a slight pressure on the clutch pedal.

This video I posted on YouTube will help explain:

Apparently the source is the release bearing, aka throwout bearing, but after just having the clutch replaced a few days ago, the noisy clutch is the same as it was before the "clutch job".

Any suggestions appreciated since I have scheduled a new appointment with the shop that installed the new clutch (last week) to see if they can fix it with a replacement release bearing.

They suggested I "drive it around for a while and it will go away", but I'm not convinced of that since there is absolutely no change in the noise that persisted for quite a while before taking it in for a new clutch, and it is as it was BEFORE taking the car in for the clutch job earlier in the week.

Thanks,

Gene

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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 11:12 PM
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Re: Help with squealing clutch (release bearing)

Originally Posted by GeneL
Hope someone has pertinent experience that can help me with this dilemma.

Clutch "experts" can't seem to be able to identify and remedy the squealing noise that emanates from the clutch when it is NOT depressed, but disappears with a slight pressure on the clutch pedal.

This video I posted on YouTube will help explain:

Apparently the source is the release bearing, aka throwout bearing, but after just having the clutch replaced a few days ago, the noisy clutch is the same as it was before the "clutch job".

Any suggestions appreciated since I have scheduled a new appointment with the shop that installed the new clutch (last week) to see if they can fix it with a replacement release bearing.

They suggested I "drive it around for a while and it will go away", but I'm not convinced of that since there is absolutely no change in the noise that persisted for quite a while before taking it in for a new clutch, and it is as it was BEFORE taking the car in for the clutch job earlier in the week.

Thanks,

Gene
yup, its the throw out bearing. and since you have the linkage type. either they have the linkage too tight,or its a bad TB. usually ,if you buy a parts house clutch kit. its hit or miss with the quality. im interested in knowing what you end up with. so do post up what goes down. and that "oh, just drive it around. it will be ok" BULL SH^&. no, nada.
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Old Sep 7, 2014 | 07:13 PM
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Re: Help with squealing clutch (release bearing)

Sure like to hear other opinions so I can sound somewhat edumacated on my second visit to fix this thing.

Many thanks for your reply rusty vango.

I'll post the results of this Tuesday's followup appointment that, hopefully, will fix that persistent squeal once and for all and remove this black cloud of discontentment and dissatisfaction hovering over me.

Gene
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Old Sep 7, 2014 | 10:59 PM
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Re: Help with squealing clutch (release bearing)

I can't get the vid to play, but 99.99 percent of the time if you have a growl/pitch that goes away as you depress the clutch, it's a TO bearing.

Possibly something else, but since you PAID to have the clutch replace, and NOW you have the noise, let the shop sort it out...and I'm with Rusty....it isn't going away, won't get better, etc...

Take it back, you don't need to be educated in anything...here would be my conversation.

Me "My car didn't make noise when I brought it in for a new clutch"
Them "bla bla bla"

Me "fix it"

PS

Any shop who would not suggest Clutch, PP, TO and resurfacing (after inspection) of the flywheel to a customer, shouldn't be allowed to work on a car.
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Old Sep 7, 2014 | 11:24 PM
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Re: Help with squealing clutch (release bearing)

Thanks for your helpful advice 8Mike9, yeah, I'm prepared for a battle with the merchant if it comes to that. I can't live with that annoying squeal and see no reason it should have not been corrected with the "complete clutch replacement" I paid good money for and the warranty is supposed to cover.

Sorry you couldn't get the video to play, you'd find it explains better what I'm talking about and might confirm that it is indeed the throwout / clutch release bearing.

Here's a link to the video I posted on YouTube last Friday, hope this one works for you.

h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boPbjotHSE0

(post in your address bar and close the space after the first "h")

As a secondary source, here is a direct link to the same video posted in Photobucket:

http://vid1372.photobucket.com/album...ps84222c83.mp4

Gene

BTW...the squeal was there BEFORE I arranged for the clutch job completed last Tuesday and I expected this to be one of the things the new clutch would fix. Which of course, it did not.

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Old Sep 8, 2014 | 03:07 AM
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Re: Help with squealing clutch (release bearing)

Originally Posted by GeneL
Thanks for your helpful advice 8Mike9, yeah, I'm prepared for a battle with the merchant if it comes to that. I can't live with that annoying squeal and see no reason it should have not been corrected with the "complete clutch replacement" I paid good money for and the warranty is supposed to cover.

Sorry you couldn't get the video to play, you'd find it explains better what I'm talking about and might confirm that it is indeed the throwout / clutch release bearing.

Here's a link to the video I posted on YouTube last Friday, hope this one works for you.

h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boPbjotHSE0

(post in your address bar and close the space after the first "h")

As a secondary source, here is a direct link to the same video posted in Photobucket:

http://vid1372.photobucket.com/album...ps84222c83.mp4

Gene

BTW...the squeal was there BEFORE I arranged for the clutch job completed last Tuesday and I expected this to be one of the things the new clutch would fix. Which of course, it did not.
depending on the shops degree of "shadiness" you cant even be sure they replaced the entire assembly. they MAY have only replaced the clutch disc and called it done.leaving the pressure plate and throw out bearing as is.
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Old Sep 8, 2014 | 10:59 AM
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Re: Help with squealing clutch (release bearing)

Originally Posted by rusty vango
depending on the shops degree of "shadiness" you cant even be sure they replaced the entire assembly. they MAY have only replaced the clutch disc and called it done.leaving the pressure plate and throw out bearing as is.
This is exactly the problem we are all confronted with once we turn our vehicle over to a repair shop, reputable or not...we can only rely on what they tell or advise us they did, plus, as in my case, whether the vehicle performance improves (as it should) as the result of the "fix".

In my particular case, the fact that the clutch job should have fixed the squealing throwout/clutch release bearing, but didn't fix it, and also that the shifting of gears is not any smoother compared to before it went in for the new clutch, makes me suspect as to whether they actually performed the work as stated on the invoice. Sounds good on paper, but what did I really get for my money?

Anyway, I just called and confirmed tomorrow's appointment and asked what work will be performed and was told they would be replacing the throwout bearing.

Stay tuned!

Gene
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Old Aug 25, 2023 | 06:12 PM
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Re: Help with squealing clutch (release bearing)

Was this ever fixed?
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Old Aug 25, 2023 | 07:02 PM
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Re: Help with squealing clutch (release bearing)

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Was this ever fixed?
If you are having a similar issue, try bleeding the clutch system. A slight pressure on the release bearing can cause a slight engagement and slippage which can create a whiny noise on the release springs/arms.
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Old Aug 25, 2023 | 08:00 PM
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Re: Help with squealing clutch (release bearing)

Try also, replacing the clutch gear bearing retainer. It's the "front" "nose" if you will, of the transmission. The throwout rides along it; it wears; if it's far enough gone that the TOB gets cocked or hangs up or whatever, your clutch is NOT gonna work right. Yet, strange though it may seem (like I have any right to dismiss someone/something as "strange"), an inordinate number of "clutch" problems, might be traced to this.



The part right behind the front-most splines, with the 4 bolts holding it onto the front of the trans. Observe closely, the shiny spots on that part in the lower pic. IIRC before I re-used that transmission I replaced that piece, because more than just "shiny", there was a rut dug in that part there.
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