dereklicon

Dont race the LO3! Just dont!

midias

Sounds like a lot of people not trying. The 3.5 altimas are faster than 1st gen TSis and about 3 seconds faster in the 1/4 than a L03

dereklicon

Did a quick search on google and the nissan forum guys are saying upper 14s with a good driver for the 2005 3.5 altima.

I havent ran at the track with the LO3 yet but I have ran at the track before with different stuff and I am confident it is capable of lower 15's.

Tsi was trying, lol. and so was the Jetta. GLI jetta makes 200 HP and much less tq than a third gen LO3.

When I get a chance to make a video of a run on the track Ill post it

dmccain

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My wifes 2014 Altima will turn low 14s. Its pretty quick. Stock my L03 only mustered a low 16. I have a few mods now and 373 gears and it feels like a different animal but I would guess 15.5s After I get headers and a custom tune I plan to see what it will turn and I imagine low 15s then. BTW do not try the new single cab Ford pickup trucks. They have lighter bodies and the 5.0 screams.

dereklicon

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dmccain

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No doubt any car with a manual is much quicker than an auto with the same setup. I used to destroy Fox bodys with autos and turn right around and get beat by the 5 spd cars with my old auto TPI car. I agree your car should turn low 15s. Headers and exhaust are the best bolt on you can do with an L03. And I can tell you another thing.. 342s or 373s will really make a difference also. Its not a waste of time to put a lil gear in it. 342s would be better though my 373s are a lil steep in my opinion. My car seems to pull good to 4500rpm but maybe the open element cleaner and open hood scoop helps with that.

dereklicon

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Fast355

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Don't race a newer Titan either. I have had two of them and both of them ran ~15.00 with nothing more than an intake and muffler swap. The 2012 Crew Cab 2wd ran a best of 13.97 @ 96.20 with only an intake/ported throttle body/Hypertech tuner/Muffler swap/Secondary Catalyst delete. The 2014 Crew Cab 4x4 never saw a 1/4 mile track after it was moded, but was deep into the 13s when launched in 4 HI with a 75 hp shot of nitrous, custom tune, and headers. I had a 0-100 mph run recorded in a datalog in 12.2 seconds.

Fast355

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It will make a bigger difference putting a 1995 CPI 4.3 converter in the 700r4 than it will to regear the car. The CPI 4.3 converter stall about 2,400 rpm behind a stockish 305 and about 2,800 rpm behind a mildly cammed 350 Vortec. I had a production 1996 LT4 cam in my Vortec 350 in my Express van backed to the 4.3 Converter and 3.42 gears. With the PCM tuned and shifting at 5,500 rpm there are not many L03s that would keep up with it.

dereklicon

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dmccain

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Take it to the track and get a real idea how fast. Id say 15.3-15.5

Street Lethal

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This thread reminds me of that old "In Praise of Throttle Body Injection" website lol...

So long as your enjoying your third gen, that is what its all about...

dereklicon

Well I ran against a friends 1992 RS. Same car as mine, except it is a hard top and an automatic. 2.73 gears still, but it did have full exhaust like mine.

Needless to say I now see why the ill equipped RS gets such a bad rep. Its frightening how power sucking 2.73 gears are in tendem with the 700r4. My guess is that the gearing of the auto is not oriented for acceleration when compared to the WC T5.

He then let me drive it, and it was terribly underwhelming. I inspection the running condition of the engine, everything was fine....

The fact that I have the t5 makes a HUGE difference. I should have titled the post, "5speed lo3 vs the world" cause the difference is that much.

DynoDave43

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I'd have to agree. Having owner an L03/T5/3.08 car, and now an L03/700R4/2.73 car, the 5 speed and 3.08 are livelier.

I know a couple of folks here that have changed the 2.73s for 3.42s, and been VERY happy with the change.

plum92_camaro

My 92 had the LO3/T5 but a 3.42 posi diff. A few engine mods to bring out the potential of the stock 305 got me down to a 15.1. It was enough to be competitive with fox 5.0's and TPI cars.

Remind me, are the TSI talons the AWD or just FWD? My buddy had a 2g eclipse GST. From a dig it was very even, less than a tenth of a second (unless he had heat saturation then he would get slower!!!). But if we had ever done a roll he would have destroyed me. The LO3 has decent torque and 1st and 2nd gear are its best gears so I would always kill him off the line but when his tires hooked and the turbo spooled he'd start running up on me for a neck and neck finish.

dereklicon

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plum92_camaro

Another friend had a nearly stock 2g Eclipse GSX, same engine but manual and AWD like your buddy's talon. Never lined up with him but we did go to the strip together. He ran 14.6. The other buddy's GST's best time ever was 15.0. The AWD holeshot cut .4 seconds. Other than the AWD and the trans the cars were really same.

I hear ya with the LO3, Its a vicious cycle thinking about modifying one. You think "if I just do this.....it will really wake it up", then you realize that if you do that it will be restricted by something else, then you realize to properly modify the L03 you might as well build a 4" bore engine which isn't affordable at the time so you give up the idea for a while which is where the cycle begins all over. Haha.

dereklicon

Basically, heads/cam/carb swap probably make about 300 hp on the 305 but then, it wont really be a LO3 anymore will it lol

Fast355

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I was just reading through this old post and had a laugh at the old L03 vs World. I just thought I would share that I raced a 1990 L98 350 TPI Z/28 in my newer ride. I know a guy that was running his mouth about my "Jap" 4 door luxury sedan wasn't a performance car and he would kill my "V6". Why would I buy a POS V6 car, blah, blah, blah. Too bad he missed the M56-S badge on the trunk decklid or failed to realize it means I have a 11:1 DOHC 5.6L V8 rated at 420 hp that makes more like 450 hp(390 RWHP/405RWTQ on a Dynojet with a couple of small tweaks). I left the line in Drive in Sport Mode and KILLED him EVERYWHERE. Definately think twice before racing one of the Infiniti G or M cars even with the 330 HP V6. They have a 7 speed automatic with a 4.78:1 1st and takeoff QUICK. The V6s have run into the 13s and the V8s run into the 12s in STOCK form. Bought it used but these are from the day I took delivery.

zraffz

I'd race that in my little pink s10