convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 2 Attachment(s) Hi guys, Well I have a 84 sport coupe 305. And I want to put the 90-92 Z28 ground effects. And Ive seen threads about putting the newer ground effects on 82-84 camaros. And I would like to know exactly what I need to get. One big question that I had was, i know the camaros with ground effect have that front spoiler under the engine to divert air to the engine to cool it off, and with out it, it will over heat. I belive my car doesnt have that, or at least the same kind. Also how will my turn signal lights fit? And I want the 90s Z28 ground effects, not the 85-89 o ground effect. I keep asking around school how much all the ground effects will cost from a junk yard will cost, but no one knows. Anyone have any idea how much everything i need will cost? I ideally want to paint it all white again. One reason i want to convert it is because some jackass hit my car when i was parked at walmart. i have to cops looking at the tapes, but i want to kill someone! This is my camaro i want to put the ground effects on: Attachment 409075 The damage: Attachment 409076 |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 hey there it ll be pretty easy to put newer gfx on ur car but u wont beable to reuse ur bumper turn signal light and for the side rocker molding there is a bracket that mounts to the side of the car just below the door to bolt the rocker molding to which u can grab off a car from the junkyard or maybe make ur own brackets, as for cost its all depends i guess on shape of the parts and where u go, i have a 82 z28 that im looking at putting the newer style ground effects and i found a guy selling everything i need for 700 bucks, but on year one site they go for like 1200-up just gotta shop around. good luck |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by krzyz
(Post 4618691)
hey there it ll be pretty easy to put newer gfx on ur car but u wont beable to reuse ur bumper turn signal light and for the side rocker molding there is a bracket that mounts to the side of the car just below the door to bolt the rocker molding to which u can grab off a car from the junkyard or maybe make ur own brackets, as for cost its all depends i guess on shape of the parts and where u go, i have a 82 z28 that im looking at putting the newer style ground effects and i found a guy selling everything i need for 700 bucks, but on year one site they go for like 1200-up just gotta shop around. good luck Oh ya, when i went to school today my instructor saw my car when we where in lab, and he really liked it, and saw the spot where some jackass pulled a hit and run at walmart. so he got out his buffer and buffed out alot of the mark! |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 Will I need to replace my front fenders when i convert? and what about that front spoiler that directs air to the engine for cooling? does anyone no what spoiler im talking about? |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 should look bomb ;P i dont think the ground effects will run you 700 bucks though... that seems a bit steep |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 1 Attachment(s)
Originally Posted by Louis_84
(Post 4618246)
Hi guys, Well I have a 84 sport coupe 305. And I want to put the 90-92 Z28 ground effects. And Ive seen threads about putting the newer ground effects on 82-84 camaros. And I would like to know exactly what I need to get. One big question that I had was, i know the camaros with ground effect have that front spoiler under the engine to divert air to the engine to cool it off, and with out it, it will over heat. I belive my car doesnt have that, or at least the same kind. Also how will my turn signal lights fit? And I want the 90s Z28 ground effects, not the 85-89 o ground effect. I keep asking around school how much all the ground effects will cost from a junk yard will cost, but no one knows. Anyone have any idea how much everything i need will cost? I ideally want to paint it all white again. One reason i want to convert it is because some jackass hit my car when i was parked at walmart. i have to cops looking at the tapes, but i want to kill someone! This is my camaro i want to put the ground effects on: http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/k...ueen23/Car.jpg The damage: http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/k...xqueen23/2.jpg Is this the style you want? Attachment 407877 Then you are gonna need: 85-92 Front bumper cover with grill and turn signals 91-92 Front chin spoiler 91-92 Pair Side rocker ground effects 91-92 Pair door insert ground effects 91-92 Rear bumper cover 91-92 Pair Rear Quarter ground effects Prices would be a bit high for those parts, Front Bumper covers are around $85-$120, Chins are $95-$150, Rockers are $75-$100 each, Door ground effects are $35-$75 each, Rear Bumper cover $75-$125, and Quarter ground effects around $25-$60 each. So yea it will be a good chunk of change and thats not including shipping. Where are you located? Oneida? I can help you out and get these things for cheap and probably all for under $200 if you are in Oneida IL. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by Carlos773
(Post 4638875)
The ground effects are either 85-90 which is the ones without the air scoops. 91-92 is with them. Turn signals are different and come with the front end since its a new style from your 84. Also that damage does not look bad, Did you try giving it a good scrubbing and see if some if not all will come off? It seems like a very and is a very easy fix. Is this the style you want? http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...802_110134.jpg Then you are gonna need: 85-92 Front bumper cover with grill and turn signals 91-92 Front chin spoiler 91-92 Pair Side rocker ground effects 91-92 Pair door insert ground effects 91-92 Rear bumper cover 91-92 Pair Rear Quarter ground effects Prices would be a bit high for those parts, Front Bumper covers are around $85-$120, Chins are $95-$150, Rockers are $75-$100 each, Door ground effects are $35-$75 each, Rear Bumper cover $75-$125, and Quarter ground effects around $25-$60 each. So yea it will be a good chunk of change and thats not including shipping. Where are you located? Oneida? I can help you out and get these things for cheap and probably all for under $200 if you are in Oneida IL. Yes that is the exact ground effects i want. lol no i lived in Oneida WI until i was 18, and now im living in so cal. I dont have money now, if its not to bad of price i may be able to afford the gfx in october or maybe even december. but i need a job too lol. Btw i buffed out like 98% of the damage, there is only 2 small spots where the paint of gone, i just never took a pic of it. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 dont, please just dont. If you want an 90's z then go buy an 90's z28. atleast go for period correct ground effects if you want to do this. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by iroc stangs
(Post 4639789)
dont, please just dont. If you want an 90's z then go buy an 90's z28. atleast go for period correct ground effects if you want to do this. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by iroc stangs
(Post 4639789)
dont, please just dont. If you want an 90's z then go buy an 90's z28. atleast go for period correct ground effects if you want to do this. I personally would like one, but i cant just give up on my baby. its a very good starting point when it comes to third gens. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 Its your car, do it if you want. Alot of people do this and I like it. To me once you start upgrading the vehicle, it does not matter anymore if its a Z28, Iroc or RS. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 its hard to explain, to me, i think its just not right to do it. Its like trying to make it an diffrent car. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by Carlos773
(Post 4639931)
Its your car, do it if you want. Alot of people do this and I like it. To me once you start upgrading the vehicle, it does not matter anymore if its a Z28, Iroc or RS. One thing i wanna do is bondo over the rs or z28 logo on the gfx. cause i dont want people to think that its something that its not. lol maybe ill come up with my logo to put there later. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by iroc stangs
(Post 4639950)
its hard to explain, to me, i think its just not right to do it. Its like trying to make it an diffrent car. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by Louis_84
(Post 4639955)
lol i plan on doing it anyway. I cant wait. One thing i wanna do is bondo over the rs or z28 logo on the gfx. cause i dont want people to think that its something that its not. lol maybe ill come up with my logo to put there later. Label it as an RS. Rs is basically the SC. If you insist in filling in the gap, just use a fiberglass repair kit to do it. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 I looked and found all the emblems at Hawks . Only one set of RS and they are Gold on eBay . You can give them a call and ask for whatever your looking for. Here's the link to the RS. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-92...Q5fAccessories |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 Delete. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by B-Bomb
(Post 4639974)
thats because you ARE making it a different car, mind you, it's not like hes attempting to take his 84 rs and pawn it off as a z28, hes taking parts which are able to fit on his car and making it more visually appealing. but what do u guys think of me bondoing over the logo? maybe if i ever save up like 15 grand ill go to the hennessy school in texas and write hennessy over it, lol and ill have like the only hennessy third gen lol jk |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by ronusmcmma
(Post 4640243)
I looked and found all the emblems at Hawks . Only one set of RS and they are Gold . You can give them a call and ask for whatever your looking for. Here's the link to the RS. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-92...Q5fAccessories and i kinda think making it look like there was never a logo there is kinda unique. or a custom logo would be kool too. maybe a "SC" for sport coupe, or something else that ill think of later. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by Carlos773
(Post 4639995)
Label it as an RS. Rs is basically the SC. If you insist in filling in the gap, just use a fiberglass repair kit to do it. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 It will hold better, and also as for emblems, They made some that say ''Camaro'', try looking at the exterior for sale section and see if anyone has em for sale. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 3 Attachment(s) Hey man. Do what you like. It's not like your trying to pass it off for something that it's not. You just want it to be more visually appealing. I was in the same boat. I also have an '84sc camaro that the previous owner customized the front bumper and added Z/28 ground effects. I didn't like the custom sc bumper, so I just recently changed it to an '86 Iroc bumper. To me (once it's painted) it will look much better. Mine has NO Z/28 emblems on it. It may look like one, but it's not trying to be passed off as one. Keep in mind that you don't have to buy everything at once, just get what you can afford and save the parts until you have the whole set and then have fun. Here's mine before and now. Attachment 407823 Attachment 407824 Attachment 407825 |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by Coolwheels84
(Post 4640866)
Hey man. Do what you like. It's not like your trying to pass it off for something that it's not. You just want it to be more visually appealing. I was in the same boat. I also have an '84sc camaro that the previous owner customized the front bumper and added Z/28 ground effects. I didn't like the custom sc bumper, so I just recently changed it to an '86 Iroc bumper. To me (once it's painted) it will look much better. Mine has NO Z/28 emblems on it. It may look like one, but it's not trying to be passed off as one. Keep in mind that you don't have to buy everything at once, just get what you can afford and save the parts until you have the whole set and then have fun. Here's mine before and now. http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/a...ycamaro005.jpg http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/a...obumper007.jpg http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/a...bumper2004.jpg |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 ...you really don't see many clean sport coupes, let alone an 82-84... ...that thing would look perfect with some clean white/black 5-spokes. awesome car, as long as you keep the quality as it stands now, it'll look great no matter what. jealous. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 In case you were still wondering about the air deflector that mounts under the front of the car, yes you will need it. It's called an air dam and it mounts on the bottom of the radiator support its pretty vital that you have one of these because even with the grill you wont get enough air flow to the radiator. My friend has a 92 rs v6 that was overheating all the time at highway speed but not in town. Found an air dam bolted it on and the problem was solved. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 pretty soon this is all you'll see. all except the early ones and SCs. I mean I like it, I have it... but still. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by Tobias05
(Post 4641867)
...you really don't see many clean sport coupes, let alone an 82-84... ...that thing would look perfect with some clean white/black 5-spokes. awesome car, as long as you keep the quality as it stands now, it'll look great no matter what. jealous. I kinda want to but some black corvette c5 rims on it someday tho. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by 92 Camaro
(Post 4641948)
pretty soon this is all you'll see. all except the early ones and SCs. I mean I like it, I have it... but still. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by Louis_84
(Post 4642022)
what do u mnean? |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 also i was wondering if i need to replace my front fenders? |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 I was never a fan of sport coupes until I saw mw66nova's car. I'm still not a fan, but that car is jaw-dropping. It's all about the stance. If it has the right stance any car can work. But he painted the vents and buckets black too which helps a lot to make it look pretty menacing. http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...1_644444_n.jpg Ive seen that car with multiple hoods, multiple wheels, with and without spoilers, etc... it just always looks good - it's clean, but he put a lot of time into getting it to looks right and it shows. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 If you are still looking for some gfx, check with thirdgenranch.com. They have amazingly low prices and are supposed to be really pleasant to do bussiness with. I just purchased a set of the 85-90 gfx, which included both side rocker panels, both door pieces and both quarter panel pieces for a total of about $165, including shipping. Check with them, they might have some of the ones your looking for, though their inventory changes frequently so you'll have to check back often. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by Louis_84
(Post 4645975)
also i was wondering if i need to replace my front fenders? |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by InfernalVortex
(Post 4646400)
I was never a fan of sport coupes until I saw mw66nova's car. I'm still not a fan, but that car is jaw-dropping. It's all about the stance. If it has the right stance any car can work. But he painted the vents and buckets black too which helps a lot to make it look pretty menacing. http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...1_644444_n.jpg Ive seen that car with multiple hoods, multiple wheels, with and without spoilers, etc... it just always looks good - it's clean, but he put a lot of time into getting it to looks right and it shows. his car is impressive. Im not talking **** about his car, but for me...i dont like the headlight buckets painted black and the grill vents painted black on sport coupes. and i personally like the 82-84 SCs more than the later ones. but maybe its just cause i own an 84 lol As far as stance, i do agree...to a point. One thing i like about my car is that the wheels are flush with the body. its helps ALOT imo. But it needs to be lowered lol. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 Oh also i was jsut thinking about paint. would it be be better if i got all the parts before they go on the car? or after all the gfx are on the car? |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 1 Attachment(s) |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by camarokracker
(Post 4652575)
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f6...icofcamaro.jpg Stay sport coupe.... there aint many of us left.....lol ...you guys always have to rub matt's car in our faces huh? lol |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by Tobias05
(Post 4654464)
interesting! ...you guys always have to rub matt's car in our faces huh? lol |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by camarokracker
(Post 4652575)
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f6...icofcamaro.jpg Stay sport coupe.... there aint many of us left.....lol |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by InfernalVortex
(Post 4654741)
Is that yours? That thing is gorgeous! |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 gorgeous car camarokracker! i love that you've stuck with the flat hood too. i wish i could keep a flathood on my car...unfortunately the motor is too tall :( |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by Tobias05
(Post 4654464)
...you guys always have to rub matt's car in our faces huh? lol |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 Ground effects don't make the car faster. Most thirdgens have them, the lack of GFX is what makes the Sport Coupe unique. Adding GFX will just make the car look like every other boring RS. Stick with the stripper look and spend the money making the car faster. |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28 i can steer u in the right direction with this most ground effects are very interchangable 82-89 is the same body just decked out different looks like ur gonna need all the ground fx and front bumper skin automotix.com or ebay are good places to go to for the fx u can find all the body parts u need there |
Re: convert from 84 sport coupe to 90s z28
Originally Posted by Louis_84
(Post 4639955)
lol i plan on doing it anyway. I cant wait. One thing i wanna do is bondo over the rs or z28 logo on the gfx. cause i dont want people to think that its something that its not. lol maybe ill come up with my logo to put there later. |
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