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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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Reassembling TPI on 87 TA formula

Hey guys, i just took apart my plenum and runners to replace my intake manifold gaskets... i put the whole thing back together, and in the end i ran out of wires, ive got one last connector on the throttle body on the very top, passenger side and im wondering whether it is an oil line or a coolant line? im assuming its a coolant line but i have no idea where it may lead to.. will it be ok if i start the car without connecting that one thing? O and by the way ive got a major oil leak, was hoping it was my intake manifold but its not, whats the likely place where its coming from, its intermittant, but when it DOES leak it pisses like crazy and leaves an entire line behind my car.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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Re: Reassembling TPI on 87 TA formula

Dont know about your open line question but for your oil leak its probably your rear main seal gone bad. Get under your car and find out if its leaking out between the tranny and the engine. Thats my guess at least. Could also be oil pan gasket but more likely rear main.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 01:00 AM
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Re: Reassembling TPI on 87 TA formula

Oil leak may be the oil pressure sensor. On the driver side next to the dizzy, small can with a wire/connector on top. Easy to replace.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 01:15 AM
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Re: Reassembling TPI on 87 TA formula

An easy way to find the leak is to clean the block where there is oil. You can buy some dye and put that into the system. The dye colors range in color, I found that the green dye works best for ID. You wil fins it with that, I would look at the rear main seal like mentioned. Jack uop the car and look right up in front of the torque convertor, you will see the seal. If its wet thats your problem.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 02:48 AM
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Re: Reassembling TPI on 87 TA formula

Ok i think ive got the engine back together properly, and that dye idea sounds like a really solid one.. i think im definately gonna take my car to a place with a ramp and look underneath first chance i get.

But in the mean time i tried to fire up my car it would send out some loud booms every once in a while... i think i messed up the timing, i tried using tape to mark the original position but i might have nudged it over a bit, or i might have accidentaly hooked up the plug wires in the wrong order, what is a good way to realign the whole system, so that i can make sure that whichever the case is i can get the ignition back to perfect timing / operation?
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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Re: Reassembling TPI on 87 TA formula

Foe timing you are going to have to pull the distributor back out. Turn the motor over by hand ( Its easier to find TDC) until the number one piston blows air out of the plug hole. Once there, Look at the balancer, if the zero mark on the balancer isnt lined up with the indication mark turn the motr over by hand until it is. drop the distributor back in, the oil pump drive shaft that the dist. falls on is very sensitive and can move easily. Once the distributor is in the car lock it down.The car will run, then all you have to do is set the timing to I beleive 8 degrees if stock. You will want to do this by revving the car to 3000 RPM, then set the timing to 8 degrees.
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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Re: Reassembling TPI on 87 TA formula

And do i get the timing to 8 degrees with the use of a timing light??
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 12:35 AM
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Re: Reassembling TPI on 87 TA formula

Yes once you have the base timing set, then you will use a timing light to advance the timing to 8 degrees.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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Re: Reassembling TPI on 87 TA formula

Ok so when the dist. is out and ive put the car to TDC the way youve described will the dist shaft only go in one way or will it have to be pointed at the # cylinder or anything like that? also ive found it very hard to put the dist. cap back on as the fuel rail seems to get in the way alot.
Ive never actually used a timing light before but i think i can borrow one... is the thing simple to use, is it something that can be explained on here
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 04:35 AM
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Re: Reassembling TPI on 87 TA formula

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Ok so when the dist. is out and ive put the car to TDC the way youve described will the dist shaft only go in one way or will it have to be pointed at the # cylinder or anything like that? also ive found it very hard to put the dist. cap back on as the fuel rail seems to get in the way alot.
Ive never actually used a timing light before but i think i can borrow one... is the thing simple to use, is it something that can be explained on here
Once the motor is at TDC the oil pump drive shaft will move and align itself. The distributor gear will fit into that oil pump drive shaft, once it is seated properly the distributor will go all the way in. With the cap off the dist, the rotor will point toward the #1 cylinder. Then lock it down, and turn the motor over by hand so the balancer mark and the timing mark are on zero.

A timing light is easy to use, you have the conductor wire that will clip on the number 1 spark plug wire, and then a power and growund wire that you put on the battery to give it power.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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Re: Reassembling TPI on 87 TA formula

Ok forgive me for my ignorance, ive never actually tried to mess with my timing before so ill ask it again, when i have that shaft out, it has a thin part and a fat part, when my cars at tdc with the balancer mark at 0 will that shaft tend to want to go into its proper location? then after i drop in the shaft (assuming its in its proper spot) will the way that the distributor cap is pointed change anything?

and when using the timing light, once im done i dont have the ecm interface to reset the trouble code, will that be alright?
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 01:11 AM
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Re: Reassembling TPI on 87 TA formula

The distributor gear if lined up properly with oil pump drive shaft it wil slide in perfectly. As long as the cap is on the distributor right you wont have a problem.

Yes that will be fine, the light wont hurt anything. You shouldnt get a light from timing the car.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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Re: Reassembling TPI on 87 TA formula

Ok thanks very much blown im gonna give it another try
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