Super 60 Degree V6 site says a good mod for the engine would be to disconnect the TB coolant lines. My question is what is that and how do I do it? Thanks!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

the article is in the tech section.. Im not sure were tho...

 

Are you sure? I already looked in the tech section but couldn't find it...

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

Ok I think I found what you were talking about. But its for the TPI and the guy is talking about a whole other thing. Can someone help me out PLEASE!!!!!!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

ANYONE!!!!!!!!?????

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

ok easy to do
look under ur TB ull see 2 hoses coming down going to a little pipe...the 2 hoses off the pipe remove and discard..take a u shaped radiator hose and clamp it...block the open passages on the TB that were left over and ur done. I got the u shaped hose and clamps for 7 bucks.

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88 Firebird 2.8
MODS (either coming or on):
Flowmaster Cat Back, Random Technologies Cat, 3" intermediate pipe, Accel 8.8 wires, MSD Coil, MSD Ignition Module,MSD 6a, B&M Shifter, Transgo Shift Kit, Cold Air Induction, NEXT MOD: 5 speed...(torque convertor going so 5 speed a better idea) ..Then peeling and cracking paint..

 

Monkie, that's the right article. Just don't do the air-cooling method. Well, you could if you want


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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l) from http://www.f-body.net/mailbag/3rd/3rd_mailbag.html message boards

 

Whats the point of this mod? Thanks!!!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

well..since its water off the water pump itll obviously warm up...now more dense air (cooler air) can hold more gas in it...therefore colder air lets more gas in with it...by disconnecting those lines ur not having hot water warming the tb to lower intake temps

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88 Firebird 2.8
MODS (either coming or on):
Flowmaster Cat Back, Random Technologies Cat, 3" intermediate pipe, Accel 8.8 wires, MSD Coil, MSD Ignition Module,MSD 6a,Cold Air Induction, Current Mod:
t5 swap

 

Where did you get it from???? Thanks!!!!


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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

autozone..

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88 Firebird 2.8
MODS (either coming or on):
Flowmaster Cat Back, Random Technologies Cat, 3" intermediate pipe, Accel 8.8 wires, MSD Coil, MSD Ignition Module,MSD 6a,Cold Air Induction, Current Mod:
t5 swap

 

Good! Ill ride up to the one near my house tomorrow after school. Is the a specific size I should look for? Thanks alot!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

if their employees are pretty knowledge able....they'll know more/less...if not take one out to the parking lot and show them whats on there now so they can guesstimate on what the size is...

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88 Firebird 2.8
MODS (either coming or on):
Flowmaster Cat Back, Random Technologies Cat, 3" intermediate pipe, Accel 8.8 wires, MSD Coil, MSD Ignition Module,MSD 6a,Cold Air Induction, Current Mod:
t5 swap

 

I think it might've been 1/2 inch ID. My header hoses are 5/8" and 3/4", I think the TB lines were the next hose size down.


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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l) from http://www.f-body.net/mailbag/3rd/3rd_mailbag.html message boards

 

Didn't get to go to auto zone today. Car came out of the shop to late. So Im doing everything tomorrow. So what do I need from there? What do I ask for??? Thanks alot!!!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

Make sure your rengine is cold. My friend wanted to do this for me so i let him and the engine was still hot and he pulled the hose and the coolant was still under pressure and shot all over him and burnt the hell out of his hand

 

I will, Im not going to drive it tomorrow until the mod is done. I just need to know what I need from auto zone.

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

That u-shaped heater hose (probably 1/2 inch inside diameter), and two new clamps. I just bent a normal straight piece of heater hose in half; yes, it's almost crimped shut; no, no problems with it, after 3 1/2 years.


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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l) from http://www.f-body.net/mailbag/3rd/3rd_mailbag.html message boards
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Ok, got everything today and TRIED to do it. But came across some problems that I hope you guys can help me figure out. 1: It was a MAJOR bitch to get to my throttle body! 2: I couldn't get the damn clamps off of the hoses so I never even got the hoses off. and 3: when I took off the intake tube that goes onto the TB and tried and tried to get the clamps off. So I couldn't so then I tried to put the tube back onto the TB and oh my god was that ever the BIGGEST pain in the ****ing *** !!!!! So all I really need to know it how to get the clamps off. someone please help!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

Ok there is liek a little clip that you push toghter that will spread it apart

 

I saw those. Man I tried to do that cause I was trying to use my "common sense" and tried to push them together and I ****ing cut myself like hell and hurt my finger. Damn it sucked! Oh and to be able to put the tube back onto the TB I had to climb into the ****ing engine bay!!! Ill try to do it again saturday or sunday. Please tell me I dont have to take that damn tube off of the TB this time!!! anyone??? THanks!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

Ok heres exactly what i did...
1 wait for the engine to cool off my friend learnt that lesson...
2 get a needle nose or a really small plyers and grab the notch and move the tube up or if u cant do that take a plyers and twist it off the hose will be a pain to get off..
3 one its all off go from there. just make sure you put the clamps so if u ever hqvave to change the hose put them in a position so u can get to them easy.
Oh dont do the funnel thing i did that and the funnel was turing into a whistle and i thoght i screwed somethin up but i took the funnel off and the whistle sound went away

 

hmmmm whistle sound...Maybe someone would mistaken you for a SCed car??? What did you use to block off the place where the hoses went onto the TB? Thanks!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

just leave them open. or if u want u can pull that bottom part off i think

 

Ok, so all I have to do is take off the two hoses COMPLETELY and replace the 2 hoses with a u shaped hose and then clamp the 2 ends right???? Thanks!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

Yupp thats it

 

Kool, Im gonna try it in a couple of mins. Gotta eat first . Oh FastRS I hope Jegs will help ya out with the black out thing. That really sux. Thanks for all the help man!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

I might be wrong on this one, but the TB coolant lines could be important. Aren't they there to warm up the TB quickly? And wouldn't they do that as to prevent icing on the throttle plate (like carburetor icing for a FI car)? Seems to me the lines are important. Am I totally out in left field?
Vman

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1989 Camaro RS
2.8 V6
K&N's
700R4 tranny
Cragar Street Pro rims (old Series 30)
Pioneer DEH-P3000

1969 Camaro SC
350 HO from a Vette
Turbo 350 tranny
In the process of being restored

 

no..ur right...but for us few CALI boys we dont need to worry about it

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88 Firebird 2.8
MODS (either coming or on):
Flowmaster 80 series, Random Technologies Cat, 3" intermediate pipe, Accel 8.8 wires, MSD Coil, MSD Ignition Module,MSD 6A
Currently Working On:
t5 swap
Next to buy:
Slp dual cold air intake!

 

Vman, nobody knows the real reason, some say it's for emissions, some say it's to keep the TB from icing up. The TB gets warm anyway with the motor running, so that throws out both ideas. I've been running with a bypassed TB coolant reservior since 1997; never had the throttle ice up, and I've always passed emissions.


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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l) from http://www.f-body.net/mailbag/3rd/3rd_mailbag.html message boards
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Im about to do this. Please tell me you guys didnt do this by yourself! There is no way I will be able to do this alone. Im gettin my friend to help me out. Bout to go wish me luck! Any sugestions?

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

Ok i got the clamps loose but i cant get the damn hoses off. How do you get them off?


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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

i clamped vise grips on it then yanked like a bitch...! try that...or uhm...poke a hole through the hoses with a screwdriver, turn the screwdriver a bit then do the 'ol up down motion and it should come out like that...i had to do that once. if not..dunno

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88 Firebird 2.8
MODS (either coming or on):
Flowmaster 80 series, Random Technologies Cat, 3" intermediate pipe, Accel 8.8 wires, MSD Coil, MSD Ignition Module,MSD 6A
Currently Working On:
t5 swap
Next to buy:
Slp dual cold air intake!

 

holy chaos batman.. :P

alright, as far as hose ya dont need any, pick up a set of bypass caps, their in the HELP! section of your local parts house, part # 02252, pop them on in place of a hose, throw on a new clap, and presto.. as far as getting the old hose off, the easiest way is to take an exacto knife (disposable breakaway knifes) or a box cutter and slice the hose lengthwise where the fitting is under it, if you cut the whole way thru youll have no problem pulling it right off..

 

Well, my third shot at doing this was a failure. I got the clamp to slide down on one tube but the tube wouldnt come off but that wasnt the worst part. The left hose's top clamp was at an angle to where I would have had to take the radiator hose off in order to get the the calm fully. So I dunno if I will take another shot at this mod. Is it really worth all this trouble?? Thanks!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

dude just take a wire cutter like the one with the full blade i think they are called dikes im not sure and cut the hell out of that clamp just brake it since you will have 3 left and will only really need 2...

 

Wow dude, you're going through hell, eh? There's actually no reason to remove the hoses from the throttle body. You could cut those hoses in half with a blade, and then do as Scoob said, and remove the hoses from the water pump's pipe.

Then you can put the bypass hose across the water pump's pipe, and just leave those hoses hanging from the TB.

Don't those factory clamps suck?


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Hell yea they suck! I think Im gonna give it another shot tomorrow. Dont have school so I will have some time. I think Im gonna do like that other guy said and just cut the clamps with wire cutters. Im sure it will go much smoother this time around since you guys gave me some common sense ideas. Well wish me luck once more!! I will probably have more questions tomorrow so keep alert! hehe.


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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

They're only good for one thing- they never loosen. That's great for unaccessable spots (like installing a hose in place of the pulsator, inside the gas tank!), and for people that don't ever look under their hood- but bad for us. I always replace the factory clamps; in fact, I don't think I have one left on the car! Just make sure to double-check their tightness a day or so later!


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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l) from http://www.f-body.net/mailbag/3rd/3rd_mailbag.html message boards
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I did a tuneup on my frinds mazda and for the heatriser i guess it was there is a clamp on it that attaches to the intake hose well they have it in such a spot that you cant even get the SOB off and to put iot back on SUCKED. And his cap Was crackes and was full of rust and his rotor was melted

 

How did you get it off? I didnt get a chance to do it today. I went looking for some people that wanted to race me. And plus it was raining today. I did race a ford truck today for about 3 miles. I knew to guy so we just kinda ****ed around I could have taken him though cause I wasnt even trying and he was having a hard time keeping up. Glad no cops were around!



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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

We bent/broke it off and streched it out then when we put it abck on we bent it back

 

I've been following this post for awhile (longest 1 yet I think! ) and I gotta wonder, is it really worth it? Isn't it there for a reason? I don't mean to second guess any of you...just wondering how much value there is to messing around with it.

Also Tom, how cold does it normally get in NJ in the winter? Does it average around 35-40 on a regular basis?

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Jason E
'89 Camaro RS 2.8
Hypertech chip/K&N filters/Accel 8.8 wires/RapidFires
Eclipse CD and 100x4 amp/Boston plates and 6x9s
Alpine Alarm w/ Keyless entry
IROC tailights/tinted windows

 

I gotta agree with Jason. This is the longest post I think yet on our board. I FEEL SO SPECIAL!! No actually it just shows how stupid I am. I dont see how you guys can tell me its easy and simple to do. DAMN THIS MOD IS HARD! Those damn clamps. I dont know how many times they have pinched me and cut me trying to do this! But it better be worth it. I dont remember who told me to use the wire cutters but I dont see how I could use them because the clamps are so tightly clamped! I have to give it to GM when they make clamps and mean for them to be tight they do a DAMN GOOD JOB!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires

 

ok what 2 clamps are you having problmes with if worse comes to worse email me and ill give u my number to call me and ill wal u through it if i still had phonecards id call u but u can get it done when i first took them off to make more room to change my stat 2 yeas ago it took me 2 hrs to ge toff

 

my Email is Luniz2003@aol.com. Also the biggest post i remeber was the person who said they wanted to put a FORD 351 i think it was into there Camaro. who was that by the way

 

Can you actually feel anything different with this mod?
I'm doing a major tune up today and might consider doing this.It doesn't get to cold(hardly ever less then 15 degrees at night)here,so I'm not worried about it.Besides,the engine gives off enough heat under the hood as it is.

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[This message has been edited by Kevin S (edited November 07, 2000).]

 

I hear so much about this mod because of this post but to anyone who has done it. Do you feel a difference. One more thing Im from Kansas would it be too cold here to do it? One more thing how many posts until you become a "member" instead of a junior member?

 

you get a little better throtle resonse

 

Jason, yeah, it dips to around 35-40 at night, the days are around 50-60. Brrr...

I didn't notice a big difference when I did this, but it should help on a hot day. It's more of a "street" mod than a "track" mod.


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