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johnyIROC 03-21-2005 11:36 PM

Custom spoiler...
 
Here's the custom spoiler I've been working on... I've got over 50 hours into it. I was originally going to get the hawks 5" spoiler but I decided it was too square for my liking. The spoiler I made is supposed to have a 70's ducktail kindof feel... with lines that are more sexy and curved.


http://www3.sympatico.ca/jatchison/spoiler02.jpg






In this pic the stock spoiler is sitting on the hatch to show the difference in height... the one I made actually gets up to 6" in the middle.
http://www3.sympatico.ca/jatchison/spoiler04.jpg




Ignore the tail lights... these are just old ones I used for position.
http://www3.sympatico.ca/jatchison/spoiler10.jpg







I am not expecting everyone to like it but it came out exactly how I wanted it.

Gr89RS 03-22-2005 12:08 AM

Very nice craftsmanship I like it!! Get some paint on that sucker!!:thumbsup:

johnyIROC 03-22-2005 12:14 AM


Originally posted by Gr89RS
Very nice craftsmanship I like it!! Get some paint on that sucker!!:thumbsup:


Thanks man... the car also has a token fiberglass cowl hood (much like the cervini) to complement the nascar style ducktail.


This is the engine bay of the car...
http://www3.sympatico.ca/jatchison/engine2.jpg


The entire car is almost ready to be painted the same 3 stage candy as the engine bay (PPG Sunset Red). Its also got 17X8 and 17X10 boyds... and more suspension than engine. (also that holley has since been replaced with a 650 mighty demon)

Gr89RS 03-22-2005 12:17 AM

Sounds red hot!!When will it be finished so I can add to my desktop wallpaper collection??

johnyIROC 03-22-2005 12:19 AM


Originally posted by Gr89RS
Sounds red hot!!When will it be finished so I can add to my desktop wallpaper collection??

The spoiler was one of the last things to get it ready for paint... we are aiming for April 1st to paint but we are about 1 week off schedule right now.... and I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be with it going to paint on april fools day :D

ssxmac 03-22-2005 12:21 AM

personally i like the hawks 5 inch better, its square and flows with the rest of the car better imo. However, i've got to complement you on your work, it looks very good and is obviousally going to be one of a kind.

-chillen

johnyIROC 03-22-2005 12:24 AM


Originally posted by ssxmac
personally i like the hawks 5 inch better, its square and flows with the rest of the car better imo. However, i've got to complement you on your work, it looks very good and is obviousally going to be one of a kind.

-chillen



I expect alot people will probably feel this way... as the perception is that thirdgens are "boxy cars" but truth be told every surface has some ammount of curvature to it. I always liked the way the 70's camaros had the ducktail spoiler kick right up ala NASCAR.... and thats what I wanted on my car.

Here are the two for comparison:

http://www3.sympatico.ca/jatchison/hawks1.jpg

http://www3.sympatico.ca/jatchison/spoiler02.jpg

jocww 03-22-2005 02:38 AM

how much to make me one of those.:D

Vae_Victus 03-22-2005 02:47 AM

Thats a sick spoiler...much nicer than the original. Good work. I also like what you've done to the engine bay....awsome.:thumbsup:

Btw...what is that on your strut tower? Cant tell by the pic. Is it for reinforcing? I wanna reinforce mine on my '89 camaro but not sure how to do it. Just wondering....either way you got a sick ride man...keep up the work.:thumbsup:

irocbirdbuilder 03-22-2005 03:17 AM


Originally posted by johnyIROC
I expect alot people will probably feel this way... as the perception is that thirdgens are "boxy cars" but truth be told every surface has some ammount of curvature to it. I always liked the way the 70's camaros had the ducktail spoiler kick right up ala NASCAR.... and thats what I wanted on my car.

Here are the two for comparison:

http://www3.sympatico.ca/jatchison/hawks1.jpg

http://www3.sympatico.ca/jatchison/spoiler02.jpg

Wow that was weird i didnt read before i looked at teh picture, i was liek wow he's got the same color lumina van and suburban, wait thats my car lol.

Looks good, i think it curves up a tad to much but it is different so i'm in!:thumbsup:

I wouldtn set your paint date to solid, mine changed every week till i ended up being about two months behind rollign it into paint, had it ready than would find something i wanted to change:doh:

Man, that teal car looks pretty sweet, looks better now that it has nice paint than in that pic:D

Spdfrk1990 03-22-2005 03:38 AM

Doesnt the 70's spoiler also curve in in the back also i have one at home ill have to look at it im sure it does.

Spdfrk1990 03-22-2005 03:44 AM

Like this heres an original. If someone could make one just like that but for a thirdgen would look pretty sweet I agree i always thought the hawks spoiler looked a lil to flat.
http://i9.ebayimg.com/03/i/03/60/52/92_12_sb.JPG

irocbirdbuilder 03-22-2005 03:47 AM

I think he's going more for ealry 80's stlye, i love the look of that one but we have a 81Z so i'm kinda biased

theSteve 03-22-2005 03:56 AM

dude, that's amazing.

really really nice work.

18inchboyds 03-22-2005 06:29 AM

that looks great i love it , Your car is gonna look great , i cant wait to see it .

CrazyHawaiian 03-22-2005 08:21 AM

First off, good job it looks great! Nice work! And I totally agree about the car having curves even though everyone considers them boxy. I'm more of a fan of the whaletail types of spoilers, but still really nice.

johnyIROC 03-22-2005 08:46 AM


Originally posted by irocbirdbuilder
Wow that was weird i didnt read before i looked at teh picture, i was liek wow he's got the same color lumina van and suburban, wait thats my car lol.

Looks good, i think it curves up a tad to much but it is different so i'm in!:thumbsup:

I wouldtn set your paint date to solid, mine changed every week till i ended up being about two months behind rollign it into paint, had it ready than would find something i wanted to change:doh:

Man, that teal car looks pretty sweet, looks better now that it has nice paint than in that pic:D



Thanks so much for all of the complements and encouragement. It means alot! I really thought I was going to get alot of hate from people who are currently running the hawks spoiler... the hawks spoiler does look cool too. What colour did you paint your car?

I didn't make the spoiler with intent to reproduce but if alot of people end up liking it I will in the future contact Token Fiberglass here in Canada and see if they would be interested in molding it. They are the ones who made my hood and did a great job.

85_ZED28 03-22-2005 10:01 AM

That looks pretty cool, good job :thumbsup:

Kandied91z 03-22-2005 12:39 PM

that engine bay has been in paint for how long....?

paint that thing already.

:D

kammi10 03-22-2005 12:55 PM


Originally posted by Kandied91z
that engine bay has been in paint for how long....?

paint that thing already.

:D

exactly. get that thing in paint. i want to see what it looks liek with the same wheels on it as mine. glad to hear its finally gettin close

ChevyKen 03-22-2005 01:07 PM

Nice custom job! Looking forward to see it all completed.
Did you make it from scratch, or did you customize another spoiler?

;)
Ken

MetalliCamaroRS 03-22-2005 02:12 PM

Not sure if I like it or not, but you did do an awesome job with it. That will definitely be a one of a kind touch, I can't wait to see it all done and painted. Nice work :thumbsup:

Camaroguy18 03-22-2005 02:52 PM

wow mad props, Id probably put that on my car instead of my hawks one, just because it's different :) ...also can wait to see the paint on the car....any pics of that color in daylight?

badandy247 03-23-2005 12:01 AM

wow you've pregressed as much on your car as i have since i was last hanging around on these boards :D

i changed my mind, i'm just collecting parts for mine i haven't really made it anywhere yet

beautiful work johny cant wait to see it done

johnyIROC 03-23-2005 08:19 PM

Here's another pic that really shows the shape of it from the back.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/jatchison/spoiler09.jpg

johnyIROC 03-23-2005 08:28 PM


Originally posted by Vae_Victus
Thats a sick spoiler...much nicer than the original. Good work. I also like what you've done to the engine bay....awsome.:thumbsup:

Btw...what is that on your strut tower? Cant tell by the pic. Is it for reinforcing? I wanna reinforce mine on my '89 camaro but not sure how to do it. Just wondering....either way you got a sick ride man...keep up the work.:thumbsup:


They are aluminum spacers used to give the struts more travel when the car is on full slam (weight jacks on 4 corners)

They also have built in camber/caster adjusting screws for going from road course to auto X.

Here's a pic:

http://www3.sympatico.ca/jatchison/spacers2.JPG

The tabs are welded to the strut tower.

johnyIROC 03-23-2005 08:37 PM


Originally posted by ChevyKen
Nice custom job! Looking forward to see it all completed.
Did you make it from scratch, or did you customize another spoiler?

;)
Ken


Here's the basic procedure

1 - cut down an '87 spoiler so there is nothing left except for the mounting hardware

2 - make a loaf of 2-part polyurethane foam

3 - glue the loaf to whats left of the 87 spoiler with "Gyp" (fiberglass resin mixed with shredded strands)

4 - hand carve the foam to the desired shape

5 - once the shape is pretty good tune it up a bit further with polyurethane body filler

6 - wrap the entire thing in 3 layers of fiberglass mat and resin

7 - blocksand until you bleed

8 - blocksand some more

9 - spray entire spoiler with high-build primer, blocksand and repeat

I used the same process for the three pieces.... blocksanding is the hardest part.

OutLaw305 03-23-2005 11:20 PM

you wouldnt happen to have any pics of the process would you?

Camaroguy18 03-23-2005 11:26 PM

how about those spacers? Did you fab them or get them somehwere. Im looking for something to help expand travel, but dont want to pay the outragous price for the custom ones from Hawks

johnyIROC 03-23-2005 11:34 PM


Originally posted by Camaroguy18
how about those spacers? Did you fab them or get them somehwere. Im looking for something to help expand travel, but dont want to pay the outragous price for the custom ones from Hawks


My father is a tool & die maker by trade.... he has amazing fabrication skills and he made the spacers. He also made the following:

-custom lower control arm relocation brackets
-custom adjustable tubular panhard rod
-custom roll cage
-custom SFCs (they go through the floor)
-custom weight jacks

We are doing the project together. Here's a link to the project journal on hotrodders.com.... there are alot of things we haven't got around to making updates for... but it shows some of it:

http://hotrodders.com/forums/journal...age=5&reverse=

johnyIROC 03-23-2005 11:40 PM


Originally posted by OutLaw305
you wouldnt happen to have any pics of the process would you?

Sorry... I had planned on fully documenting the process with pics but after I got into it I realized I had bitten off more than I could chew and was no longer concerned with snapping pictures. I have a couple pics of the mold I made to cook the foam loaf in.... and some of the foam loaf.... I think I actually have a pic of the spoiler on the car when it was made of foam but I have no idea where it is since I recently formatted my computer and all that stuff was burned onto CD and put away somewhere.

OutLaw305 03-24-2005 12:33 AM

welp, if you find em ... put em up !

john5.7 87Iroc 03-24-2005 01:31 PM

That is sweet!!!!! I have always wanted someone to make a spoiler that was more ducktail -like, like that. I had thought about buying the 4thgen spolier that looks similar and trying to mod it to fit my car. But now that Im learning how easy it is to make one from scratch like you did, I may give it a try, cause that looks totally kickass now that I actually get to see this idea on a thirdgen.

redraif 03-24-2005 02:26 PM

nice work! I'm really impressed! you make it sound so easy :D

johnyIROC 03-24-2005 08:44 PM


Originally posted by redraif
nice work! I'm really impressed! you make it sound so easy :D

I don't want to give the impression that this is a project you could knock out in a weekend or something.... it certainly is a huge ammount of work... definitely more than I was bargaining for but anyone with a resonable amount of patience and some degree of artistic skill would be able to make one of these.

srdynamics1 03-28-2005 05:36 PM

Nice- I like the slope much better than the Hawks 5"

JeffW 03-28-2005 05:47 PM

:goodidea: :thumbsup:

nice job i like it very original, can;t wait to see it all painted it will lok great i'm sure

jeff

Megaracerx2 03-28-2005 05:49 PM

http://uploadyourimages.com/img/210638bling.gif

82knightrider 03-29-2005 06:54 AM

awsome:yup:

Mark A Shields 04-01-2005 09:36 PM

gotta say the hawks "squarish" one matches the lines of a 3rd gen camaro better, where as the 2nd gen TA one doesn't as much.

a whole car shot would let me give a better overall opinion though

SC82TA 04-02-2005 03:37 AM

I think it looks awsome and very well made. I think it absolutely goes with the lines of the car, the squre Hawk's one while nice, just seemt oo plain Jane. I think our cars definitely have curves and this is just enough curve too look good. :thumbsup:

devianb 04-08-2005 11:35 AM

thats a neat idea, good work on it as well.

f355bird 04-08-2005 10:37 PM

I love it simply awesome on the whole car. Im wanting to do a second gen style rear spoiler too. Mines going to be a one off piece too. I like how u gave it more shape and more of a lip. Its a plus having a mechanically inlined dad isnt it. My dad is a electrical engineer. Hes really precise on everything and fabricates a lot of stuff for me. Cant wait to see your car after it gets painted.:thumbsup:

Anth's Iroc 04-09-2005 01:16 AM

Id be very interested in someone making that spoiler if the price is decent..............

Diabolical 04-10-2005 10:59 PM

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that spoiler looks a lot like something i was going to try to make for my trans am. after a while of unsuccessful searching for this rare 88 firebird special appearance package spoiler, i was going to try to make one. just never got around to it.

bj350hp 04-11-2005 05:41 AM

Ok so when can i buy one of those LOL. That thing is sweet id put that on my camaro.. Good work man

Gr89RS 04-11-2005 06:44 PM

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You mean like this one:D

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aaron7 04-11-2005 07:45 PM

Wow, I love the color in the engine bay!! Can't wait to see it all painted.

I as well am partial to the boxy look of our cars, but that does look good. Can't wait to see it done!


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