Transmissions and Drivetrain Need help with your trans? Problems with your axle?

10-bolt rear end limit?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-21-2014, 04:39 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
89 Z/28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: Camaro
Engine: 305ci
Transmission: 700-R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
10-bolt rear end limit?

i wanted to know if i can still use the 10 bolt i currently have. 1st i'll start off by saying the 10-bolt will be fitted with moser 28-spline c-clip axle's, moser's performance girdle(cover) and ring and pinion(3.73) from richmond and an auburn pro series differential.Now the powerplant will be a 406ci making around 600hp, the car currently weighs 3400lbs with the stock 305 in it right now when i swap in the 406 i will be putting a tubular k-member & upper and lower a-arms plus a fiberglass hood so im hoping the weight will go down to around 3250-3300lbs. Now the car WILL be my DAILY DRIVER and i will be running slicks when at take it to the track every weekend. Just wondering if the 10-bolt with those upgrades will be able to handle that. any information is greatly appreciated you guys are the experts here
Old 03-21-2014, 04:57 PM
  #2  
Supreme Member
 
big gear head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,777
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: 10-bolt rear end limit?

First of all scrap the Auburn idea. It's junk and it will not work for long when doing burnouts. Go with the Eaton Posi, Eaton Truetrac, Torsen or Yukon Dura Grip. A Detroit Locker would be best for drag racing, but you might not like it for every day driving.

The 7.5 10 bolt will not hold up well with slicks and 600 HP. You will most likely break it and all of the money you spent on it will be wasted.
Old 03-21-2014, 07:00 PM
  #3  
Moderator

 
AlkyIROC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: 51°N 114°W, 3500'
Posts: 17,110
Likes: 0
Received 120 Likes on 101 Posts
Car: 87 IROC L98
Engine: 588 Alcohol BBC
Transmission: Powerglide
Axle/Gears: Ford 9"/31 spline spool/4.86
Re: 10-bolt rear end limit?

I ran a beefed up 10 bolt down into the low 11's before swapping it out for a 9". No matter how much money you invest into trying to make it better, the tiny ring and pinion teeth will still be the part that fails first. Mine didn't fail but every time I launched, there was a chance it could have failed. At the time, I was making around 500 hp to the wheels.

A big power upgrade isn't just about the engine, the rest of the driveline also needs to handle the extra power. If you're building enough power that the tiny stock diff isn't going to handle it, prepare to invest more money into a real diff that can. A 9" and 12 bolt are the most common but a Dana 60 is also available.

You can invest in one diff now or break the invested money of a 10 bolt then invest in a better diff later. No matter what you do, the 10 bolt will eventually fail. You're just rolling the dice as to when.
Old 03-21-2014, 07:40 PM
  #4  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
89 Z/28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: Camaro
Engine: 305ci
Transmission: 700-R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: 10-bolt rear end limit?

thanks for all the information guys.......What kind of rear what you recommend i use(im on a budget)....would it be easier for me to find a 12 bolt? dana for me is too expensive and can't really find any anywhere
Old 03-21-2014, 07:51 PM
  #5  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (20)
 
Orr89RocZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 25,749
Received 367 Likes on 296 Posts
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: Strange 12 bolt 3.42
Re: 10-bolt rear end limit?

I may be one of luckier people with 10 bolts. I've well into the 9's on a stock 00 trans am 10 bolt.
Been 10's on another with spray, 1.41 60 ft.

I say find a 4th gen version with a zexel torsen diff and 3.42 gears. Run it as is no upgrades because it would be a waste.

Autos with a converter shouldnt hurt it that bad. Save for a new rear.
Old 03-21-2014, 09:15 PM
  #6  
Supreme Member
 
big gear head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,777
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: 10-bolt rear end limit?

You are not going to find a 12 bolt, or any other factory built rear end that will fit. You are going to have to go to the after market for a good rear end upgrade. Moser Engineering, Strange and some others make bolt in rear ends in 9 inch, 12 bolt and 60 for the 3rd gen. Quick Performance probably has the lowest cost bolt in 9 inch.
Old 03-19-2017, 11:13 PM
  #7  
Member

 
Dscott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: whitby ontario
Posts: 300
Received 7 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 89 Iroc street car
Engine: Fitech vortec 400sbc/T5
Transmission: Also 69 Chevelle, Nascar chassis
Axle/Gears: 700hp roadrace track day car
Re: 10-bolt rear end limit?

Great info
Old 03-20-2017, 02:36 AM
  #8  
Supreme Member

 
Ron U.S.M.C.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Northern, CA
Posts: 4,482
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Car: 1989 Iroc-Z Camaro
Engine: TBI,5.0
Transmission: Automatic 700R4
Axle/Gears: Eaton Posi,3.42,LPW Ultimate Cover
Re: 10-bolt rear end limit?

Originally Posted by 89 Z/28
Now the powerplant will be a 406ci making around 600hp. I will be running slicks when at take it to the track every weekend.
10 Bolt = No Way

These are photos of the 10 Bolt ring and pinion next to the very popular Ford 9in. ring and pinion.

A lot of track cars including our Third Gens are using a modified version of the Ford 9in. in there cars and by looking at these photos you can see why.

By the way, I did "Up Grade" my 10 Bolt for my 5.0, automatic but its my DD and will never see a track or slicks.
Here's a link to the build thread. = https://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/t...de-photos.html






Old 03-20-2017, 08:28 AM
  #9  
Supreme Member
 
big gear head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,777
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: 10-bolt rear end limit?

Ron, this thread is almost exactly 3 years old and 89 Z/28 hasn't been on here for 2 years. Someone brought up an old thread again.
Old 03-23-2017, 04:08 AM
  #10  
Supreme Member

 
Ron U.S.M.C.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Northern, CA
Posts: 4,482
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Car: 1989 Iroc-Z Camaro
Engine: TBI,5.0
Transmission: Automatic 700R4
Axle/Gears: Eaton Posi,3.42,LPW Ultimate Cover
Re: 10-bolt rear end limit?

OK, sorry
Not paying attention again.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
hectre13
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
2
12-11-2023 08:14 AM
hectre13
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
7
08-26-2015 08:17 AM
AkDrifted
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
6
08-17-2015 07:45 PM
Jlanz55
Transmissions and Drivetrain
3
08-17-2015 07:15 AM
BlackBoulder
Suspension and Chassis
2
08-11-2015 11:15 PM



Quick Reply: 10-bolt rear end limit?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:12 PM.