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86 trans am tpi vs 97 mustang with police interceptor v8 swap

So I ran into a guy today in is nice blue Mustang you was playing with me on the street. At this time I did not do anything, When it became clear I dropped it down into 2nd gear from 40 miles an . Just to Grunt a little bit and flex the tpi torque. I then followed him to a gas station where I puuled over with him to talk. Told me his Mustang was a V6 and he pulled out a interceptors engine out of a Crown Vic though the heads on not sure on the type of heads, Cam shaft among or other basic mods exhaust and Ignition and 4.10 gears, he said he just got done weighing it today and it weighed 3000 pounds, I weigh-in at 3200 pounds.
So he said he would like to run me and I was like yep OK why not I have A 305. I have done some mods to my car a racing transmission and borla exhaust AS&M runners ported and polished up or intake, tune. So we were off I will post the videos he'd ended up putting up on a go pro and he caught it it is funny on the role race that we did that it the wind moved it just at the perfect timing I thought it was kind of funny. Go ahead and enjoy please leave comments.
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We did one race from a dig and one from a roll... the go pro was on the mustang.

i dont think i did to bad.

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I hope it works.
From a roll

from a dig

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Re: 86 trans am tpi vs 97 mustang with police interceptor v8 swap

Not bad. I pretty much abandoned dig racing entirely, I only roll race nowadays myself, so that roll race of yours kind of bothered me a tad. Those runners will only take you so far up top, what are your cam specs...

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Not surprised you pulled on him. We use to buy those police crown vics at auctions for about $200 and just thrash them. They were slow.
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its the stock peanut cam.
his is s XE cam I forgot the part number I can get it... heads are the stock ones that came with the engine. he also has 60,000 miles and im hitting 150,000 on my 305.
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Not bad. I pretty much abandoned dig racing entirely, I only roll race nowadays myself, so that roll race of yours kind of bothered me a tad. Those runners will only take you so far up top, what are your cam specs...

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why did the roll race bother you? I have plenty of room to grow, remember im still running the peanut cam his cam is aftermarket comp. the runners helped she does pull better up top,,, I also have a fueling issue. on the roll race I was running 10.6 afr so I still have room to grow there in the tune as well. I have new injectors to put in with a tune for them as well from john wayne. my injectors are leaking a little there the stockers so im hoping that will help as well.


I destroyed him from the dig lol.

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Re: 86 trans am tpi vs 97 mustang with police interceptor v8 swap

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why did the roll race bother you? I have plenty of room to grow, remember im still running the peanut cam his cam is aftermarket comp. the runners helped she does pull better up top,,, I also have a fueling issue. on the roll race I was running 10.6 afr so I still have room to grow there in the tune as well. I have new injectors to put in with a tune for them as well from john wayne. my injectors are leaking a little there the stockers so im hoping that will help as well.

I destroyed him from the dig lol.
Any roll race running a 305 bothers me when it loses. You definitely have room to grow though, and I kinda figured you were running the stock camshaft, or at least one that was essentially close to it. I was about to say that your 10.6 air/fuel ratio wasn't that bad, but then I realized you weren't running a turbo. I've gotten so used to boost I'm starting to expect it on other members' rides lol. As long as you had fun though that is all that matters, as that's what its all about. I honestly don't dig anymore, I only roll. I mean I'll have fun at a stoplight every now and then, but that's about it...

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ok so his cam is the XE262AH


a lot bigger than my peanut cam.

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Re: 86 trans am tpi vs 97 mustang with police interceptor v8 swap

Having owned a CVPI, I can say that speed was not a virtue. Sure, it was quick, but not f-body quick - unless your car is a real dog.

Mine was a 2007 w 250 hp, mostly due to revised airbox/inlet, etc. hp remained unchanged through the end of production in 2011.

Not really special other than dual exhaust and lack of engine manifold covering. No hood blanket, either. It was a cop car, with a bit of crudeness.
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Having owned a CVPI, I can say that speed was not a virtue. Sure, it was quick, but not f-body quick - unless your car is a real dog.

Mine was a 2007 w 250 hp, mostly due to revised airbox/inlet, etc. hp remained unchanged through the end of production in 2011.

Not really special other than dual exhaust and lack of engine manifold covering. No hood blanket, either. It was a cop car, with a bit of crudeness.

he swapped it in a mid to late 95+ model 5 spd mustang which I assume is a ton lighter, he weighed it earlier in the day and it weighed in at 3000lbs, last time I weighed my car was 3200 lbs. and not sure how much extra the cam gives him. the heads are the stock interceptor heads but I really don't know much on ford engines so.
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There is an approximate weight difference of 350 lbs between a 1997 v8 mustang and a CVPI. Not quite a ton...

What's an "interceptor head"? Anything special? Really special?
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Good job. I destroyed about a 94-95 Mustang GT auto around Christmas in my 2005 GMC short wheel base stepside 5.3L truck. He was so surprised. I wasn't.
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Re: 86 trans am tpi vs 97 mustang with police interceptor v8 swap

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So I ran into a guy today in is nice blue Mustang you was playing with me on the street. At this time I did not do anything, When it became clear I dropped it down into 2nd gear from 40 miles an . Just to Grunt a little bit and flex the tpi torque. I then followed him to a gas station where I puuled over with him to talk. Told me his Mustang was a V6 and he pulled out a interceptors engine out of a Crown Vic though the heads on not sure on the type of heads, Cam shaft among or other basic mods exhaust and Ignition and 4.10 gears, he said he just got done weighing it today and it weighed 3000 pounds, I weigh-in at 3200 pounds.
So he said he would like to run me and I was like yep OK why not I have A 305. I have done some mods to my car a racing transmission and borla exhaust AS&M runners ported and polished up or intake, tune. So we were off I will post the videos he'd ended up putting up on a go pro and he caught it it is funny on the role race that we did that it the wind moved it just at the perfect timing I thought it was kind of funny. Go ahead and enjoy please leave comments.
no such thing as an interceptor engine. Same engine, cops cars just have different suspension.
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Model 	1/4 Mile
1992 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor 	17.48
1993 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor 	17.29
1994 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor 	17.25
1995 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor 	17.32
1996 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor 	16.89
1997 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor 	17.63
2003 Ford Police Interceptor 	16.99
2004 Ford Police Interceptor "3:55" 	16.34
2004 Ford Police Interceptor "3:27" 	16.44
2005 Ford Police Interceptor "3:27" 	16.44
2006 Ford Police Interceptor "3:55" 	16.57
2006 Ford Police Interceptor "3:27" 	16.73
2007 Ford Police Interceptor "3:34" 	16.70
2008 Ford Police Interceptor "3:55" 	16.29
2008 Ford Police Interceptor "3:27" 	16.35
2009 Ford Police Interceptor "3:55" 	16.71
2009 Ford Police Interceptor "3:27" 	16.69
2010 Ford Police Interceptor "3:55" 	16.42
2010 Ford Police Interceptor "3:27" 	16.74
2011 Ford Police Interceptor "3:55" 	16.75
2011 Ford Police Interceptor "3:27" 	16.82
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Having owned a 2007 CVPI which I bought new, while it felt quick, it was big, heavy, and slow. Those are the facts.
Good chart above.
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it wasn't a crown vic... it was the engine of one in a 97 mustang... 2 completely different cars.
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it wasn't a crown vic... it was the engine of one in a 97 mustang... 2 completely different cars.
What is the weight of a 2007 Crown Vic?

And compare to the weight of a 1997 Mustang?

Now compare gear ratios. I'll wait...
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97 crown vic weighed 3800lbs and the 2007 crown vic weighed 4100 lbs
the gearing of the crown vics vary from 3.27 to 3.55


97 mustang gt stock weighs 3200-3400lbs (the one that was in the video was gutted and he had a weight ticket that showed 3050 lbs from a cat scale. just weighed it that night. he also had 4.10 gears with a 5 speed.)


so yes 2 different cars, weights, gears. . mustang would be faster and its modded.


my 86 Trans am weighd 3200 lbs. I also got it weighed.
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Re: 86 trans am tpi vs 97 mustang with police interceptor v8 swap

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Good job. I destroyed about a 94-95 Mustang GT auto around Christmas in my 2005 GMC short wheel base stepside 5.3L truck. He was so surprised. I wasn't.
is it a stock 5.3?
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Yea.. Well it's been tuned and came with 342s and limited slip differential. Its outran my car, Dodge trucks, its pretty strong but a diesel Chevy hurt my feelings.
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Yea.. Well it's been tuned and came with 342s and limited slip differential. Its outran my car, Dodge trucks, its pretty strong but a diesel Chevy hurt my feelings.
Must be picking on V6 or 4.7 Rams. I can say that even stock my 2006 Hemi quad cab was never outrun by a stockish 5.3. When the cam, converter and gears went into it, I played with the Saab version of the TBSS with a cammed 6.0L and he could not pull an inch on that truck. Never had a stock cammed 5.3 catch either of my Titans either.

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I duno wat the Dodges had except they were V8s. I agree the Titans are faster I have had one it outran everything but the gas station.
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