crazy3rdgen

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Hey everyone my friend has a stock 95 neon sohc automatic vs my stock 89 rs camaro 2.8 v6 automatic. My question is who do you think will win?

Mike-in-Orange

I think the Neon would have you at first but you'd catch him soon enough. Those are fairly light but still put out what, 150HP (or was it 132HP back then....I can't remember). Either way, I'll bet it would be pretty close.

crazy3rdgen

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Its a 4cyc by the way lol 2.o liter. yeah its 150 hp..still confused on who will win

85f-bird

the neon would most liekly beat the camaro...stock for stock atlest, i'd have to say a neon w/ 150hp is a mid 16 second car, while a camaro with a six is only a 17 second car (in good tune) mid 17's if it's just doing eh, ok....

don't really see the purpose of racing him though, the end result is that a camaro (faster, or slower) is a better looking, and probably in the long run more desireable car than a neon. So, i guess it wouldn't make much of a difference, just don't let him think he's faster, and you'd be ok.

Mike-in-Orange

Yeah, don't laugh it off just 'cause it's a 4 banger. You've seen the little Lotus Elise? About 1.8L of naturally aspirated 4 banger and, because it weighs almost nothing, it will run to 60 in 5.5 seconds.

Of course, once you add a turbo to a 4 banger all bets are off. Think Neon SRT-4, Subaru WRX, Mitsubishi EVO, heck even a Chrysler PT Cruiser GT.

Dennis91RS

yeah man neon gets this one

Outlaw87

I hate to see a Camaro lose but the neon would have you on this one. And yes 4 bangers can be fast considering most of them are extremly light.

WaOnFiRe

I have raced against a Neon automatic stock in the past, I have won, I have a 2.8L Firebird, not by much, but I have won. I think it was a 1996 Neon that time

Mike-in-Orange

Yeah, one thing that wasn't mentioned before......if you've got two cars as closely matched as the stock Neon and a V6 ThirdGen then the win usually goes to the best driver. So WaOnFiRe, good for you dude!

Faded

I beat my friends 5speed '95 Neon twice in a row with my old 2.8L and a bad clutch.

camaro_junkie

I think the funniest thing is some of these Camaros in good shape have higher resale values than neons that aren't that old. The neon is the just the k-car of the 90s-00s, another Chrysler pos.

steven90GTA

It looks to be a close race, but im afraid that the neon may have it by a little unless he can't drive

Jgolden314

neon has it, i used to daily drive a 95 neon sohc auto, from a roll i would beat alot of cars suprisingly. I was neck and neck with an 01 impala with a 3.8 until 70, from a 35mph roll.

CamaroManBlack

It seems to me that the 2-door Neons are quite a bit more nimble than the 4-door ones. I've managed to beat out 4-door Neons from traffic lights up to 45-50mph on the boulevard, till I backed off for fear of cops, and I only have the 2BBL carbureted 2.8...factory horsepower on this motor is embarrassing, too. But those 2-door cars....like was said above, they're so light that those 4-cylinder's have no problem pushing them up to speed.

On the subject of resale value; I notice in my area's classifieds that a neon as late as 97 is usually listed for only $2500--and that's in GOOD condition. A '98 only gets $500 more. For Camaro's, however, I've seen stock Z-28's as old as '83 sell for $3500

Jgolden314

Some neons are sleepers too though. Like i have stated in the past, my buddy has a 96 ARC neon with a built motor. It looks stock on the outside, and is quiet until it goes WOT. IT is a 2 door, weighing in at only 2200 lbs.

CamaroManBlack

Losing to a Neon like that would just suck, period. I don't even think about trying to provoke anything new with 2 doors...with my motor I know better and am not about to embarrass myself by losing to an economy car like that. I have a bit of performance motor work to do

crazy3rdgen

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lol im not losing to this neon omg that would be embarassing its a 4 door by the way, not a 2 door

Mike-in-Orange

Honestly, I think the 2000 Dodge Stratus ES V6 I traded in 4 months ago would outrun my wife's 92 V6 RS. C'mon guys, we simply have to admit that a V6 Thirdgen just ain't that fast, no matter how many other good points they have going for them! Heck, I just like the way it feels sitting nice and low with that long hood in front of me, and that's gonna have to do it with this car.

Killogy

Sorry fellas, I got a friend with a sleeper neon also. But as for the 2 door neons being lighter, they aren't. The 4 doors are like 75 lbs or something lighter believe it or not. You can look it up. And the Neon will probably win. I've had a 2.8 bird before and that thing couldn't get out of its own way.

camaro_junkie

Yet!

crazy3rdgen

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I know this stock bullshi* is pretty stupid .. lol were just doin it for fun. i Know im going to put a bored out 350 with a super charger in my 3rdgen soon.. but lol this will be a close race i think! i kno i have him off the line for sure! i just have to worry about his top end . hopefully he'll be in the mirror the whole 1/4 mile usually its mustangs hah

Camin89Camaro

My moms beater car is a 96 sohc neon auto and its a dog from a dead stop once the rpms get up it does a little better but ive never rode in a v6 thirdgen i know my 170,xxxm 305 would kill it

CamaroManBlack

The 4-doors weigh that CLOSE to the 2-doors?? I would have thought that it would have been enough of a difference to say so. That's disturbing.

87LS

Being a proud owner of a neon, I would have to say if the car was maintained and in good condition it will be VERY close. The automatics are DOGS. I have a stick and it makes it a bit more peppy. You should take him, if he has ANY mods though your toast. That is just my opinion

FbodTrek

You guys do realize this is the slowest neon made right? It only has 8 valves! Even with exhaust hedder and no interior, it won't beat the 3rdgen. My sister has a Mitsu Mirage with a similar motor, I could outrun her on foot. If it was a DOHC motor, yeah, he'd probably have a close race, but COME ON!

crazy3rdgen

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I agree with you because theres like no way..lol maybe i should just use my granmoms metro to even out the odds ha. but his car like dawgs out soo much off the line.. only thing is has id say is alittle top end.. neon=beat by a camaro baitch

brodyscamaro

if they are both auto's then what kinda skill is needed? preventing the power from making you spin through third?

crazy3rdgen

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yeah how hard is it to push the pedal to the floor... aint no granny shiftin gunna happen in automatics... neon - dead meat

crazy3rdgen

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wow.. 4 years later. Is funny looking back at the goofy post I made.

Klewis89RS

That would be the most boring race ever.

freestylzz

Can we have a 3-way race?

I'll be peddaling my mountain bike.

noroxus

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so, who won?

crazy3rdgen

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this was 4 years ago.. i sold the car, and my friend struck a phone poll with his peon. But ya he beat me lol, my car never shifted on point, pretty much revved out up to 6500 and stayed there.. wouldnt shift till i left off the gas lol. But he did a manual swap and she was a little faster. I dunno what i was thinken back in the day haha, please no bashing! it was my first car and didnt know too much. I think i came along tho lol.

v10viper04

My friend has a 4-door neon i think its a 95' but i raced him for ***** and giggles one day and i beat him at 1/2 throttle one time haha( i tested my theory) and i know my car is modded but i mean i gave him about a mile head start and blew past him hahaha it was so funny cause he had his g/f with him and i was embarrassing him like crazy. hahahaha it was fun though.

91z 2 8

NVM didnt see it was already over lol

fryer1979

LMFAO, never saw this post before. About 4 years ago I had a '89 RS with a 305 and a 700R4 as a daily driver. The only mods I had were a K&N filter, an MSD ignition coil, and a flowmaster 60 series muffler. A buddy of mine had a '96 Eclipse (same car as a neon) that had a DOHC and a 5-spd with the usual bolt ons, cat-back exhaust, cold air intake, etc. We used to cruise all the time together, and raced almost every weekend. I almost always beat him, but it was only by a car legnth or two. Those were some of the best racing memories I had, thanks for bringing them back. God I miss that car.

crazy3rdgen

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heck yeaaa, we all start somewhere.. i think back in the day i had the best time.. because i thought all the little things were soo great lol. nowadays the faster i go the more it cost. Its fun but not the same as back then haha

fryer1979

Actually at that time I had the 1979 Camaro, which was a lot faster than that RS, and I had previously owned an '89 IROC that was a wild modified street car with around 750 hp. But I hear what you are saying though, my first car was a (gasp!) 1862 Ford Falcon with a straight six, and I wish I still had it. My high school project was a swap from the stock six to a 5.0 and an AOD from a rolled 87 mustang GT, got an A naturally seeing as I drove the Falcon to my graduation. My heart has always been with the F-bodies, so I sold the Falcon to aquire the afore mentioned IROC. That RS came about some years later when my 79 Camaro was the only car I had and it needed to go down for some hefty repairs. So I picked up this clean black RS with fairly low miles to drive in the process. I wound up keeping the car for a few years, (it even went with me on my honeymoon) and it turned out to be the best car I have ever owned, that little TBI 305 got 28mpg regularly and never gave any problems at all. I hated to sell it and still wish like crazy I never did. Broke my heart when the kid who bought it from me was broadsided by a drunk driver, he was ok but the car was not. RIP.

91firebird350

Ive build a few and owned just about eveey year neon and there peppy if done right, and there much better then some sport compacts aswell. Here are the correct motor specs

95-05 SOHC - 132hp
95-99 DOHC - 150hp
01-03 SOHC R/T - 150hp
03 SRT 4 - 215hp
04-05 SRT 4 230hp

The later model R/T take to mods great less teh fact the computer limits them.

Be aware though, people are stuffing 2.4 stratus motors into there 1st gen neons and they look stock and get mad power out of them.

crazy3rdgen

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isnt this ironic. SO turns out i bought an 02 SS back in like 05-06, and for a DD I purchased a little 98 rt neon to beat around in. Well now it has a fully built 2.4 out of a stratus. hahaha. Havent come across a race in it yet but on low boost it trapped 127