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Twin_Turbo 06-13-2013 08:00 PM

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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/atta...s-p1010021.jpg

mac86 06-15-2013 07:28 PM

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this honestly looks awesome.

RS Chris 06-15-2013 10:10 PM

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I'd drive it.

freaky 06-16-2013 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mac86 (Post 5582008)


i like it

RockJay81 06-16-2013 10:11 AM

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I'd drive it off a cLiff

zraffz 06-16-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RockJay81 (Post 5582247)
I'd drive it off a cLiff

Me too. Every fenderflare in this topic is hideous.

Dakota W. 06-16-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by zraffz (Post 5582344)
Me too. Every fenderflare in this topic is hideous.

the stock fender flares are hideous? Why are you even on this website?

T/Aperformance 06-16-2013 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by zraffz (Post 5582344)
Me too. Every fenderflare in this topic is hideous.

Nice opinion you have there. And thank you for the insult.

Do you even understand what it take to make customs fender flares, I don't think you do. You can't just order these and stick them on. I've got over 100 hours in mine so far and many more to go,

86_irocz-28 06-16-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by T/Aperformance (Post 5582574)
Nice opinion you have there. And thank you for the insult.

Do you even understand what it take to make customs fender flares, I don't think you do. You can't just order these and stick them on. I've got over 100 hours in mine so far and many more to go,

Yours is awesome love the spoiler and pop up deletes

Twin_Turbo 06-17-2013 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by T/Aperformance (Post 5582574)
Nice opinion you have there. And thank you for the insult.

Do you even understand what it take to make customs fender flares, I don't think you do. You can't just order these and stick them on. I've got over 100 hours in mine so far and many more to go,


Just ignore the narrow minded, no vision..no taste.

T/Aperformance 06-17-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 86_irocz-28 (Post 5582585)
Yours is awesome love the spoiler and pop up deletes

Thank you, Its a lot of work and a long way until it's done. I won't do a build thread until I'm finished or close to it, But I keep everything documented and lots of pics.

Twin_Turbo, I'm not to worried about what that person thinks, They have there right to there own opinion, And you know what they say about them. It was how they stated it making them look like an opinion.

86_irocz-28 06-17-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by T/Aperformance (Post 5582958)
Thank you, Its a lot of work and a long way until it's done. I won't do a build thread until I'm finished or close to it, But I keep everything documented and lots of pics.

Twin_Turbo, I'm not to worried about what that person thinks, They have there right to there own opinion, And you know what they say about them. It was how they stated it making them look like an opinion.

When do you think itll be done would love to see more pics

Street Lethal 06-17-2013 06:47 PM

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I'm actually liking the rear flares off of that Camaro a few posts up, insomuch that I photo-shopped it on my GTA, then I brought the TT2 rim out to meet it. I'm freaking liking it a lot...

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps4c13ca81.jpg

BlackTopKing 06-17-2013 09:19 PM

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If it help at all, im doing a widebody build thread with flares, 4"over on rear and 2"over on fronts. Check last past for last weeks update, should be in primer week or so.
Just a thought for the builtnotbought crowd.

T/Aperformance 06-18-2013 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 86_irocz-28 (Post 5582966)
When do you think itll be done would love to see more pics

I'm unsure when I'll be finished with this project, I just have so many other projects like 2 motor homes both big block chevys getting fuel injection and turbos, I have a sail boat and a ski boat to work on, just finished putting a motor in the ski boat, and all those are for one customer, well one motor home is mine, and what I am using to design everything for my customer, since they are the same exact vintage RV, So my Trans Am is last on the list of things to get done, but I did just buy a new roll of fiberglass so I'll be doing some more work on the TA, I'm not happy with how my hood turned out last time so I'll be making a new one, A little thicker this time and hopefully the ZL1 cowl will be right this time,

T/Aperformance 06-18-2013 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Street Lethal (Post 5582971)
I'm actually liking the rear flares off of that Camaro a few posts up, insomuch that I photo-shopped it on my GTA, then I brought the TT2 rim out to meet it. I'm freaking liking it a lot...

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps4c13ca81.jpg

That looks great on your car and you can fit some really wide tires under there, And with what you're doing with your car I'm sure you could use them.

86_irocz-28 06-18-2013 12:48 AM

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looked good from the pics

T/Aperformance 06-18-2013 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 86_irocz-28 (Post 5583141)
looked good from the pics

Ye but the pics don't really show the front of the cowl at its widest point and how as you look up the cowl towards the windshield it goes in an 8th of an inch on each side, This was caused by the hood being curved as firebirds hoods are, So I'm going to modify this one for a plug, then make a new mold. and then a new hood.
It has to be right for what I plan on doing for the paint and simple grafixs.

86_irocz-28 06-18-2013 01:08 AM

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Should turn out pretty nice!

BADNBLK 06-18-2013 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mac86 (Post 5582008)

I have emailed that used car place about 3 times trying to get info about this car and if there is wiggle room on the price.

I like what you guys are doing in here. Keep the ideas bouncing and trial and error until you get it right. Haters keep hating. Its just motivation for an even better end result.

Coprice 9C1 06-18-2013 10:28 AM

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So, nobody has brought up wheel sizes yet. If a guy wanted to run a 15" wheel.... Rears 10-12" wide? 4-5" BS? Fronts 10" wide with a standard 4" BS? Probably have to do some sort of spacer to get it perfect once the flare was built.

I'm only guessing. It's been several years since I researched widths, BS and tire sizes to stuff some tires under my Caprice.

fireturd350 06-18-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Coprice 9C1 (Post 5583264)
So, nobody has brought up wheel sizes yet. If a guy wanted to run a 15" wheel.... Rears 10-12" wide? 4-5" BS? Fronts 10" wide with a standard 4" BS? Probably have to do some sort of spacer to get it perfect once the flare was built.

I'm only guessing. It's been several years since I researched widths, BS and tire sizes to stuff some tires under my Caprice.

The 15x8s rears should have around a 4.5" backspacing stock.

15x10 on rears will fit with 5.5" back spacing. Yes, they come close to the fender but do not touch with the correct tire.

15x10 with 6.5" backspacing will fit also if you shave the bump stop, trim some metal, and tap the front edge of the fender well with a hammer.

Depending on the rear fender flares you might get away with a 15x12 with 5.5" or 6.5" back spacing. At that point your backspacing wouldn't change you'd just be increasing the rim width to bring it as close as you could to the outside.

I think there would be a point that looking cool would become looking like a car with messed up backspacing trying to use flares to be legal.

paul_huryk 06-18-2013 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Coprice 9C1 (Post 5583264)
So, nobody has brought up wheel sizes yet. If a guy wanted to run a 15" wheel.... Rears 10-12" wide? 4-5" BS? Fronts 10" wide with a standard 4" BS? Probably have to do some sort of spacer to get it perfect once the flare was built.

I'm only guessing. It's been several years since I researched widths, BS and tire sizes to stuff some tires under my Caprice.


Honestly, if you are going to flare the fenders, don't even waste an ounce of time on the 15" wheels - they are extremely limited in both tire patterns and also brake clearance.

If you are serious, step right into the 18" wheel club - a stock 3rd gen can run 295-35-18 tires on 10.5" wide wheels without any problems. Add 2" of flare allows a 12.5" wheel and a 335 width tire. 335 on all 4 corners with the right suspension is a world beater...

mac86 06-18-2013 02:02 PM

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im doing 18x12 rims on all four corners. Weld RTS High Pad Rims.

mac86 06-18-2013 02:06 PM

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im toying with the idea of no bolt on, just bond the fiberglass to the metal. i dont know yet.

paul_huryk 06-18-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mac86 (Post 5583381)
im doing 18x12 rims on all four corners. Weld RTS High Pad Rims.

Now that sounds like a great plan!

T/Aperformance 06-19-2013 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Coprice 9C1 (Post 5583264)
So, nobody has brought up wheel sizes yet. If a guy wanted to run a 15" wheel.... Rears 10-12" wide? 4-5" BS? Fronts 10" wide with a standard 4" BS? Probably have to do some sort of spacer to get it perfect once the flare was built.

I'm only guessing. It's been several years since I researched widths, BS and tire sizes to stuff some tires under my Caprice.

I don't know about 15" wheels But I'm running !7"x11' with 7.5 inch back spacing, Corvette wheels , Front spacer are 2" tires are 285 40s, Rears I'm using 2.5 spacers tires are 335s My flares are only an inch and a half wider in front than stock and an inch and three quarters wider than stock, Not much I know but they are designed to fit my wheels and tire combo and not be to big, They are also deigned to make the wheel well look smaller and fit closer to the tire.

T/Aperformance 06-19-2013 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mac86 (Post 5583382)
im toying with the idea of no bolt on, just bond the fiberglass to the metal. i dont know yet.

I made mine to be a bolt on and bonded on to the fenders, For them to last a long time with out cracking you really need to do both.

mac86 07-03-2013 02:42 PM

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okay, i have decided i am most likely going to drop the custom fabbed fender flares. tires would cost a fortune, and so do the rims. i am going to get some custom fiberglass fender skins that extend the wheel wells out 1.5 inches. since i can already fit 9.5 inch rims all around without any modification,,,or so i have heard, i am going to get 4 deep dish corvette zr1 wheels. hyper silver. 17x11. i just dont know what spacers to run though. is there a way i can measure what spacer size i need?

T/Aperformance 07-03-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mac86 (Post 5593315)
okay, i have decided i am most likely going to drop the custom fabbed fender flares. tires would cost a fortune, and so do the rims. i am going to get some custom fiberglass fender skins that extend the wheel wells out 1.5 inches. since i can already fit 9.5 inch rims all around without any modification,,,or so i have heard, i am going to get 4 deep dish corvette zr1 wheels. hyper silver. 17x11. i just dont know what spacers to run though. is there a way i can measure what spacer size i need?

Well most of the corvette ZR1 wheels like the ones I have on my rear in my pics only need a 2.00 to 2.50 inch spacers, I'm unsure which Wheels your thinking of, The wheels like mine even with the deep dish are only a 2 inch lip but the back spacing is the same,
I'm sure you have checked the wheel and tire section but there are plenty of post about this size wheels and back spacing.

RockJay81 07-03-2013 11:07 PM

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My brains hurts with this thread.

r c 09-10-2013 08:26 PM

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came across this picture online a while ago ....

BlackTopKing 09-10-2013 08:54 PM

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Well I had to share, think I posted couple months ago I was in mist of doing something like the fender flair/wide body. I have a pretty detail thread for those who are interested, but I have 2" up front, nose is about 2" total but not much to mention. Rear is 4" over total, 2" in quaters withba 2"flair at too apex, 3.5" on aprons making a 2" total at taillights and rear bumper.

Last two pics are after 4tg gean rear swap (should be noted) as the others are prior.

After swap I don't have much to kill, and am looking for rims now, key is offset, corvette rims seemed like best bet at first, but after really looking and tryn a few on, there are maybe one or two stock sets I even consider. Two reasons, one...there are flat face rims and actually kills the wide look plus your not really getting out of the stock lip area, just wider tread under car.
Two....cost, might as well grab a set of MMT (I think there called,) aftermarket corvette rims and still, not out of the well...by much, the rear helps big time but still not enough for what your adding (if you rearlly add width to car and not reshape the fender/quarters to look flaired)

But old school welds or craigs, now....have offset, which get out from under car and the lip....ampifies the appearance of depth.....it'll look deep n wider, plus you can still get in 10" width which kills the rear, skinny jean look....

Unless you wanna spend the money for CCW rims....ahhhhhhhh....sexy....but they are worth more then my whole car and if I had that budget, I'd....probably do it...,

So, trick is wider =; offset....

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rarebmx 09-10-2013 09:16 PM

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More research on IMSA style flares

rarebmx 09-10-2013 09:31 PM

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I'm going to research this a little more in person.

jaybdaboat 09-30-2013 08:47 PM

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If the op isn't done yet, maybe try vents in the fenders like the new c7's. Make it a little more aerodynamic.

scarbucket 10-07-2013 03:47 PM

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might have to roll wheel wells and make those myself hmm thanks for the idea!

BlackTopKing 10-07-2013 06:39 PM

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What OP?!

iansane 10-07-2013 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo (Post 5580998)
You guys do know that GM offered flares on firebirds shipped to japan right? I have never seen the camaro type. The firebird ones are a little like Corvette Grand Sport flares and IMO pretty hideous but would make a nice starting pont

I would LOVE to get my hands on a set of these. The biggest downside to these is availability. As in, I've never seen a set for sale. You've found lots of weird stuff, have you seen them for sale?

surajchem 12-23-2013 03:14 PM

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i found something similar but may work and is cheap!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARBON-FENDER-FLARES-WHEEL-LIP-BODY-KITS-FOR-UNIVERSAL-CAR-TRUCK-550x60mm-/121173413958?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c367f9046

92g92 12-23-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by T/Aperformance (Post 5582574)
Nice opinion you have there. And thank you for the insult.

Do you even understand what it take to make customs fender flares, I don't think you do. You can't just order these and stick them on. I've got over 100 hours in mine so far and many more to go,

If it takes me 100+ hours to take a ****, that doesn't make it pretty. Fender flares and side pipes are the two things on the list of "Cool Car Aesthetics that Don't Belong on a Thirdgen". They are just ugly. Don't want to flame anyone, it's your car do with it what you wish, but if someone posted up "How to make 22's fit on a thirdgen", you know darn well we'd have 90% of this site telling them how disgusting and stupid it would be on a thirdgen, not to mention tasteless. Same thing here.

Mirror Image 12-23-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by iansane (Post 5648315)
I would LOVE to get my hands on a set of these. The biggest downside to these is availability. As in, I've never seen a set for sale. You've found lots of weird stuff, have you seen them for sale?

Iansane I wouldn't do anything to your car it looks great just the way it is

Joe Tag 12-23-2013 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mirror Image (Post 5686190)
Iansane I wouldn't do anything to your car it looks great just the way it is

:iagree:

InfernalVortex 12-23-2013 09:26 PM

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scarbucket 12-24-2013 04:15 AM

I really like to stick in the ones you found I might have to order myself a set and uses a base for my fiberglass when I do my fender flares thanks guys

Dakota W. 12-24-2013 06:29 AM

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Fiberglass fenders?

scarbucket 12-25-2013 08:04 AM

No fiber glass fender flares like the wide body kits they do on some of the dub cars not fiberglass fenders

InfernalVortex 12-26-2013 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dakota W. (Post 5686473)
Fiberglass fenders?

I have no idea, something that got posted up on facebook a while back. Someone found it on craigslist.

If you want a little more info, you might find some useful stuff here.

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=23997

This particular post is pretty useful:

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/show...&postcount=273

And here are some pictures of his flares...

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_2857.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_2859.jpg

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scarbucket 12-26-2013 09:38 PM

Exactly how I'm doing my flairs is there

T/Aperformance 12-29-2013 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 92g92 (Post 5686129)
If it takes me 100+ hours to take a ****, that doesn't make it pretty. Fender flares and side pipes are the two things on the list of "Cool Car Aesthetics that Don't Belong on a Thirdgen". They are just ugly. Don't want to flame anyone, it's your car do with it what you wish, but if someone posted up "How to make 22's fit on a thirdgen", you know darn well we'd have 90% of this site telling them how disgusting and stupid it would be on a thirdgen, not to mention tasteless. Same thing here.

WOW a newbe comes on here and and is bad mouthing other peoples car. Who are you to say what belongs on third gen or not. There are people that like the look and even think its cool. If no one did than this thread wouldn't keep coming back to life, And people would quit sending me private messages asking me advice about mine and if I still have my molds to make them some. Now the people that like them are here to learn and talk about them.
Now it's OK if you don't like fender flares but that is all you would need to say if anything, So are you here just to bash peoples ideas and cars or are you going to contribute in a positive, helpful and creative way?


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