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JTNKTZ 02-04-2010 10:40 PM

Converting to Carb - Holley 650 DP 6498?
 
I can get this carb for 60 bucks shipped to my house but it may need rebuild. Is this a decent carb to start off with? I have a post 87 350 block so I will be getting the 2704 performer intake and dizzy. I just want something that will give me a little power and easy to tune etc. I am just looking to get into the low 13's. Nothing too big.

I guess it came out of a 1967-71 Plymouth?

Cross referencing says that it's the same as the 4165 holley? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AE...n/?prefilter=0

antsZRS 02-04-2010 10:53 PM

Re: Converting to Carb - Holley 650 DP 6498?
 
what is dizzy?

JTNKTZ 02-04-2010 10:59 PM

Re: Converting to Carb - Holley 650 DP 6498?
 

Originally Posted by antsZRS (Post 4425061)
what is dizzy?

Distributor. I don't know what kind, just collecting parts practically hahaha.

d4nk 02-04-2010 11:02 PM

Re: Converting to Carb - Holley 650 DP 6498?
 
yup 4165 650cfm.

Why not go with the rpm air gap?

JTNKTZ 02-04-2010 11:06 PM

Re: Converting to Carb - Holley 650 DP 6498?
 

Originally Posted by d4nk (Post 4425068)
yup 4165 650cfm.

Why not go with the rpm air gap?

50 bucks a good deal?

Which is better? the air gap or performer? Much of a difference? If so what is the difference?

d4nk 02-04-2010 11:16 PM

Re: Converting to Carb - Holley 650 DP 6498?
 
Not a bad deal but you will still probably have to drop another $50 on a rebuild kit for it.

The performer manifold's operating range is idle-5500rpm
the rpm air gap is 1500-6500rpm

the air gap has a gap under the runners for air to flow under and allow for cooler air or something like that. I would guess that they have a little longer runner.

JTNKTZ 02-04-2010 11:18 PM

Re: Converting to Carb - Holley 650 DP 6498?
 

Originally Posted by d4nk (Post 4425083)
Not a bad deal but you will still probably have to drop another $50 on a rebuild kit for it.

The performer manifold's operating range is idle-5500rpm
the rpm air gap is 1500-6500rpm

the air gap has a gap under the runners for air to flow under and allow for cooler air or something like that. I would guess that they have a little longer runner.

Well I don't plan on over working my engine. I normally shift at 5k cause I am unsure what my redline is lol. So the performer would have more of a range that I use am I wrong?

I'm still learning bare with me :P

d4nk 02-04-2010 11:24 PM

Re: Converting to Carb - Holley 650 DP 6498?
 
Yea the performer would be fine for ya.

However the 4165 is a spreadbore and single inlet. :\

JTNKTZ 02-04-2010 11:37 PM

Re: Converting to Carb - Holley 650 DP 6498?
 

Originally Posted by d4nk (Post 4425097)
Yea the performer would be fine for ya.

However the 4165 is a spreadbore and single inlet. :\

What does this mean? Single inlet as in only 1 fuel line to the carb?
Whats spreadbore?

d4nk 02-04-2010 11:41 PM

Re: Converting to Carb - Holley 650 DP 6498?
 
Square bore- The 4 barrel carb's front and rear throttle plates are the same size.

Spread bore- The carb's rear throttle plates are larger diameter (like a GM Quadrajet or Chrysler Thermoquad)

http://www.hotrodders.com/gallery/da...pread_bore.JPG

JTNKTZ 02-04-2010 11:45 PM

Re: Converting to Carb - Holley 650 DP 6498?
 

Originally Posted by d4nk (Post 4425119)
Square bore- The 4 barrel carb's front and rear throttle plates are the same size.

Spread bore- The carb's rear throttle plates are larger diameter (like a GM Quadrajet or Chrysler Thermoquad)

http://www.hotrodders.com/gallery/da...pread_bore.JPG

The performer says spread or square bore so I don't see the problem. Are spread bores bad?
If so in what way?
Would I have a pretty decent combo with the performer and this Holley 650 DP?

d4nk 02-04-2010 11:50 PM

Re: Converting to Carb - Holley 650 DP 6498?
 
No sorry its late here I just noticed the 4165 was spread bore.

The rpm air gap is for a square bore. Personally if it was me I would try to find a holley carb 4777 (650cfm double pumper) along with the 7501 edelbrock.

JTNKTZ 02-04-2010 11:57 PM

Re: Converting to Carb - Holley 650 DP 6498?
 

Originally Posted by d4nk (Post 4425129)
No sorry its late here I just noticed the 4165 was spread bore.

The rpm air gap is for a square bore. Personally if it was me I would try to find a holley carb 4777 (650cfm double pumper) along with the 7501 edelbrock.

Alright, I am not completely ready to convert yet. I still need to convert transmission to Standard haha. But it'll be next thing I think.

Thanks for all your help though! Will be bookmarking this for future reference :P

SLEEPER 86 02-08-2010 11:34 AM

Re: Converting to Carb - Holley 650 DP 6498?
 
rule of thumb (though not set in stone) auto trans - vac. sec standard = D.P.
you also have to figure in driving habits. if you have a heavy foot, you better have gas $$$ if you get a D. P.!


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