#1 Get off TomP, your flame war was kinda pointless...

#2 Why didn't you go with a GN motor, I mean you seem to like the 3.8's...why not go for a motor that's already RWD,already been swapped in before AND A ****LOAD MORE POWER AND POTENTIAL? Just curious

 

the 3800 Series II motor can be mounted either FWD or RWD. same block for GPs & Firebirds.

 

ok, cool, that's one question out of the way, I still dont understand why he'd choice that setup unless he got it REALLY cheap...

 

1. as stated the blocks are the same. and there is alot less trouble swapping ina eapon powered 3.8 then all the turbo stuff, not to mention ALOT CHEAPER.

2. Tom got on my back first. I responded. I do not care for his arogence and critisim of others when he knows nothing about them. Also I have noticed that he is very negitive to others that think of ideas that people come up with for their cars modifacation.

And if memory serves me right, the 3800 Eaton makes close to 270(if not more stock- more with a 9 PSI pully) Hp with around 290-310 Trq. And this from a pure pretty striahgt-forward engine swap. And I am doing it for around $1100.
I have found factory 3.8 turbo motors, but for much, much more. And they did not include everything needed for the swap. IE motor mounts, trans, radiators, ect, ect.
I am getting everything save the engine mounts, and considering I have a V8 radiator I can use handy, and the fact that I can reuse my fatory 5 spped makes this 3800 Eaton powerplant alot more feasible, and alot cheaper.

So do not tell me to lay off one of the boards most negitive thinking person to other people "Ideas", tell him if he does not like it, fine, just shut the F*** up about it cause we do not want to hear it.

 

Well if you can do it that cheap then go for it...not to knock you but everyone will believe it when they see it..MUCH talk has gone on with turbo's,supercharges,motor swaps etc and no one has stepped up the plate...so just deal with some of the negative attitudes....

Good luck though,should be nice when it's done , I'm starting the rebuild on the TTA motor soon, heheh it's gonna be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet

 

I did a seach of your post's V6sucker. I was wondering where TomP "chewed" you out. Can you link me to the thread...thanks.

 

damn, caint a guy start any thread without someone trying to get it locked?

would a 4"-6" cowl induction hood provide enough clearance, or will the charger clear stock hood allready?

 

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=166748

 

Well, I am a firm beleiver that large cowl hoods look like... A**. Just my personal oppinion.

I have seen the eaton that is on top of the 3800, and it is only 4-6 inches tall, and considering I have a SBC TPI/MAF setup in my garage(for sale by the way) and it is taller then the eaton is, so clearance should be no problem.

EDIT: I am also hoping that I can keep the strut tower bar I have installed there. depending on the back side of the 23800's intake it 'SHOULD' clear since there is no distributor there.

 

I was thinking of sucking in air from the back of one(2"-4"), instead of having to do the tb U bend thingy.

 

I thought of that, but where to mount the filter? I am thinking that I will probly need to go an inch or two into that freash air duct to install that "U" bend for the intake.
Again I will not know for sure untill I have the engine test fitted in the car, It may very well be able to reverse the intake all togeather without any modifacation. Again, thats what the pics will be for.

 

i think a 6'' cowl would be illegal in most states...

 

take one of those flat K&Ns, or equiv, and modify so that it sits where the raised portion of the hood goes. make a box behind it to seal it off from engine bay heated air, & rthen into the tb.

Of course, since I have never really seen one of these cowl hoods up close I don't know how much room there is, so.......

 

Hate to bring this up again, but I gotta defend the man.. You've had what, like 50 posts here..and you presume to know Tom right off the bat? Look up some more...find the thousands upon thousands of posts he's made. Find the huge diagnostic charts he's typed up to help members out. Find TomP's famous tuneup. Find his multi-page step-by-step directions for fixes. You call him arrogant, negative, and criticising? Sorry man, but everyone has their bad days. Give the guy a break. He's done a hell of a lot more for everyone here than you have!

 

this post is not about tom. If you continue on this quest for tomp defense, I will almost garantee that it will get locked as well.

I have no doubt that he is book smart, but his people skills are left wanting in my book. Just about every Idea that someone has posted on something that they would like to do, of "would if they had the time & money" has been slammed by your so called 'do gooder'.
You call him what you want, and I will continue to call them as "I" see them. Not once has that name been mentioned in this thread , and for good cause, there IS NO NEED TO. I was asked a question or questions, and it was to me to answer them. So do the thread a favor and leave his name out-of-it

EDIT: Post count means nothing without anything meaningfull behind it. Granted he may have thousands upon thousans of posts, but just how many of them were him posting something off topic, not needed, not wanted, or something to lower the ideas and thoughts of a fellow member that came up with some thought that he didn't like and then subsequentially slammed the idea to make himself feel "big and all knowing"?

 

I've been on this board for quite some time and viewed many many many posts....he's a good guy, and someone that if I knew him I'd probably call him a friend.. I defend my friends. Especially since for the past few threads, it seems like Tom DOES have the people skills to know not to try to argue back. But, whatever you want to think dude. I know who's side the majority of this board is on.

 

:sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol:
The exact reason why I do not klike board like this. And before you even say it, I know I "CHOOSE" to come here, and if I don't like it, leave. Well, ok. See ya. I will post pics when the swap is done, proving that it was done. Other then that.... have fun.

 

I'm not saying get the hell off the board. Everyone is welcome here. As it should be. Like I said, I'm just defending a 'friend' who hasn't defended himself really. We all just need to chill out...everyone's been on a hair trigger here for the past 6 months or so..maybe longer.

No ill will towards you..I have no problems with you personally. Good luck on the swap, and post an @$$load of photos. I'd LOVE to see this...might make me think twice about having sold my sixer.

 

No I do not care for people attacking me, and that is exactly what Tomp did. Without provocation, and without merit.
That is something I tend not to tollerate, on any occasion, and any level.
As I said in the privious post, I will post pics when I am done with the swap, just to prove that it was done and that will be all. See ya in a couple months when the swap is done

 

Good luck again. And I hope you decide to stay on the boards. I hate to see decent members leave because of damn silly arguments.

 

i took a load of negativity with the turbo, and 3.4 swap idea...
so far i made the 3.4 swap... now i gotta make more power to the engine, and toss in the turbo set up i have planned hehe... that'll be fun... can't wait... it'll be a long while before that tho...

just hang in there...

 

yeah, to the hardcore carbed SBC guys turbo's are useless Shame I'll be low 11's getting 20mpg and they'll be stopping at every gas station to fill up

 

Actually, I got to thinking last night.
(And with my wifes input) She wants me to get rid of the Camaro.
I do not blame her. I am looking at several thousand dollars in repairs and parts over the next year, in an engine swap, disk brake install's and upgrades and many other parts.

I have decided to go full out on the Conquest's I will be buying later this week. For 3/4 the cost of the engine I can get 2 stage 4 heads for the TSi's, that will by themselves boost the 290 HP, to 350. And have change left over for a few smaller mods to get around it to around 400.
I have also decided to take part of the funds and get satilite internet service(DSL)
Though with the new tires going on the camaro tomarrow, I am hoping to get about 1K for it, and have already been offered that. The only thing stopping the camaro's immediate sale now is I want to make sure at least 1 of the TSi's are more then road worthy.

So I am going back to the TSi boards, and leaving this one for good.

 

Okay I read the post.
Its not really that bad. He stated what I would have said myself. Everyone talks, and no one ever does the turbo. He was stating that no one has done it, and probably no one will. Hes not trying to crush your dreams, but if I said I was going to buy a Ferrari for $500 tomorrow, I would hope someone would take me away from my disillusion.

I am not saying it is impossible, I am just saying its going to be hard to be the first to break that new ground.

 

ah well, good luck, see ya at the finish line

 

(laughs) And what's funny is, I wished you luck with your project. Go figure! You want people skills? I've helped TONS of people on thirdgen.org-- and not just in the V6 forum, either. You honestly need to relax. I've said it a million times before, especially regarding turbo swaps- "Prove me wrong, I'd love to see it done". If you're that fired up about this swap, then DO IT, and I'll apologize for rubbing you the wrong way (which I never intended to do).

I'm not "negative towards ideas and opinions of others", either. But when you see a thousand posts about "I want to turbo my car" or "I'm going to swap this motor in", and you don't hear of any results, or see any proof, you tend to disbelieve the outrageous claims that get made. It's for that very reason (outrageous claims) that people joke about this V6 board. The numbers are few here. You get 1 v8 "big talker" in 1000, the post doesn't get noticed. You get 1 v6 "big talker" in 50, and the post is very obvious.

I'd say about 99% of those posts were technical. If you want, go do a global search on my name in thirdgen.org and see how many off-topic messages you get. I don't go "slamming [ideas] to make [myself] feel 'big and all knowing'"- in fact, as regards your idea, I didn't slam it once. Go back and read that thread. Tell me where I said your idea was stupid, or wouldn't work, or was a waste of money, or wouldn't create enough horsepower to get out of it's own way. Show me!

So, if you don't sell the Camaro and abandon this project, and decide to start on it, I'll say it yet again: Good luck with it!

 

Took you long enough to defend yourself man! You were AWOL for a good couple days there. Was beginning to think you were dead! (Inside joke with two friends of mine. If any of us is absent for school any day, we automatically assume they're dead.)

 

In an unrelated issue, satellite and dsl connections are two entirely separate things....sorry.

 

eah your right, they are different, I have 2-3 times the down speed, and half the up speed. Though Sat is not that good for gaming cause of the link lags. However it excells at downloads and is more then capable of 700-UP Kbps, though upload is only around 90 Kbps average.

Fly, where are ya, I might just see ya and we can swap Turbo stories... LOL Real men beleive in Boost right? LOL... Well at least those that what to keep some real streetability along with MPG...

But as far as the camaro sticking around, I do not see it happening. Tires installed tomarrow, look at the Conquest's Thursday, and probly pick them up Friday, and if the kid still wants the camaro, it may go later next week after I run the good Conquest through its paces.


Though that engine would be great in a fiero...