I went to the body section to wade threw a wt reduction thread all about handling.Well not really my cup of tea.so my question is how low can you get these cars without going to a tube frame something??. Glass hood,fenders,doors,deck lid,etc.I think this thread works here because a wt to hp ratio.Might have been done before,but still.............

My race weight is just over 3000 pounds and I weigh around 170 pounds. The car is pretty close to 2850 by itself but that number is only good to know how much weight is inside my trailer when I'm pulling it.

Getting a production car race weight, total weight sitting on the starting line, under 2800 pounds is possible but it seems the faster you go, the more weight you need to add such as roll cage etc. Cars like mine usually start adding weight to the front just to help keep the front of the car down. I've seen tube chassis cars with over 100 pounds of lead weight attached to the front of the frame.

A typical tube chassis car is around 2400 pounds.

I removed all impact bars, front, rear and doors. With lightweight carpet, 6 speed and 6 liter, sub frames, moser 12 bolt, tubular rear suspension, i am at 3150 without me in it.

We used to say as a rule of thumb that a reduction of 100lbs was equal to 10 hp and to put a car on a diet was alot cheaper to go faster than pay for 10 hp.

I thought you guys cars was around 3000 lbs.So with glass doors,deck,hood,fenders,could it be you could get the car down to like 2800 lbs??.I would guess you could.

Alky-yeah wheel stands are a waste of energy and often don't win races.You want the car to lunge forward and not up.The type of car I am thinking of isn't as hard core as you.Just a guy on a budget trying to go faster by being lighter.

Cars start out around 3500+/- actually, mine is still a heavy pig but I like my radio, heat and wipers, etc.

I am surprised of the wt of Third gens.We had yrs ago a 69 Balwin Motion and I didn't think it was that heavy.I honestly don't remember.

I was suprised when i weighed my car in. It weighs 2880 without me in it. It is alum headed small block. th350 with the baby 7.5" still in the rear

no front impact bar.
16 gallon plastic cell
no ac box or ac duct under dash
spohn torque arm and crossmember
bolt on fiberglass harwood hood

Full interior just missing head liner and rear seat bottoms. manual windows and locks.

I still want to loose a few pounds and get the battery moved to the rear.

How many lbs is the front sway bar worth and is it worth running without?

^^thought i saw your car for sale?

3300lbs with me. Car has full interior less hvac and radio. 9inch, no crash bar up front, all chromoly suspension and aftermarket brakes. I can't really find any other things to take out to make it lighter. Doors still have crash bars.

Another thing to take out is the bracket that holds the rear seats. Expect to spend a good amount of time drilling out it's 4 welds though. It weighs about 2 pounds.

I had a number on the window but talked myself out of it.

good call

Matt are you running a front sway bar. Whats my pros/cons?

no front sway bar on my car. weighs like 15lbs.

pros:
-15lbs shed from in front of front axle centerline
-allows the front suspension to articulate through it's entire range easily without bind
--^this allows maximum weight transfer

cons:
-sloppy feel on the street
--^that's about it

btw, we're hitting up sdr on saturday for S/ST, you should come out. weather is supposed to be nice.

I get to work on saturdays. Sucks. But i am going to hit up the hard tire race thing at twiggs friday night for fun. I dont think i will be able to get the car to even sort of hook on regular aspfalt. We will see