Serious question for all Mustang guys
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Serious question for all Mustang guys
This applies more to fox bodies as I think that the newest style is at least an improvement:
Do you actually like the looks of your car?
Personally, I find nothing unique, pleasing, nice to look at in the fox bodies. They look very much like the escorts and like passenger cars. All mustangs look more like passenger cars, really (although I love the Shelbys). From a distance, I can tell an F-body so easily. I can tell you if it's a firebird or a camaro when it's so far away that there is very little detail. Without seeing the emblems, I can almost always pick V6 or V8 (obviously the SS and WS6 give themselves away). I am never able to pick out a mustang in the distance--they are more upright and narrow.
I realize this is part of the reason why mustangs kill camaros+firebirds in sales--the entire reason being that the majority of people are big p u s s i e s when it comes to cars and mustangs are more like regular passenger cars.
By the way, the 351w in my name is for the shelby cobra replica I built with my dad. (Don't start with the kit car nonsense--it is all based on retards putting ferrari, lamborghini, etc. bodies on fieros as I've said before.)
Do you actually like the looks of your car?
Personally, I find nothing unique, pleasing, nice to look at in the fox bodies. They look very much like the escorts and like passenger cars. All mustangs look more like passenger cars, really (although I love the Shelbys). From a distance, I can tell an F-body so easily. I can tell you if it's a firebird or a camaro when it's so far away that there is very little detail. Without seeing the emblems, I can almost always pick V6 or V8 (obviously the SS and WS6 give themselves away). I am never able to pick out a mustang in the distance--they are more upright and narrow.
I realize this is part of the reason why mustangs kill camaros+firebirds in sales--the entire reason being that the majority of people are big p u s s i e s when it comes to cars and mustangs are more like regular passenger cars.
By the way, the 351w in my name is for the shelby cobra replica I built with my dad. (Don't start with the kit car nonsense--it is all based on retards putting ferrari, lamborghini, etc. bodies on fieros as I've said before.)
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i don't own a mustang, but honestly, the fox body is pretty much the only style i like. they look bad *** with a cowl hood, saleen wing, and cobra rims, and they sound even better. it may be hard to tell if it's a mustang from a distance by looking at it, but from the sound, you'll know it. i almost bought one before i got my camaro. i'd have to say it's one of my favorite cars behind a third gen camaro and a trans am gta.
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Yeah. I like the looks of my car. I think it looks great. The thing that makes most Stangs stand out are the 16" "pony" rims, gfx, and cheese grater taillights.
I plan on getting a Cervini Cobra body kit for my GT. I already have the Cobra taillights. I also like my 16" ponies. Plus my Mustang looks so mean with a four-inch cowl hood. It also stands out from the rest very easily, because it's the only one in my city that drives with t-tops off.
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I plan on getting a Cervini Cobra body kit for my GT. I already have the Cobra taillights. I also like my 16" ponies. Plus my Mustang looks so mean with a four-inch cowl hood. It also stands out from the rest very easily, because it's the only one in my city that drives with t-tops off.
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I like all GT mustangs.
Why do mustangs sound so nice? Its like they Purr.
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Who wants an exhaust that sounds like that?? I want a crazy drag car, rumbling, tough sounding, the guy in the car next to u won't look over because u are shaking his doors and windows kind of exhaust. I've heard it on many modded Third Gens, never a M*****g though. Same with friends.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8:
Who wants an exhaust that sounds like that?? I want a crazy drag car, rumbling, tough sounding, the guy in the car next to u won't look over because u are shaking his doors and windows kind of exhaust. I've heard it on many modded Third Gens, never a M*****g though. Same with friends. </font>
Who wants an exhaust that sounds like that?? I want a crazy drag car, rumbling, tough sounding, the guy in the car next to u won't look over because u are shaking his doors and windows kind of exhaust. I've heard it on many modded Third Gens, never a M*****g though. Same with friends. </font>
But the purring sound is nice though, wish I could have both. But If I had to pick, it would be the chevy obviously
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8:
I want a crazy drag car, rumbling, tough sounding, the guy in the car next to u won't look over because u are shaking his doors and windows kind of exhaust. </font>
I want a crazy drag car, rumbling, tough sounding, the guy in the car next to u won't look over because u are shaking his doors and windows kind of exhaust. </font>
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I like the early Mustangs, up to and including the '70 model year. I REALLY like the 70 Boss 302 and Boss 429 Mustangs. After that, I think Mustangs are ugly, especially the Fox bodies, until the present day model. I like the way the brand new Mustangs look, after they changed the horizontal rear lights to vertical, and took the rounded "vents" off the doors and gave them the more square look. I like that new tanish gray color too.
But when it comes to F-bodies, I like the 1st gens, especially the 69 Camaro RS/SS. I really never cared for the 2nd gens, except for those 455SD T/A's and the 70 Camaro is ok. I obviously like 3rd gens, IROC's being my favorite. 93-97, I like the Camaros, but not the birds. 98-01, I REALLY like the T/A's (Black with Ram-Air are awesome), but I don't like the looks of the new Camaros at all.
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But when it comes to F-bodies, I like the 1st gens, especially the 69 Camaro RS/SS. I really never cared for the 2nd gens, except for those 455SD T/A's and the 70 Camaro is ok. I obviously like 3rd gens, IROC's being my favorite. 93-97, I like the Camaros, but not the birds. 98-01, I REALLY like the T/A's (Black with Ram-Air are awesome), but I don't like the looks of the new Camaros at all.
Just my 2 cents.
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I like the Fox body Mustangs and even the newer ones, at least they kept the original stlye present in modding the body to be "aerodynamic". NOT LIKE THE CAMARO!
I can't agree more!
But with the new design of the camaro and firebird (however I still like the firebirds more than the camaros) for the 4th gens GM lost the original style of these cars especially the camaro.
Like BuckeyeROC I think the new firebirds with a dual snorkel hood is awesome and very intimitating (sp?).
A friend of mine put it this way the new camaros (4th gen lt1 and ls1) LOOK like a GEO on STEROIDS!
Yea, maybe.
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But when it comes to F-bodies, I like the 1st gens, especially the 69 Camaro RS/SS. I really never cared for the 2nd gens, except for those 455SD T/A's and the 70 Camaro is ok. I obviously like 3rd gens, IROC's being my favorite.
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But when it comes to F-bodies, I like the 1st gens, especially the 69 Camaro RS/SS. I really never cared for the 2nd gens, except for those 455SD T/A's and the 70 Camaro is ok. I obviously like 3rd gens, IROC's being my favorite.
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But with the new design of the camaro and firebird (however I still like the firebirds more than the camaros) for the 4th gens GM lost the original style of these cars especially the camaro.
Like BuckeyeROC I think the new firebirds with a dual snorkel hood is awesome and very intimitating (sp?).
A friend of mine put it this way the new camaros (4th gen lt1 and ls1) LOOK like a GEO on STEROIDS!
Yea, maybe.
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I've never thought about the geo on steroids thing, but now that you mention it...
Of the 4th gens, I think the ram air firebirds are the meanest looking cars to ever come out of the showrooms, but the Z28's do nothing for me aeshetically.
The fox body Mustang is really my favorite design of any car ever made. It's not a flashy design like the F-bodies, but to each his own. It's more reminiscent of the original pony car days with the short deck and long nose. I can spot them from as far away as the eye can see and can pick out their exhaust tone from just as far away. I have to respectfully disagree with you guys on which has the best sounding exhaust note out there. Short of a Ferrari at 9000 rpm, there's nothing sweeter sounding than a Mustang with headers, an offroad pipe, and magnaflows.
What's under the hood is really more important to me than looks anyway. If I had my choice of a '95 Hyundai Accent with a turbo'd 2.0 stuffed under the hood or a bone stock Mustang, I'd take the the Accent. If I had my choice of a 350 hp Camaro or a stock Mustang...I'd take the Camaro. If I had my choice of a stock anything and a stock Mustang...I'd take the Mustang.
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Of the 4th gens, I think the ram air firebirds are the meanest looking cars to ever come out of the showrooms, but the Z28's do nothing for me aeshetically.
The fox body Mustang is really my favorite design of any car ever made. It's not a flashy design like the F-bodies, but to each his own. It's more reminiscent of the original pony car days with the short deck and long nose. I can spot them from as far away as the eye can see and can pick out their exhaust tone from just as far away. I have to respectfully disagree with you guys on which has the best sounding exhaust note out there. Short of a Ferrari at 9000 rpm, there's nothing sweeter sounding than a Mustang with headers, an offroad pipe, and magnaflows.
What's under the hood is really more important to me than looks anyway. If I had my choice of a '95 Hyundai Accent with a turbo'd 2.0 stuffed under the hood or a bone stock Mustang, I'd take the the Accent. If I had my choice of a 350 hp Camaro or a stock Mustang...I'd take the Camaro. If I had my choice of a stock anything and a stock Mustang...I'd take the Mustang.
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I like the purring of the Mustang exhaust. Mine sounds a lot that way. It is relatively quiet at idle, and is completely smooth from about 1300 rpms on. I currently have True Dual 2 1/2" exhaust with a hedman X-pipe, Dynomax headers, glasspacks and free flowing cats. It is a lot quieter than my old 2 1/4" flowmaster/straight pipe setup, but sounds more refined now, and produces a lot more power.
While I was in military technical training, I drove my friends 1990 Mustang GT, which had a larger spoiler than stock, and some 3:73 gears, and some other mods I am not sure of. The car really impressed me with how it drove, & how it looked. (the headlights cutting off at 10:30 pm on the way to New Orleans did not). My car could outhandle the Mustang, but the Mustang could be easily made to outhandle me as well. I would be happy with either car, but I am happier with my Firebird.
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While I was in military technical training, I drove my friends 1990 Mustang GT, which had a larger spoiler than stock, and some 3:73 gears, and some other mods I am not sure of. The car really impressed me with how it drove, & how it looked. (the headlights cutting off at 10:30 pm on the way to New Orleans did not). My car could outhandle the Mustang, but the Mustang could be easily made to outhandle me as well. I would be happy with either car, but I am happier with my Firebird.
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I think the fox body mustangs were some of the best mustangs built except for those back in the real muscle car era. They have a great body style(especially an lx notchback),one hell of a motor,and an exhaust tone that is hard to beat. Hell I even drive a fox body car as a daily driver(91 lincoln lsc). I think the fox body mustangs are great cars and I would be proud to own one seeing that it's a great piece of american muscle.
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Fox-Body, which years does that refer to, I thought only the 80's early 90s, I just want to make sure. I like the looks of them as well. I like the 80's coupes better than the hatchbacks, but I think on either of those, if you put a whale tail(I think that's what I had on mine, a wing either way) and a cowl induct hood, they look awesome. I had an '80 Mustang w/302 and didn't have it long enough to fix the appearance, the concrete slab took care of that.
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The Mustangs that have that great exhaust sound (w/ the 302 anyway) is due to the firing order. Something that GM has just now figured out. They finally decided to change it in the LS1.
I like Mustangs due to the fact that they are 'subtle' in there appearance. They can have a great 'sleeper' look, if done right. I don't much care for the GT. The 89-93 LX 5.0 is a nice style. Gotta be a 5 spd though.
The newer ones are OK. They were better with the 302 though. 95 was the last year for that motor in those cars. They followed the trend of the "European" OHC design, and it worked. The 4.6L has no real low RPM torque, but they geared the Mustang so it still pulls hard even with that motor.
The problem that I have with the Mustangs is the fact that every Tom, **** , and Harry has one. I've never been one to follow the crowd. I would rather go wandering off in another direction.
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I like Mustangs due to the fact that they are 'subtle' in there appearance. They can have a great 'sleeper' look, if done right. I don't much care for the GT. The 89-93 LX 5.0 is a nice style. Gotta be a 5 spd though.
The newer ones are OK. They were better with the 302 though. 95 was the last year for that motor in those cars. They followed the trend of the "European" OHC design, and it worked. The 4.6L has no real low RPM torque, but they geared the Mustang so it still pulls hard even with that motor.
The problem that I have with the Mustangs is the fact that every Tom, **** , and Harry has one. I've never been one to follow the crowd. I would rather go wandering off in another direction.
AJ
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The Fox body Mustangs ran from 1979 - 1993, when they were then switched over the SN95 platform.
Some other common Fox bodies are Thunderbird's, Lincoln LSC's, 1979-1986 Mercury Capri's, Mercury Cougars, and Ford Fairmont's. Actually, the Fairmont is really the "father" of the Fox body seeing as it was the first one made.
I personally prefer a stock appearing notch, maybe a cowl hood but that's it. With the GT's and LX Hatchback's, I agree...the Saleen or Cobra wings look great on them.
Some other common Fox bodies are Thunderbird's, Lincoln LSC's, 1979-1986 Mercury Capri's, Mercury Cougars, and Ford Fairmont's. Actually, the Fairmont is really the "father" of the Fox body seeing as it was the first one made.
I personally prefer a stock appearing notch, maybe a cowl hood but that's it. With the GT's and LX Hatchback's, I agree...the Saleen or Cobra wings look great on them.
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the foxbody LX notch back may have been the fastest... but are they fugly!!
i dont mind the other foxbodies much other than the fact they look like escorts
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i dont mind the other foxbodies much other than the fact they look like escorts
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Well, I like mine!
But I do agree with the comments that the car does look like an escort/passenger car. To be honest, before I got into Mustangs, i never liked the Fox style. I was only into the 94-up style. I saw my first Fox one day and was like "That's a Mustang?"
When I was looking for a car, it was either A Camaro or a Mustang, both 3rd gens. I knew nothing about the performance of either at that point, and the only reason I went for the Mustang is because I LOVED the exhaust!
Now the cars just grew on me. I still think the 3rd gen Camaro is a meaner design and more low-profile, but for some reason I like the stangs more and more as I came to realize their performance potential.
The Fox Body stang is the years from 1979-1993. the 87-93 Body style is the rounded style like mine, from 79-86, they were the 4-eye stangs. I think an 86GT with the 4-eye front and fog lights is the meanest style out there.
Everybody has a 94-up SN95 Mustang. I see 10 a day, mostly V6's. Every high school kid out there drives one. Where I live though, Foxes are a dying breed. I can go for weeks without seeing another 5.0 drive past me. (I don't count 4-bangers...they suck) Clean foxes are becoming harder and harder to find. ANd for some reason, kids think civics are faster so they don't want them anymore. I Like being one of the few foxes left in my area.
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But I do agree with the comments that the car does look like an escort/passenger car. To be honest, before I got into Mustangs, i never liked the Fox style. I was only into the 94-up style. I saw my first Fox one day and was like "That's a Mustang?"
When I was looking for a car, it was either A Camaro or a Mustang, both 3rd gens. I knew nothing about the performance of either at that point, and the only reason I went for the Mustang is because I LOVED the exhaust!
Now the cars just grew on me. I still think the 3rd gen Camaro is a meaner design and more low-profile, but for some reason I like the stangs more and more as I came to realize their performance potential.
The Fox Body stang is the years from 1979-1993. the 87-93 Body style is the rounded style like mine, from 79-86, they were the 4-eye stangs. I think an 86GT with the 4-eye front and fog lights is the meanest style out there.
Everybody has a 94-up SN95 Mustang. I see 10 a day, mostly V6's. Every high school kid out there drives one. Where I live though, Foxes are a dying breed. I can go for weeks without seeing another 5.0 drive past me. (I don't count 4-bangers...they suck) Clean foxes are becoming harder and harder to find. ANd for some reason, kids think civics are faster so they don't want them anymore. I Like being one of the few foxes left in my area.
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The GT's with 4 recessed headlights are very cool... but when they switched to the non recessed two headlight ('87?) front fascia (directly above) it became a bad *** escort... GT's also look much better when the T-tops are off.
As for the sound, the 2002 Cobra was awarded the loudest in interior noise (81 dB) at cruising speed... I bet that it's won that award more than once. I don't want to go deaf myself though, so you can keep your 150 dB drag racers on the strip.
As for the sound, the 2002 Cobra was awarded the loudest in interior noise (81 dB) at cruising speed... I bet that it's won that award more than once. I don't want to go deaf myself though, so you can keep your 150 dB drag racers on the strip.
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I dont mind stangs. They look pretty cool. I dont think they look nearly as aggressive as an f body. Buttthe fox bodies look way better then the newer mustangs(94-present). The only newer one that looks good is like the rousch, cobra R and Saleen, and not too many people i know would pay $50,000 for any of them when you can get a nice vette for that much and IMO look way better.
The whole thing is realy just opinion related tho. So you guys can say "I LIKE mustangs better" or "I LIKE f bodies better", but please, all of this fox bodies do look better and f bodies do look better has to stop. This is just an opinionated topic.
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The whole thing is realy just opinion related tho. So you guys can say "I LIKE mustangs better" or "I LIKE f bodies better", but please, all of this fox bodies do look better and f bodies do look better has to stop. This is just an opinionated topic.
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I personally think that the Firebirds and Camaros had a meaner look to them than the fox bodied Mustangs, but I also like the fact that stock for stock a 305 vs a 302, the 302 would win. That and the fact my dad had one led me too the stang. Most kids with Camaros respect my Mustang, just like I respect their cars, but it's those CRX and Civic owners that can't stand the Mustangs. My original car that I sold was a 1966 Black/Red Coupe with a 1969 302 and an '88 5-speed. I think those were the nicest years, but the fox bodies are a close second. My theory is too each his own, unless he owns a rice burner, then I probably won't like him!!!
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I have always liked the 79-93's mostly 87-93. I still want my all time favorite 69 Mach 1 428SCJ like my dad had. I like all muscle cars especially Hemi Cudas,67-69 Camaro's,and others similar. I was almost going to sell my car but since I switched to it over to a 5spd no way!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ChillPhatCat:
GT's also look much better when the T-tops are off. </font>
GT's also look much better when the T-tops are off. </font>
I also like that 86 GT hood blackout package, and I am getting my car painted that 1999 Cobra Electric Green, and getting the cowl part of my hood with that blackout scheme.
I don't know whether to go with the stalker front bumper or go saleen...probably Saleen.
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"A friend of mine put it this way the new camaros (4th gen lt1 and ls1) LOOK like a GEO on STEROIDS!"
Actually, the exact words i said to my dad when i first saw a 4th gen were "That looks like a stretched out geo storm." And it kinda does, but they really look great modded. From 94-97 i think they're kinda boring looking stock, some more than others though. I'd still get one if i could afford it, but i'd much prefer a firebird of those years looks wise.
About the Fox Stangs, again, some are better than others. I think to hit their true potential for appearence, the LXs look so much better with mods, but the GTs rule IMO, especially in a soild color instead of two tone.
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Actually, the exact words i said to my dad when i first saw a 4th gen were "That looks like a stretched out geo storm." And it kinda does, but they really look great modded. From 94-97 i think they're kinda boring looking stock, some more than others though. I'd still get one if i could afford it, but i'd much prefer a firebird of those years looks wise.
About the Fox Stangs, again, some are better than others. I think to hit their true potential for appearence, the LXs look so much better with mods, but the GTs rule IMO, especially in a soild color instead of two tone.
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I really am shocked. I didn't know that anyone cared for the looks of the fox mustangs. I remember years ago (I was about 12), when I wasn't into cars and didn't know anything about them (read if you showed me a picture of a car, be it C/K or Corvette, I could not have even named it): I was walking one day and I saw this one car. It looked rather plain, and I read the badge on the back. It said Mustang. It was the first car I had ever looked at so I did not know anything about mustangs except that they had a reputation for being performance cars (Oh, the lies that fill children's head ). I remember I just looked at it, totally unimpressed, I thought, "The Mustang has come to this??" I wondered why a car that looked like that would have the reputation it did. Why did I even know about it's reputation? I don't know. Anyway, the car was later fox style LX notchback. As this was 6 years ago, I don't remember if it was a 5.0 or not. Anyway, having never looked at a car before (of course I had seen cars, but you know what I mean), I considered the Mustang to be ugly.
The styling has just never done anything for me. Truly, that 5.0 is a great motor and new ones can be had for $1200!! If the foxes were not so ugly (inside and out--I HATE THE INTERIOR AND REALLY HATE THE NEW MUSTANG INTERIOR!), I may have bought one instead of my 91 formula WS6. Of course the third gen f-bodies handle very nicely. However, since I don't drive fast (I like quick--accleration is less likely to get me a ticket) perharps the nimbleness of a fox would have better suited me. Then there's the dual exhaust thing. I have been planning my duals (and waiting for parts) for 3 months. I am finally installing them--SLP headers to car-sound cats to moroso spiral flow mufflers, exit before rear axle--this weekend and next week.
But then I look at my formula and I am just awed. I could park that puppy in the sun, set up a lawn chair and sit and look at it for a while every day. Its looks are beautiful and timeless to me. I really like the power bulge hood (asimetrico!), but next paint job (years on down the road) I'll get a U.S. Body 3.5" cowl hood for it.
It really is one of my favorite cars. I think that if I had a fox mustang (wouldn't have a new one unless DOHC), I would probably like the performance (more stock than my 305/5.slow tpi dual cats--oh wait, I don't even have exhaust right now, much less cats. I'll have to see how much power I gain with my new system), I would probably like the handling (I drove my brother's friend's 93 GT with headers, 40 flows and the handling was better than I expected, given the taller, narrower nature of the car--hate the high seating position), but I would not love it at all like I love mine. It's really interesting to me that some of you go crazy over that car.
Whatever.
The styling has just never done anything for me. Truly, that 5.0 is a great motor and new ones can be had for $1200!! If the foxes were not so ugly (inside and out--I HATE THE INTERIOR AND REALLY HATE THE NEW MUSTANG INTERIOR!), I may have bought one instead of my 91 formula WS6. Of course the third gen f-bodies handle very nicely. However, since I don't drive fast (I like quick--accleration is less likely to get me a ticket) perharps the nimbleness of a fox would have better suited me. Then there's the dual exhaust thing. I have been planning my duals (and waiting for parts) for 3 months. I am finally installing them--SLP headers to car-sound cats to moroso spiral flow mufflers, exit before rear axle--this weekend and next week.
But then I look at my formula and I am just awed. I could park that puppy in the sun, set up a lawn chair and sit and look at it for a while every day. Its looks are beautiful and timeless to me. I really like the power bulge hood (asimetrico!), but next paint job (years on down the road) I'll get a U.S. Body 3.5" cowl hood for it.
It really is one of my favorite cars. I think that if I had a fox mustang (wouldn't have a new one unless DOHC), I would probably like the performance (more stock than my 305/5.slow tpi dual cats--oh wait, I don't even have exhaust right now, much less cats. I'll have to see how much power I gain with my new system), I would probably like the handling (I drove my brother's friend's 93 GT with headers, 40 flows and the handling was better than I expected, given the taller, narrower nature of the car--hate the high seating position), but I would not love it at all like I love mine. It's really interesting to me that some of you go crazy over that car.
Whatever.
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I obviously have my preference for GM pony cars, but i'm okay with the old fox-body mustangs. IMHO i think they're kinda ugly and the sleek thirdgens look much better, but what they lack on the aesthetic side they makeup for in the fact that they project that tough muscle car attitude if you get what i mean. Performance-wise the fox-bodies signified that one period in the long history of f-body vs. mustang that ford had the edge.
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But when it's all said and done, it doesn't really matter who was fastest from the factory because stock sucks and none of us are planning on keeping our cars stock anyway
I saw the nicest notch I've seen in a long time last night...had drag springs on it so it was sitting pretty low in the rear and had a set of ET Streets on the back. 2 1/2" cowl hood, and an aluminum wing. This thing just looked like it was ready to explode off the line and that's what I love so much about a fox body Mustang. Not many cars look as mean.
I saw the nicest notch I've seen in a long time last night...had drag springs on it so it was sitting pretty low in the rear and had a set of ET Streets on the back. 2 1/2" cowl hood, and an aluminum wing. This thing just looked like it was ready to explode off the line and that's what I love so much about a fox body Mustang. Not many cars look as mean.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CHEVY_EATER:
I still want my all time favorite 69 Mach 1 428SCJ like my dad had. I like all muscle cars especially Hemi Cudas,67-69 Camaro's,and others similar.</font>
I still want my all time favorite 69 Mach 1 428SCJ like my dad had. I like all muscle cars especially Hemi Cudas,67-69 Camaro's,and others similar.</font>
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I like mustangs, but i like camaro's better. in my crew there are a few 5.0 gt's, and they are all nice, this is just one of them next to my camaro. i think they are both nice looking cars.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nic:
I have to respectfully disagree with you guys on which has the best sounding exhaust note out there. Short of a Ferrari at 9000 rpm, there's nothing sweeter sounding than a Mustang with headers, an offroad pipe, and magnaflows.
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I have to respectfully disagree with you guys on which has the best sounding exhaust note out there. Short of a Ferrari at 9000 rpm, there's nothing sweeter sounding than a Mustang with headers, an offroad pipe, and magnaflows.
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BTW, for those of you who want to hear a good example of a fox-body stang's exhaust go to: http://www.mustanggt.org/
let me know what you think. Can you honestly say that you like any F-bodies exhaust more than that?
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I think the mid 80s to early 90 (dont know the years for mustangs) GTs ..black look awesome .... but the LXs dont turn my head..although there is one guy over at nethirdgen that would turn my head.
but give me a black Iroc :drools: or a GNX any day of the week
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 12sMustang:
I agree with you 100% I have the best sounding car I've ever heard. My dad had a 99 vette, and told me that he wished it sounded like that stang. My current car is a 5.0 with headers, off-road H, dual chamber flows, and a very slight lope at idle. It sounds awesome. I haven't even heard other stangs that sound this good, and I get comments on it almost daily. It's slightly louder than stock, but doesn't annoy anyone.
BTW, for those of you who want to hear a good example of a fox-body stang's exhaust go to: http://www.mustanggt.org/
let me know what you think. Can you honestly say that you like any F-bodies exhaust more than that?
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I agree with you 100% I have the best sounding car I've ever heard. My dad had a 99 vette, and told me that he wished it sounded like that stang. My current car is a 5.0 with headers, off-road H, dual chamber flows, and a very slight lope at idle. It sounds awesome. I haven't even heard other stangs that sound this good, and I get comments on it almost daily. It's slightly louder than stock, but doesn't annoy anyone.
BTW, for those of you who want to hear a good example of a fox-body stang's exhaust go to: http://www.mustanggt.org/
let me know what you think. Can you honestly say that you like any F-bodies exhaust more than that?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 12sMustang:
I agree with you 100% I have the best sounding car I've ever heard. My dad had a 99 vette, and told me that he wished it sounded like that stang. My current car is a 5.0 with headers, off-road H, dual chamber flows, and a very slight lope at idle. It sounds awesome. I haven't even heard other stangs that sound this good, and I get comments on it almost daily. It's slightly louder than stock, but doesn't annoy anyone.
BTW, for those of you who want to hear a good example of a fox-body stang's exhaust go to: http://www.mustanggt.org/
let me know what you think. Can you honestly say that you like any F-bodies exhaust more than that?
Chris</font>
I agree with you 100% I have the best sounding car I've ever heard. My dad had a 99 vette, and told me that he wished it sounded like that stang. My current car is a 5.0 with headers, off-road H, dual chamber flows, and a very slight lope at idle. It sounds awesome. I haven't even heard other stangs that sound this good, and I get comments on it almost daily. It's slightly louder than stock, but doesn't annoy anyone.
BTW, for those of you who want to hear a good example of a fox-body stang's exhaust go to: http://www.mustanggt.org/
let me know what you think. Can you honestly say that you like any F-bodies exhaust more than that?
Chris</font>
Other than the sound, I'm not sure how that relates, but oh well.
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i love my cobra.....sounds good starting it up....purrs...then screams when you romp on it......unlike my RS, it pulls to its 7000rpm redline.......it doesnt fall o its face at 4 grand......in fact....runs good for around town till 2500-3000, normal shift points for me.....romp on it in second gear form 20mph and it will take you to 80 without shifting at about 3500 some of the power kicks in then you press tha gas more and it just hits you when you get to 5000.........just a fun car to drive.....lowered...a couple of bolt ons and i have to put in a roll bar cause i run to quick at the 1/8th mile track here....
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BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORAL IMPROVES
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Did you get your car up to advertised hp? I definitely like the looks of your car better than the foxes. Also, I don't think I'd rather have any third gen motor over your dohc. I also hate that my motor stops so early in the rpm range. I can go up a little higher with my 305, but even still. I'm hoping to raise that some with a revised intake. Anyway, the gt's sohc is crap, plain and simple, but your engine is good. Now, if Ford could only fix the interior... Also, the newer cars are nice in that second gear takes you so far. I'm in fourth by somewhere around 80! I don't know exactly because I got my car and drove it for about two months. Then I decided I wanted to change out the exhaust and I got new plugs, wires. I took off the driver's side manifold, and most of the passenger side. The farthest back bolt is stuck--it's so tight. I've soaked it in liquid wrench and it hasn't come off yet. I don't know what I'm going to do. I have my headers and exhaust parts now, I just need to get that bolt out and the time to put it all together. Semester ends soon--I can't wait to drive my car again!
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