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ben73 12-02-2005 02:08 PM

ALDL with Tunerpro and '8625
 
As much as I have used TunerPro, I have never been successful in getting the ALDL part to work.
I downloaded a definition from moates.net, and I think that is the problem. I can connect, but all I get is the error count rocketing up. I don't want to create my own definition, but maybe I'll have to....
Has anyone ever datalogged this PCM with TunerPro?

Ben.

HaulnA$$ 12-02-2005 03:33 PM

While I haven't dataloged the '8625 with TunerProRT, I have been datalogging the '6395 and '7427 PCM's since TunerProRT came out. There is an error in the datastream definition (A217) in the aldlstuff.zip file. The mode 1 command (datastream request)was wrong. It needs to be F4, 56, 01 instead of F4, 57, 01. Looking at the "8625 .ads file on moates.net, it appears to have the same error in it. You might try that. There should be no problem datalogging that PCM as it is nearly identical to the '7427 and '6395. HTH

ben73 12-02-2005 03:59 PM

Thanks for the tip! I tried that, and it then wouldn't even connect.. I'll have to dig deeper.. I don't know alot about aldl comms and the 'modes'..

honken 12-03-2005 04:43 PM

It looks like its the same stream as the 6395-7427 ecm
Looks like all off this engines with 4L60E hase the 217 ads.
The ads 217 is OD217 engine v1_0.ads in moates.net.

The 219-220 ads its for the 4L80 trans and man

DATA STREAM A217
PCM-6 WITH 4L60E TRANSMISSION
ENGINE USAGE:
L03 5.0L 94 VIN = H C,K,G
L05 5.7L 94 VIN = K C,K,G
L35 4.3L 94 VIN = W S,T,M,L
LB4 4.3L 94 VIN = Z G,M,L,S,T,C,K
* L03 TBI 5.0L 95 VIN=H C,K,G
* L05 TBI 5.7L 95 VIN=K C,K,G
* L35 CPI 4.3L 95 VIN=W S,T,M,L
* LB4 TBI 4.3L 95 VIN=Z G,M,L,S,T,C,K

DATA STREAM A218
PCM-6 WITH 4L60E TRANSMISSION
The 4L60E transmission can be used with the following engines
TCM USAGE:
L03 TBI 5.0L 94 VIN = H C,K,G
L05 TBI 5.7L 94 VIN = K C,K,G
L35 CPI 4.3L 94 VIN = W S,T,M,L
LB4 TBI 4.3L 94 VIN = Z G,M,L,S,T,C,K
LN2 MFI 2.2L 94 VIN=4 S
* L03 TBI 5.0L 95 VIN=H C,K,G
* L05 TBI 5.7L 95 VIN=K C,K,G
* L35 CPI 4.3L 95 VIN=W S,T,M,L
* LB4 TBI 4.3L 95 VIN=Z G,M,L,S,T,C,K
* LN2 MFI 2.2L 94 VIN=4 S

DATA STREAM A219
PCM-6 WITH 4L80E TRANSMISSION
ENGINE USAGE:
LB4 TBI 4.3L 94 VIN = Z C,K,G,P
L05 TBI 5.7L 94 VIN = K C,K,G,P,W-MD
L19 TBI 7.4L 94 VIN = N C,K,G,P
* LB4 TBI 4.3L 1995 VIN = Z C,K,G,P
* L05 TBI 5.7L 1995 VIN = K C,K,G,P,W-MD
* L19 TBI 7.4L 1995 VIN = N C,K,G,P
* LB4 TBI 4.3L 1995 VIN = Z C,K (HD) MANUAL TRANS.
* L19 TBI 7.4L 1995 VIN = N C,K (HD) MANUAL TRANS. pcm-6


DATA STREAM A220
PCM-6 WITH 4L80E TRANSMISSION
The 4L80E transmission can be used with the following engines
TCM USAGE:
LB4 TBI 4.3L 94 VIN = Z C,K,G,P
L05 TBI 5.7L 94 VIN = K C,K,G,P
L19 TBI 7.4L 94 VIN = N C,K,G,P
L05 TBI 5.7L 94 VIN = A MEDIUM DUTY TRUCK
* LB4 TBI 4.3L 95 VIN = Z C,K,G,P
* L05 TBI 5.7L 95 VIN = K C,K,G,P
* L05 TBI 5.7L 95 VIN = A MEDIUM DUTY TRUCK
* L19 TBI 7.4L 95 VIN = N C,K,G,P

HaulnA$$ 12-03-2005 09:29 PM


Originally posted by honken
It looks like its the same stream as the 6395-7427 ecm
Looks like all off this engines with 4L60E hase the 217 ads.
The ads 217 is OD217 engine v1_0.ads in moates.net.

The 219-220 ads its for the 4L80 trans and man.....

Looks to me like it is the A201 datastream for the engine and A204 for the tranny. The '8625 was only used in 1993 for the auto tranny trucks.

DATA STREAM A201
ENGINE USAGE: PCM-6 4L60E
L03 5.0L VIN = H 93 C,K,G
L05 5.7L VIN = K 93 C,K,G
L35 4.3L VIN = W 93 S,T,M,L
LB4 4.3L VIN = Z 93 G,M,L,S,T,C,K

DATA STREAM A204
TCM USAGE: PCM-6 4L60E
4.3L TBI LB4 (VIN=Z) 93
4.3L TBI L35 (VIN=W) 93
5.0L TBI L03 (VIN=H) 93
5.7L TBI L05 (VIN=K) 93

dimented24x7 12-04-2005 06:56 PM

Re: ALDL with Tunerpro and '8625
 

Originally posted by ben73
As much as I have used TunerPro, I have never been successful in getting the ALDL part to work.
I downloaded a definition from moates.net, and I think that is the problem. I can connect, but all I get is the error count rocketing up. I don't want to create my own definition, but maybe I'll have to....
Has anyone ever datalogged this PCM with TunerPro?

Ben.

I have an untouched stock 8625 and just for yucks I used the $0D A217 engine def file with RT and it appeared to datalog fine on the bench. Connects immediatly. Other then a few boogers in the def file itself it appears to work ok.

ben73 12-04-2005 09:02 PM

Re: Re: ALDL with Tunerpro and '8625
 

Originally posted by dimented24x7
I have an untouched stock 8625 and just for yucks I used the $0D A217 engine def file with RT and it appeared to datalog fine on the bench. Connects immediatly. Other then a few boogers in the def file itself it appears to work ok.
Great! Would you mind sending me the definition file you used??
I'll start with that and edit anything thats different with the $E6

ben_p@bigpond.net.au

Thanks!

dimented24x7 12-04-2005 09:14 PM

Its on moates.net in the file section. First one there under the datastream definitions. It should at least show something when it datalogs. That will at least help you determine if your having a hardware issue. From what I could tell, most of the major things where datalogging correctly.

ben73 12-04-2005 09:15 PM


Originally posted by dimented24x7
Its on moates.net in the file section. First one there under the datastream definitions. It should at least show something when it datalogs. That will at least help you determine if your having a hardware issue. From what I could tell, most of the major things where datalogging correctly.
Great, many thanks!

HaulnA$$ 12-04-2005 09:35 PM

Re: Re: Re: ALDL with Tunerpro and '8625
 

Originally posted by ben73
Great! Would you mind sending me the definition file you used??
I'll start with that and edit anything thats different with the $E6

ben_p@bigpond.net.au

Thanks!

After a quick check, looks like the only difference between the A201 and A217 datastreams is word 56. In A201, it is commanded AFR and in A217 it is spark retard. There could be more differences that I missed though. I guess I will have an A201.ads to add to the collection here shortly. HTH

ben73 12-04-2005 10:20 PM

Well it works with the $0D definition, and as dimented said, most of the stuff is in the right place. I'll comfirm each one and fix the few that aren't correct.

Thanks again!


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