What the *%#$ is wrong with my engine?
What the *%#$ is wrong with my engine?
Todayj, I, for some reason, lost to a friend's 2.8 Z24 Cavalier. I don't understand it. He just rebuilt some junk on his engine, so he says. What could be going wrong in my engine that's robbing me of power? Please, I need help, for the sake of my own sanity! I've done a ton of mods on my car, and as far as I know, he's done absolutely nothing, short of a bit of rebuild work. I'm gonna get a compression and timing check right away, but could anything else be going bad? TIA
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From: In a mint Third Gen!
Car: Red 87 IROC-Z28 T-Top
Engine: 5.7 Tuned Port Injection
Transmission: 700R4 Auto
Axle/Gears: BW 9-Bolt 3.27
What are your mods and have u adjusted the TV Cable recently??
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84 TRANS AM H.O.
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From: St. Louis, MO
Car: 85' Firebird (Project), 92' RS
Engine: 2.8L, LS1
Transmission: 700R4, 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Open , 10 Bolt (ukn)
well i was once beat by a Z24. I'm not sure what year or engine, but i think it might have been a 3.1. Anyway, i beat him through my firs gear, but when my car upshifted, his didn't and he continued to gain on me through his first. And when he hit second, he was gone, and i was standing still. I also had my 250lbs friend in the car, but that's besides the point. It was a sad day, but i think that car probably weighed less than me, and had the same/bigger engine. But once before i spanked some dude who had a Z24 and it was only him in the car. So, i'm not sure, depends. Maybe this guy's modded his car more than you, f-bodies aren't the only people that mod and race.
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the 85 firebird, the first firebird that doesn't burn out....
It eats the pavement!!!
KILL LIST: (SHORT BUT GROWING)
Dodge Daytona (think a 2.2),Honda Acorda (2.0L),2000 Camaro (3.8L),1992 Mustang (V6),1987 Firebird (2.8L),80's probe (4 banin'),90's malibu,90's 4 door Saturn, (wow, that was a slow ride, even slower than me.),91 Celica GT conv.,Acura Integra, 5speed DOHC 4 cylinder.
---came close----
1979 camaro (5.7),1981 camaro (5.7),1982 firebird (5.0) my tires spun, I coulda beat em!!!
,79 El Camino (350, lost by a door),96' Mustang, 3.8L stickshift. (caught him after my car downshifted.)
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the 85 firebird, the first firebird that doesn't burn out....
It eats the pavement!!!
KILL LIST: (SHORT BUT GROWING)
Dodge Daytona (think a 2.2),Honda Acorda (2.0L),2000 Camaro (3.8L),1992 Mustang (V6),1987 Firebird (2.8L),80's probe (4 banin'),90's malibu,90's 4 door Saturn, (wow, that was a slow ride, even slower than me.),91 Celica GT conv.,Acura Integra, 5speed DOHC 4 cylinder.
---came close----
1979 camaro (5.7),1981 camaro (5.7),1982 firebird (5.0) my tires spun, I coulda beat em!!!
,79 El Camino (350, lost by a door),96' Mustang, 3.8L stickshift. (caught him after my car downshifted.) Hey, someone who shares my pain....Yeah, this guy could have hopped his car up some...but I don't think he would have done much. He doesn't strike me as the tweaker type of person. I'm gonna adjust my TV cable, check my fuel press, adjust my IAC valve, and install a shift kit. Then I'll spank him good. Oh, yeah, and I'll do the next one solo. The girl I had with me is fairly light, but, still, weight is weight...Thanks for the thoughts...
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From: Sarasota FL
Car: 99 WS6 / 00 SS / 11 CTS-V / 13 300
Engine: LS1 / LS1 / LSA / 5.7 Hemi
Transmission: 4L60E / T-56 / 6L80E / W5A80
Axle/Gears: 3.23 / 3.42 Auburn / 3.23 / 2.62
With the mods you got, unfortunately, a Z24 Cavalier is still faster.
Cavalier Z24s stock were running mid to high 8s 0-60, where as we were around 10.5. There's no way your mods have knocked 2 seconds off your 0-60, and if his car was in good tune, he should've been able to beat you.
You may be asking why the Z24s were so much faster stock?? Consider that a Z24 has only 5 less peak hp, and it weighs in around 2700 lbs vs 3150 lbs, and you got the answer
Cavalier Z24s stock were running mid to high 8s 0-60, where as we were around 10.5. There's no way your mods have knocked 2 seconds off your 0-60, and if his car was in good tune, he should've been able to beat you.
You may be asking why the Z24s were so much faster stock?? Consider that a Z24 has only 5 less peak hp, and it weighs in around 2700 lbs vs 3150 lbs, and you got the answer
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From: Santa Rosa, CA
Car: '91 Formula
Engine: L98
Transmission: 700R4
Weight is exactly what I was going to say. If you have two cars with the same engine, and one is smaller, it will win. That's why I get spanked by the V6 24V Ford Probe and stupid **** like that.
Firebird, even if he beat you a firebird/cmaro always looks better then a Z24!
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91 RS Camaro
3.1L
Cat Back System, K&N filter,modified air box, Fastchip Stage 2, 160 thermo, Rapidfires and Bosch Wires, soon to come: Homemade Ram Air,and maybe power pulleys, 5 Air Horns
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91 RS Camaro
3.1L
Cat Back System, K&N filter,modified air box, Fastchip Stage 2, 160 thermo, Rapidfires and Bosch Wires, soon to come: Homemade Ram Air,and maybe power pulleys, 5 Air Horns
[This message has been edited by Garmer (edited October 12, 2000).]
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From: Sarasota FL
Car: 99 WS6 / 00 SS / 11 CTS-V / 13 300
Engine: LS1 / LS1 / LSA / 5.7 Hemi
Transmission: 4L60E / T-56 / 6L80E / W5A80
Axle/Gears: 3.23 / 3.42 Auburn / 3.23 / 2.62
Amen, Garmer 
If I wanted just speed, I woulda kept my dad's '91 Grand Am SE 4 door when I had the chance to buy it instead of the Camaro. It was loaded, and had the 180hp 2.3 litre H.O. Quad 4, and did 0-60 in 7.4 sec. Now THAT was fast
I ate a 5.0 GT on a backroad one night....thats how good the damn thing handled and accelerated. I miss it 

If I wanted just speed, I woulda kept my dad's '91 Grand Am SE 4 door when I had the chance to buy it instead of the Camaro. It was loaded, and had the 180hp 2.3 litre H.O. Quad 4, and did 0-60 in 7.4 sec. Now THAT was fast
I ate a 5.0 GT on a backroad one night....thats how good the damn thing handled and accelerated. I miss it 
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From: CT
Car: 1986 Camaro SC
Engine: 305 TPI Procharged D1SC
Transmission: Tremec TKO-600
Axle/Gears: Moser 12 Bolt 3.73 posi
Z24's are fast, they are light compared to camaros but not fast enough for me 
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86 Camaro with 88 305 LB9 converted to carb, edelbrock performer manifold, S/R Torquer Heads, Hedman Headers, Crane Compucam 2032 edelbrock cat-back, gutted cat, slp underdrive pulley, mallory ignition, 305 h.o dual snorkel air cleaner, hypertech thermomaster chip,160 degree thermo, and fan switch, 5-speed, 3.23 posi
95 Beretta Z26, 3100 V6, 4 Speed auto, stock

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86 Camaro with 88 305 LB9 converted to carb, edelbrock performer manifold, S/R Torquer Heads, Hedman Headers, Crane Compucam 2032 edelbrock cat-back, gutted cat, slp underdrive pulley, mallory ignition, 305 h.o dual snorkel air cleaner, hypertech thermomaster chip,160 degree thermo, and fan switch, 5-speed, 3.23 posi
95 Beretta Z26, 3100 V6, 4 Speed auto, stock
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