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Old Mar 19, 2002 | 09:56 PM
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Will This Work

i was looking around the jegs.com site and found this exhaust cut out(part# 720-5424) that u can uncap from the inside with this cable, the only thing is, it says it accepts "2 o.d exhaust and i know our's stock is "2.5 o.d, i just wanna know if it will fit and how the cable would rig up, if you go to the jegs.com website you can get a better idea of the setup, i was wantin to get it and was just wantin to know if it would fit the pipes really. TIA
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Old Mar 19, 2002 | 10:09 PM
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"i know our's stock is "2.5 o.d"
i believe that stock is 2.25" OD = outside diameter sizing, ID = Inside diameter sizing... OD 2.5 fits over ID 2.5
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Old Mar 19, 2002 | 10:23 PM
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oh ok, i see...since the o.d on the cut out is "2 and the I.D on ours is 2.25 it'll just fit over it, duh i was thinking the opposite way, well since thats out the way, how would the cable hook up?
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by mAjInRS
oh ok, i see...since the o.d on the cut out is "2 and the I.D on ours is 2.25 it'll just fit over it, duh i was thinking the opposite way, well since thats out the way, how would the cable hook up?
wooo hold on...

our stock exhaust is 2.25" OD. That translates to roughly 2" ID Now that part is 2.5" OD which means its ROUGHLY 2.25 ID. So yes it SHOULD slip over. As far as mounting the cable.. under the dash where it can't be seen is a good idea considering its HIGHLY ILLEGAL! for street driven cars.
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 12:24 AM
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so if i put it on there would i have to put like a plate over it or something for inspection time and would i have to drill a hole in the floor or something, depending on how long the cable is?
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 11:56 AM
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so if i put it on there would i have to put like a plate over it or something for inspection time and would i have to drill a hole in the floor or something, depending on how long the cable is?
A plate over it? I would try to splice them into the tube where they are outta sight. But yes the cutting of the floor board is required. And all you really get with those is louder and loose performance. Our V6 NEEDS backpressure to make power. Hense the reason they are perfect for turbos. They crerate back pressure in limited amount.
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 07:10 PM
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hey mAjInRS,

i know a ton of people with cut-outs, majority 4th GEN incl. my 02 truck, and the practial way is to go is to have a shop weld on the cut-out w/o the cable setup.

mainly because it doesnt seal correctly. trust me, its as easy as boltin on 3 wingnuts and doesnt take more than a minute. ok, yeah you do have to get on your knees and elbows, but its worth the rumble you car puts out, hehe!!!!!

**oh, and word of warning, it is completely illegal, and shops wont smog your ride if they are strict!!!***
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 08:24 PM
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no offense camaro_hunter, but please explain to me how i GAINED throttle response and torque when i was just running my I pipe, with no muffler, if we LOSE performance with a cutout
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 09:37 PM
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no offense camaro_hunter, but please explain to me how i GAINED throttle response and torque when i was just running my I pipe, with no muffler, if we LOSE performance with a cutout
How was this performance "gain" measured?

If your just saying "it felt faster" sorry, that does not cut it with me. taking anything from behind the cat will do very little if anything, as it does not really increase anything but noise.
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 10:31 PM
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well, understand all i want it for is just the loudness, i just wanna be able to uncap it at a stop light or whatever so i can scare the ricers away without having to race and possibly embarass them, i know it could possibly hurt performance but i'm not gonna be racing with it uncapped, and yes i've seen the ones with the three wing nuts on it and i'd only buy that one if i was going to race with it uncapped at the track. Bottom line, would the mr. gasket one with the cable work without gettin too much flak for it?
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 10:36 PM
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so when i was driving along in 2nd with no muffler doin 40 and i floored it and literally felt my head snap back along with several other people, yet when i do it now i barely feel anything, that was all just in my head? disconnect your muffler. take your car for a hellride. come back and talk to me.
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 12:23 AM
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Why?
Scare them away?
Get some self respect!
Take on a Corvette or a 1969 Hemi Superbird.
Atleast if ya gonna waste gas, do it in style!
Wace a WICER
Scare them away, take 2.
Scare them away by atracking cops by uncorking your raspy sounding six.
Won't work.
Spend the effort elsewhere.
Honest.
Sides, these 6's sound like $hit minus exhaust system.
If ya waste the $$$, go all the way, weld it.
Drill hole. Run cable. Attach cable.
Plan on new exhaust system for smog if need smog cert.
Yes, it's been proven many times, that cars make stronger torque and more HP by using a muffler system.
Many track require race cars to run mufflers. Mufflers have improved & become a HP seeking science.
Camaro Hunter D is quite correct in his statement.
Yes, in the "old days" the thought of mufflerless exhaust was best HP.
No longer.
Top Fuel & Funny Car motors do not fit into this discussion.
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 12:52 AM
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hey ked is our car really faster tahn a 69 hemi / corvette or is that a joke??
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 01:06 AM
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IF YA GONNA RACE, RACE A REAL CAR
not wace a wicer
I consider Corvettes & 1969 Hemi Superbirds real cars.
When I had my 1966 Corvette in High Schol I was always asked to "race"
All I ever said was-
"Why? What do I have to prove? I already own the prize, my Corvette."
They got tired after awhile.
'Sides, they weren't into Slamons as I was, just straight line.
My sights were on Lemans, Watkins Glen, Lime Rock, Riverside.
There's were only Englishtown or braggin rights.
I really doubt if any of them ever had to down shift into a turn at 110MPH. I would have had to clean the passenger seat to often if I showed them how to do it. Or slide side ways, billowing white clouds of tires smoke, going from 50 (3rd) to near zero, using 2nd gear to break traction, then using first to gain speed again. That spot was my favorite backwards "S" turn.

When ya own a real car, you only need show up, to show them up.
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 01:12 AM
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lol... i can make my car go sideways <drift it> but im far from getiing white smoke .....

but ur right some ppl get scared and kinda astonished when we can drift the thirdgens....

my friend is actually pissed that i can drift my thirdgen and he cant do it in his nissan altima
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 01:18 AM
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*sigh* so ya'll are saying it would work, good gread grand, that's all i wanted to know, like i said i wasnt gonna race with it on, so perfomance isnt a factor, get that out of your head, this wasnt meant to be a slamming discussion, sure it sounds like **** if you have to hear it for a long time but when i just uncap it for a few seconds and rev it other people wouldnt really know the difference, besides the car nuts, you dont understand how many damn ricers are around here, it'd make u sick, it makes me sick, damn traitors.
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 01:23 AM
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Tell him to slide his car sideways OFF A CLIFF those things are UGLY!
The Nissan car designer thinks he's hot $hit, but his cars always look like $hit.
That new "z" thing sure is a perfect example.
Datsun stopped making decent looking cars with the 1970-72 240Z & the 1970-72 510.
I was so stunned I had Billowing PILES of white smoke, I turned around and did the same thing three times! In a row!
I was fortunate to live thru that.
I was all across road.
LUCKILY NO ONE ELSE EVER CAME AROUND THAT BEND THAT DAY!
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 01:45 AM
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lol.... to my surprise he tried the same curve i did the drift on and ended up understeering nearly into the curb....

and mAjInRS

the exhaust cutout on our car will sound bad... trust me...
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 09:11 AM
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I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE AROUND??????
HELL I LIVE WHERE THE DAMN FU(KING TREND STARTED!
Next door to my machinist is a Honda Hi Po Shop.
For real.
Like almost a complete Civic in Carbon fiber.
IT IS WAY COOL.
I just won't admit I put my effort into a "Honda".

YET, I personally know an Idiot (ME) will be spending mounds of CA$$H hopping up my 1972 Honda CB175 w/broken 200 engine (soon to get another engine! this current 175 is to slow!).
BUT Old Honda cycles are WAY WAY COOL!
I'll stop after I get another frame & title for free!!
My Honda CB 200 motorcycle is identical to a British Triumph street version racing bike, from 1969.
I want to replicate an old Honda Factory works racer next!
This motorcycle project will be WAY CHEAPER then recreating either my 1969 Tran Am Racing Camaro or 1956 Corvette, over modern drivetrain/frame. The 1956 Corvette will be cheapest to start, tho.
I have a 53-62 frame back east & I have a 56/57 passenger door, already in my garage!
Is there a cure for this?
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by Camaro_hunter_d
wooo hold on...

our stock exhaust is 2.25" OD. That translates to roughly 2" ID Now that part is 2.5" OD which means its ROUGHLY 2.25 ID. So yes it SHOULD slip over.
"Wooo", hold on, yes. 2.5" OD does not mean 2.25" ID! Geez. Where do we find these clowns?

First off, that exhaust pipe won't fit inside the cutout. Doesn't matter anyway, you won't hold that cutout to the pipes with clamps. It's a cast iron piece, and you'll need welding done.

Second off, a 2.25" OD pipe will not meet up with a 2" ID pipe. Go ahead, try it! The pipes will either butt together perfectly, with neither sliding inside the other, or the 2" ID pipe will slide around inside the 2.25" OD pipe. Want to know how to connect two 2.5" pipes together?

You buy a 2.5" OD pipe to go INSIDE a 2.5" ID inlet pipe. You make a 2.5" ID pipe by expanding the end of a 2.5" OD pipe. For instance, on the catalytic convertor, at the y-pipe end, you've got a y-pipe with a 2.5" OD going "inside" a catatylic-converter-inlet-pipe with 2.5" ID.

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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 01:38 PM
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"Wooo", hold on, yes. 2.5" OD does not mean 2.25" ID! Geez. Where do we find these clowns?

First off, that exhaust pipe won't fit inside the cutout. Doesn't matter anyway, you won't hold that cutout to the pipes with clamps. It's a cast iron piece, and you'll need welding done.

Second off, a 2.5" OD pipe will not meet up with a 2.25" ID pipe. Try it, the 2.25" ID pipe will slide around inside the 2.5" OD pipe. Know how to connect two 2.5" pipes together?

You buy a 2.5" OD pipe to go INSIDE a 2.5" ID pipe. Usually the 2.5" ID pipes are expanded on the end. For instance, on the catalytic convertor, at the y-pipe end, you've got a y-pipe with a 2.5" OD going "inside" a catatylic-converter-inlet-pipe with 2.5" ID.
Hey Dumb A$$ a 2.25 OD will slip right into a 2.5" OD tube... thats what I wrote if you could read...

And it really funny that a 1/4" difference(IE 2"-2 1/4") with the same wall thickness tube will ALWAYS slip into the next larger size. So who's the "clown"?....

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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 01:41 PM
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If you don't want your pipes to seal, fine.
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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"Seal" is different then "fit in to", by the way.
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by TomP
"Seal" is different then "fit in to", by the way.
thats what a welder is for I coulda swore...
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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Re: Will This Work

Originally posted by mAjInRS
i just wanna know if it will fit
Apparently we have different ideas of if something "fits".
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 02:49 PM
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If you want to half-a$$ it and then weld it, that will work. You could also weld a 1" pipe to fit a 10" steel sewer pipe if you had the time and stupidity, and that would be airtight too, that doesn't mean it's done right. Wouldn't it be easier to just do it right? TomP is right on how it is supposed to be done.
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