any one try the stroker kit for the 305? (335ci)
any one try the stroker kit for the 305? (335ci)
Has any one tried this kit before...its located at enginekits.com. I was wonder if its a good kit...its suposed to make 94 more hp on my carbed 305. Thanks
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For what it costs, you could have built a 350, which will make more horsepower and torque at all rpms.
Well, I checked it out a while ago (just was curious). Basically, if you wanna build up your 305, make it a 335, or what not. Cool, it just isnt as effective a building a 350, HP/$ wise. You CAN make a lot of power, but its more expensive. uh...thats about it...
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It has been discussed many times, but to summarize, it isn't worth it.
You'll have to do all the externally-balanced things to a 335 as you'd have to do to a 383. If you don't do heads/cam/exhaust at the same time, the extra 30 cubes aren't going to do you any good (certainly not 94 HP). If you do the heads/cam/exhaust on a 305, 94 HP is a piece of cake (mods in sig work out to 362 HP @ 6000 per Desktop Dyno, which translates to something over 300 for a net rating - that's a 145 HP increase for me).
Unless being "different" is worth a bunch to you, don't bother stroking a 305.
You'll have to do all the externally-balanced things to a 335 as you'd have to do to a 383. If you don't do heads/cam/exhaust at the same time, the extra 30 cubes aren't going to do you any good (certainly not 94 HP). If you do the heads/cam/exhaust on a 305, 94 HP is a piece of cake (mods in sig work out to 362 HP @ 6000 per Desktop Dyno, which translates to something over 300 for a net rating - that's a 145 HP increase for me).
Unless being "different" is worth a bunch to you, don't bother stroking a 305.
Instead oof buying a 335 stroker, do this.
Give me the 1500 or whatever the kit costs.
I will give you a 350 shortblock.
I will also kick you square in the nuts.
There. You now have everything that a 335 stroker kit would give you, with more power to boot. Enjoy.
Give me the 1500 or whatever the kit costs.
I will give you a 350 shortblock.
I will also kick you square in the nuts.
There. You now have everything that a 335 stroker kit would give you, with more power to boot. Enjoy.
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I made mine a 335... Should have it to a dyno in a week or so... It should be around 350hp or so... Email me if you want details.. webmaster@pontiacta.com
Originally posted by Vroom
I will also kick you square in the nuts.
There. You now have everything that a 335 stroker kit would give you, with more power to boot. Enjoy.
I will also kick you square in the nuts.
There. You now have everything that a 335 stroker kit would give you, with more power to boot. Enjoy.
Yeah, they're pretty much right. The 335 kit is for people that think that they can be cool by having an oddball engine go semi-fast.
It'll be faster than the stock 305, but slower than a comparibly equipped 350.
Besides, the 305 already has a long stroke, it certainly doesn't need any more. You've got to worry about piston/wall life in the block, with that kind of stroke-to-bore ratio.
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Originally posted by Vroom
Instead oof buying a 335 stroker, do this.
Give me the 1500 or whatever the kit costs.
I will give you a 350 shortblock.
I will also kick you square in the nuts.
Instead oof buying a 335 stroker, do this.
Give me the 1500 or whatever the kit costs.
I will give you a 350 shortblock.
I will also kick you square in the nuts.
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Originally posted by DABE
vroom...the stroker kit is $599....can you find me a DECENT 350 shortblock for that price....
vroom...the stroker kit is $599....can you find me a DECENT 350 shortblock for that price....
Last spring when I was poking around about doing the 305 stroker, I approached a local speed machine shop about doing the boring on my 305 block (I was working on a roller 305 block with a ZZ4 cam at the time). He told me he'd sell me a 350 roller block, do the machine work, and sell me the rotating assembly parts (forged pistons) for a 383 - the price he quoted was less than what I would have paid for the kit you're looking at and the machining costs on my 305. I could have just taken him up on the 350 roller core and rebuilt it for less than the 335 stroker kit alone.
You can do a 350 for that kind of money. You might have to do some leg work, but the return is usually pretty good on that type of investment.
Originally posted by DABE
vroom...the stroker kit is $599....can you find me a DECENT 350 shortblock for that price....
DABE
vroom...the stroker kit is $599....can you find me a DECENT 350 shortblock for that price....
DABE
tell me where...haha....im a student..and i dont have a lot of extra money....is it on the web?....i want to spend less than 600 bucks for a short block that DOESNT need rebuilding...
DABE
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Don't kid yourself. You're not going to spend $600 on that kit and have a running motor either... it will take at least that much more in machine work to install it. For what it will take to actually execute the 335 plan, you will be a couple of hundred dollars above the cost of buying and rebuilding a 350 engine. In any case, it's ridiculous to think that you're going to find a properly rebuilt short block for $600 or less.
The 350 is the way to go: it will cost you less in the long run, and run a whole lot stronger.
The 350 is the way to go: it will cost you less in the long run, and run a whole lot stronger.
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Originally posted by DABE
vroom...the stroker kit is $599....can you find me a DECENT 350 shortblock for that price....
DABE
vroom...the stroker kit is $599....can you find me a DECENT 350 shortblock for that price....
DABE
Biochem the moderator from here has a complete 350 shortblock sitting on his garage floor that we pulled out of his 84 less than a week ago. Nothing wrong with it whatsoever. He'll part with it for i think $300.
That deal is nothing special. I would have taken it with me but i decided that with 350 cores being a dime a dozen that i didn't want to be stuck with a shortblock in my vert driving back and forth to work for over a week.
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Dabe .... don't waste your money on the 335 kit but enginekits.com (aka Powerhouse) does have some good deals. I'm currently using their 355 6" rod kit. New forged .125 dome pistons, 6" rods, all bearings, rings, 10/10 crank, complete gasket kit. $599 for the kit when I bought it and it also comes completely balanced. There was an article in CHP last year sometime where they were comparing engine kits that you could purchase balanced already. The took each engine kit to a machine shop and had it re-balanced to check the work. The Powerhouse engine kit was so close to being perfectly balanced that the machine shop actually discounted the price for the re-balancing. Good engine kits.
alright....im getting suspension stuff 1st...then saving for a short block....need grip....my car likes to do the "wiggle"....i can lite em up thru 1st....i want to to hook up real well....thanks for all the info...DABE
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