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omegan 03-19-2024 05:51 PM

Cooling fan
 
1991 350 tpi / when i took out the car from winter storage i noticed that the coolingfan on the passenger side turns on as soon as i turn on the ignition.
Everything is original and untouched. Ac doesnt work because it needs charge. Any ideas what could be the problem? Havent tested anything yet but will try switching too the relay that controls the fan on the drivers side. Sorry about the spelling. I am from sweden.
/ Thanks. Per

LiquidBlue 03-20-2024 01:37 PM

Re: Cooling fan
 
I think it is designed to do that when something fails, but I forget what will fail to cause that. perhaps a sensor came unplugged. maybe something to do with a/c, but just turn a/c request off at control panel, and see if it still turns on right away.

omegan 03-21-2024 05:44 AM

Re: Cooling fan
 
I have now tried switching the relays fan1 and fan 2, and turned a/c request off at control panel.i have also disconnected the switch on the condenser. The fan still runns as soon as i turn on the ignition. If i understand things right the tempsensor on the passengerside in the block also controls the fan. I will try disconnecting it when i can get the car up on the lift. How do i measure the sender? Resistans givs a certain temp i think?

omegan 03-21-2024 09:35 AM

Re: Cooling fan
 
Would be nice if someone had a picture or partnumber of the the tempswitch on the passenger side of the block.

Tom 400 CFI 03-21-2024 10:51 AM

Re: Cooling fan
 
I don't think that there is a temp switch or sensor in the block. There is one in the front of the intake, and one or maybe two, in the cylinder heads. You don't need a lift to get to any of them.

In some model years, a Check engine light on will trigger the ECM to command the fan on all the time.

vinny R 03-21-2024 12:44 PM

Re: Cooling fan
 

Originally Posted by omegan (Post 6527842)
Would be nice if someone had a picture or partnumber of the the tempswitch on the passenger side of the block.

It looks like this
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...7313af53a4.jpg

If you can, you should order this one from hawks
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...b0ba3de70f.jpg

You don't need a lift, just a jack and stands will do and you will see it from underneath, coming out of the cylinder head just in front of the starter

vinny R 03-21-2024 12:51 PM

Re: Cooling fan
 
IIRC these work on wax melting to somehow complete the ground circut of the fan. Not sure if there is a resistor test for that. You should be able to test it by turning the ignition on so that pass fan runs, of course do this with the car cold. While it's running pull the lead off the temp switch. If the fan stops your switch is grounding all the time and is bad.

omegan 03-21-2024 03:46 PM

Re: Cooling fan
 
Thanks for your help.
/ Per

omegan 03-22-2024 06:51 AM

Re: Cooling fan
 
Solved !!
Pulled the lead off the temp switch and the fan stopped. New temp switch ordered. :thanks:

/ Per

Tom 400 CFI 03-22-2024 08:51 AM

Re: Cooling fan
 
Nice! No jack stands needed, either, right?


Originally Posted by vinny R (Post 6527857)
....you will see it from underneath, coming out of the cylinder head just in front of the starter

Pretty sure that's the knock sensor, not a temp sensor.

omegan 03-22-2024 11:21 AM

Re: Cooling fan
 
I actually have a lift in my garage. So all i needed was the time.:thumbsup:

vinny R 03-22-2024 01:55 PM

Re: Cooling fan
 

Originally Posted by Tom 400 CFI (Post 6527902)
Nice! No jack stands needed, either, right?

Originally Posted by vinny R
....you will see it from underneath, coming out of the cylinder head just in front of the starter

Pretty sure that's the knock sensor, not a temp sensor.

The knock sensor is in the block and looks different than the temp sensor one I pictured.

Tom 400 CFI 03-22-2024 05:54 PM

Re: Cooling fan
 
I agree. But I also think that any sensor in the head is pretty easily accessible from under the hood. YMMV:thumbsup:


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