Look at these canards that are on the Grace Co camaro. If they ever come on the market I think I might have to get a set. In the two pics after you'll see a carbon fiber rear diffuser and an FRP contoured wing. I think these things are cool and I hope they plan on mass producing and selling them. Just thought I would post some pics to see if you guys liked them too.k bye. ™

the CF rear diffuser ™

last one. wing. ™

I like the diffuser, but the rest isn't really my style. I guess they could look good on the right car.

i dont like it

I don't know why everyone thinks this hood is the cat's a$$.
Personally I think it's ugly.

I don't think very many people really like cat's a$$es.

I think it is like a cat's a$$. If I have to look at it, then whatever. But I don't choose to look at it, because I don't like it.

Grow Up

All of it serves a function for what the car is used for. For a daily driver i would agree. The only thing non functional i see is the stock ground effects

i KNEW somone would get mad at that...hahaha

take it easy

Looks awsome

its alright.....but t-tops kinda throw me off on a "race"car.

that car looks really sweet. I like the hood and the rims.

the spoilers pushing it

looks like a caron fiber hatch maybe also and the spoiler is awsome but they should keep it stock height.

That car looks great! Its funny to see the peoples cars that complain they dont like it. Well most people dont like your car either. Nice to something finally different! Some people live in the 80's.

I hope that wasnt directed towards me.

i agree on keeping it stock height, but i think it's awesome they actually gave it a lip to make it functional instead of just for looks like the 91-92 Z's The height does throw it off maybe bigger pictures and a straight shot on the rear would give it a different profile. It could be somewhat of an illusion

Yeh the more I look at the spoiler I think it is stock height just the middle is taller.

I like it (some of it), but supprised because I've never seen those pics before. I thought I had seen all the Camaros from Japan, that one is very nice. Kinda weird since some of that stuff is very very similar to some of the stuff I'm having made for my car, mainly the rear diffuser. The front diffusers are not similar to the ones I'm having made, but the idea is similar. Kinda cool to see a pic of a completed set before I start fitting mine. I'm not a fan of the wing, but then again, I'm also not a fan of the stock 91-92 wing either. I like the lower style wings like the stock IROC one or the Hawks 5 incher (whale tail style).

As for the car itself, I wouldnt be name calling because I've never seen it in action. For all you know it could be pushing 1000hp. It looks well built from those pics, nice rollcage, definately aftermarket suspension oriented towards roadracing, and a nice set of wheels. Definately alot nicer than DanTheMan_smlk's car!!!

Wow...I like the canards, and the spoiler. And yes, looks like the hatch has some sort of plastic window.

These Japanese guys have some great ideas....especially that beautiful hood.

CrazyHawaiian, I'd like to know more about your custom pieces. Hows it going? What are you having made? And out of what? Sounds exciting...and expensive ™

Its still in the very early stages. I dont want to give away too much info on it, kind of my secret project. The general idea is to take the stock GFX and modify it a bit. I dont want to do something like take a different bumper and try to make it fit because I think it changes the look of the car too much. I really like how Camaros look so I want to stick to the same style, just have it more aggressive like a C5R compared to a C5. These parts I'm having made will be carbon fiber, but alot of it will be painted to match the body color. I'll be honest about it, this is mostly for appearance, I dont expect this stuff to make any sort of difference when going WOT for my applcation, though the posibility is there. I'm going to be taking alot of pics and giving specs on the build after all my exterior mods are done. So along with the modified front bumper, sideskirts, and rear bumper it'll also have the fenders, the doors, the gascap, the wing, and the hood all done. My goal is to make the car instantly recognisable as a 3rd gen Camaro, but then have the person second guess themselves because it looks so different from what they are used to seeing. And then of course there will be the nay sayers screaming steamed **** because its different, I'll just have to do a burnout for them

Interesting. Most of it looks somewhat functional, but interesting peices. With dive planes out front, I am really suprised to not see see a front splitter assmebly.

I would be very interested to see the underside of the car, a rear diffuser is not really of any function, without a full belly pan, and a way to create a ventury beween the ground and the cars underside. The diffuser acts as a way to help accelerate and smooth the airflow into the over the car airsteam. Without seeing more information on the design of the rest of the stuff, I don't know that those mods are very functional.

I really like the rear wing, it looks as though it fairly functionable (actualy airfoil shape, located in the air stream, etc.). Its function might explain the front dive planes, as a way to try to balance the car at speed.

Crazy -- You should hit me up on PM's or e-mail. We can compare notes on our projects, as I am currently working on aero stuff that is completely functional. (although I'm still in the design, and planning stages.)

it was directed towards me cause i have the red on red....oh well i didnt buy the car for the interior and it was hard enough to find a decent TPI camaro so i dont care what people think of the interior.

i think the black stuff on the front is ugly...and the spoiler too. I say what i want when you ask for an opinion

Dan didnt you have a calica with a carbon fiber hood and your calling this camaro R*ce.

I personally think that the car is done tastefully. The canards are a bit much for me, but the slight variance on the spoiler and the rear diffuser are subtle, yet look to achieve the owners goal of a more planted rear end at higher speeds. Some people don't like the look of that carbon fiber hood, but think about its functional purpose.. save weight and aid in engine cooling by allowing underhood air to escape. This isn't any ordinary street car, and I think the car pulls off everything fine.

One last thing.. take a look at what's done to that car. If you can't see that this car is a prime example of form follows function, then I don't know what to say.. I guess the weapon R bullsh!t some n00b tacks onto his cavalier is no different than the spoliers/canards/diffusers/whatever on any car in lemans, formula one, top fuel, etc. etc...

happen to have a link to the original pics? Id like to see the rear diffuser in more detail.

edit: found it.

http://www.grace-co.co.jp/3d_rcing_w...cing_wing.html

btw its celica...

my car didnt have graphics, a spoiler, or ground effects stuff.... The hood was about to be painted but then i got in to camaros and sold the celica. Hows your mazda?

You know what I meant. Mazda think I might sell it for a rex ill admit I like imports but nothing like american muscle.

wow, your doing exactly as i have dreamed in my mind! i want to make a more agressive looking front piece

rx7??? drooool, you can put 350's in those...ive seen 2 people so far who have done it (the 1st gen RX-7's)

the car looks crazy fast...i like it

Thirdgens guys...

what really needs to be done is to put a twin turbo second gen RX-7 rotary engine in a third gen . So fast yet light weight...those engines make 300hp stock. CAMAROS RULE!

Or how about a twin turbo LS1! Those come with like 300HP stock! Without the turbo's! And all aluminum! wow.....

Where is the puking smilee?

hmmmm i have this smiley drooool

it would be fast though, and SOOO much lighter than a v8...you can mod those engines to 700hp at least

Dan with the plan--------


Why dont you be the first to go out and do that. Oh and by the by -I didn't say anything against your interior of your car. Where did that come from.

ok, how about a jet engine

or not

Only if you attach it to your back. haha j/k

youre looking at a 1st gen rx7. Im talking about the twin turbo ones from 91 - 01(?) Here in the US they are stated as 276hp because japan had a voluntary hp limit so they rated the cars lower, but they really make around 300 hp

anyway, back to camaros

no

then show me what you are looking at

i found out there are 3 generations of rx7, i mean 2nd gen

The hood is badass, when one like it is avail i will buy, the spoiler corners stuck to the bumper just look silly, I dont care for that wing either, the stock 91-92 piece is just fine.

As for mr misguided dan...

The 3rd gen RX7 stock twin turbo engine was rated at 255 HP, so this is going to make a rocket ship out of a thirdgen ?

Oh we also wont take into account that it only was rated for 217 ft lbs of torque, thats over 100 ft lbs shy of an LT1 or an LS1.

Learn this fact, or argue with it and look stupid, that motor isnt going to make a heavy car fast, they dont make incredibile numbers, and only a few of them actually are quick, typically only in a lightweight car. We wont even get into how unreliable they are, or only making 217 ft lbs on 10 psi of boost.

So, aside from it costing more than an LT1, and being more trouble to put in, its down about 50 HP, 110 ft lbs, and requires 10 psi of boost to do it. Aside from this its rated for less fuel mileage, and in a lighter car, so you'd end up with even less mileage than when it was in an RX7, fwiw they were rated at 17/18 mpg city manual/auto and the LT1 powered RS a buddy is driving around is getting 21 MPG in the city, so 3 mpg more, with a lot more power, and gobs more torque.

Take your rotary is superior attitude elsewhere.

Think of the expanse of room you'd have in the f-body engine bay though! You could even see the floor when you open the hood

Mark.
(Sorry, must limit irrelevant posts...)

Yup, we're thinking along the same lines. Its going to look almost like the stock piece, just hang a little lower (no weirdo cutaways or curves).

Well Dan, if you cant get it locked by starting a **** name calling war, try to get it locked by changing the subject to something non thirdgen related. Great plan. At least get the facts straight ... 93+ RX7's are called FD's and the previous generation were called FC's.

Anyway, back on topic. I really like the stance in this shot:

i dont think it is superior, but i do think they make a lot of power for their size. But there are some really bad things about rotaries...first of all they are really unreliable especially with the apex seals and such. They pollute more than piston engines, and they have pretty bad gas milage. Putting one in a 3rd gen wouldnt be a good idea, i wasnt serious. I think RX7's are cool but this is tgo so i wont talk about that anymore.

and mr hawaiian, my goal in life is not to get topics locked...

sorry about getting carried away about the rotary stuff guys...

the stuff on the front of that blue camaro would look better painted

camaros rule