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Motown 04-04-2012 04:57 PM

Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 
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Finally took my IROC-Z out of storage on Monday, and today I changed out just a few things that needed to be swapped. There are still many more things I would like to do, but heres what Ive done so far.

My door lock buttons were severely worn, so I swapped in some new genuine buttons.

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I also scored some NOS parking lights made in the usa in their old original boxes. These things are beautiful.

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Here is how bad my originals were. This is after I attempted to polish them last summer.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...-4-2012009.jpg
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Seems as though this IROC-Z has been down some dirt roads too. (Although the car was in Arizona for a few years.)

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Motown 04-04-2012 04:57 PM

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NOS lights installed. I recommend everyone finds a set of NOS lights. They instantly make the front of the car look 15 years younger.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...-4-2012017.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...-4-2012019.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...-4-2012018.jpg

One of my license plate lights was busted when I bought the car, so I got a used lens and a new bulb.

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And thanks to TTOP350 for the awesome set of NOS gauges (except speedo) They look brand new, the red lines are not faded at all, and work great. All gauges have resistance. Even the water temp gauge sweeps slowly when you start the engine.

Old faded/broken tach from an 89 IROC

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New gauges installed (except speedo) Please excuse the scratched lens.

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Next on my to do list:

Leather Steering wheel
Turn Signal Stalk
Ignition Cylinder
GM Key Blanks

Stay tuned!

puma1552 04-04-2012 06:51 PM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 
Looks fantastic, nothing freshens the car up like NOS parking lights...I did mine back in 2004-2005 or so and it was a night and day difference.

Motown 04-04-2012 07:27 PM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 
Thanks. I saw pics of your car with new lights too but it looks even better in person. :thumbsup:

puma1552 04-04-2012 09:35 PM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 
They sure do, they look good in pics but it really is amazing how much healthier the new ones make the car look in person. It really makes the difference between, "It looks alright" and "Wow that is one clean car." I also did all new headlights (Silverstars).

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5086/5...c55b179a_b.jpg

The detail items are what make an old car or a new paint job look good...a $10k paint job will look no better than a $1000 paint job if all the old lights/emblems are put back in, but a car with a 20 year old paint job can absolutely glow with fresh lights and detail trim all around.

IROCZTWENTYGR8 04-05-2012 03:21 AM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 
I really want a set of NOS parking lights but they seem to hard to find. I ordered them from GMPartDirect and what came was an imitation of what the factory pieces were. Horrible waste of money and I won't use them.

TTOP350 04-05-2012 07:49 AM

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Wow, your reeeally getting her cleaned up! I'm glad the guages went to a good home, they look good in there! Grab a new lens or polish yours and that'll be super clean!!
I still have the 2 NOS T-body to heatercore molded hose with the ink stamp part number on it..
Nothing like NOS/ super low milage parts!

Motown 04-05-2012 09:08 PM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 
IROCZTWENTYGR8, you just have to be patient on ebay and wait for a set to pop up like I did. I look for signs like Made in USA stamps on the back of the units, and old and brittle looking boxes and yellowed stickers to go along with the lights. Thats how to guarantee they are actually New Old Stock and not New-New-Stock GM approved aftermarkets from China.

TTOP350, thanks for the compliments. The gauges look great in my car. Once I find a better lens (maybe NOS?) then it will be even better. But hey, at least the red line is actually red again and not pink like the old gauges! :lol:

scottmoyer 04-06-2012 07:47 PM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 
What have you found to be a fair price for a set of the parking lights?

Motown 04-06-2012 07:59 PM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 
I paid 110 on ebay for my particular set. I was willing to go up to 125. There are sets of "Buy it Now" lights for 249 on ebay at the moment, but I would never gamble that kind of money risking they show up at the door looking like what IROCZTWENTYGR8 described.

Like I said I look for old boxes in the ad to accompany the NOS lights. So I guess 125 would be the top of my "fair" bracket. Others may be willing to pay more though.

chazman 04-06-2012 08:13 PM

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:thumbsup:Looks great!

Motown 04-06-2012 08:20 PM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 
Thanks Charlie! I really appreciate it. It was your Yellow IROC-Z thread that got me motivated to clean up my car a bit and make a thread. I still have a lot more to get to though.

chazman 04-07-2012 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Motown (Post 5235440)
Thanks Charlie! I really appreciate it. It was your Yellow IROC-Z thread that got me motivated to clean up my car a bit and make a thread. I still have a lot more to get to though.

Nice to hear that. Keep the updates coming.

my82roc 04-07-2012 09:51 AM

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Ive actually pulled 3 or 4 really clean/clear sets of parking lights off of junkyard cars.That doesnt happen very often

80schild 04-07-2012 09:51 AM

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Have any of you tried wet sanding those old parking lights?

I friend of mine has an old '69 Fire Truck, and the red light bar on the roof was really oxidized and cloudy. We wet sanded it with 1000, then 1500, then 2000 grit (just like wetsanding paint). Then we polished it with plastic restorer, and it turned out nice and clear.

chazman 04-07-2012 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8 (Post 5233724)
I really want a set of NOS parking lights but they seem to hard to find. I ordered them from GMPartDirect and what came was an imitation of what the factory pieces were. Horrible waste of money and I won't use them.


What was wrong with the ones you got again? I know that you posted about it.

puma1552 04-07-2012 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8 (Post 5233724)
I really want a set of NOS parking lights but they seem to hard to find. I ordered them from GMPartDirect and what came was an imitation of what the factory pieces were. Horrible waste of money and I won't use them.

Have you tried Modern Day Muscle?

http://www.moderndaymuscle.com/inc/sdetail/163/869

It doesn't say that they are discontinued, so the dealer may even still carry them.

scottmoyer 04-07-2012 07:26 PM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 
The difference in the two sets are the original GM lights are trimmed in black inside the light and the new ones aren't.

IROCZTWENTYGR8 04-08-2012 01:16 AM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 
Charlie and puma,

Like Scott said, these companies all advertise their parking lights as new but they are NOT the same as the NOS parts. The insides of the originals have black trim around the sides and the inimtations, made overseas instead of in the US, are mirrored. It absolutely changes the look of the light, even making them seem brighter than normal when on. Unfortunately, GMPartsDirect doesn't take those parts back, it'd be nice if there was a warning beforehand that these parts are not what originally came on the cars.

White93z34 04-08-2012 07:12 PM

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That black trimming makes all the difference in the world!

chazman 04-08-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8 (Post 5236657)
Charlie and puma,

Like Scott said, these companies all advertise their parking lights as new but they are NOT the same as the NOS parts. The insides of the originals have black trim around the sides and the inimtations, made overseas instead of in the US, are mirrored. It absolutely changes the look of the light, even making them seem brighter than normal when on. Unfortunately, GMPartsDirect doesn't take those parts back, it'd be nice if there was a warning beforehand that these parts are not what originally came on the cars.

These are from ThirdGenRanch.

http://thirdgenranch.com/-strse-951/...ide/Detail.bok

http://thirdgenranch.com/catalog/000_0158.JPG

They appear correct, are they?

Motown 04-08-2012 09:43 PM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 
Those look like the correct ones. Just make sure they have a good return policy in case they show up to the door in the "all chrome" version...

IROCZTWENTYGR8 04-09-2012 05:12 AM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 
I'll bet that's another stock photo and what you get is the "new" chrome set. I might ask though.

chazman 04-09-2012 09:06 AM

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Maybe we should get Denny from Thirdgen Ranch to comment on them. I just PM'd him.

89blues 04-09-2012 09:35 AM

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What about these knock off ones? Looks like from the pictures it has the black inserts...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Clear-lens-N...754f04&vxp=mtr

Thirdgen Ranch 04-09-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chazman (Post 5237781)
Maybe we should get Denny from Thirdgen Ranch to comment on them. I just PM'd him.

I believe the last batch we had in stock had the correct black finish but I'm not positive since we sold out late last week. We are expecting another shipment in anytime so I'll let you know what we get.

Unfortunately, automakers change suppliers and designs from time to time so replacement parts may not be exactly like the originals. This is even true in the case of newer cars.

Motown 07-02-2012 09:31 PM

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Well I'm finishing up some final touches to the Camaro before this weekends Camaro Superfest 2012 in Ypsilanti MI, (whose going?)

Got a new leather wheel from Chuck Pelton at his shop in West Bloomfield MI. Picked it up in person. What a great guy and he does great work.

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Also since I had the wheel off, I installed a NOS turn signal stalk with correct skinny stalk, and a NOS ignition lock cylinder with new GM keys.

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Other than finding a NOS Shifter Plate, my interior and exterior are finally the way I like it.

Dusk2600 07-02-2012 09:42 PM

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its all the little stuff that really all together makes it stand out like it was new. Looks very nice, i should do my ignition next already am doing door key cylinders while is apart for paint

Motown 07-02-2012 10:12 PM

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Yeah I recommend getting one. Youre right its the little things that make the car as a whole stand out more.

chazman 07-02-2012 11:08 PM

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Nice!

sc@hms 07-03-2012 05:35 AM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 
Looks good! Isn't it amazing how little parts here and there totally change the overall look of the car? Nice IROC!

NCGuy68 07-03-2012 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8 (Post 5236657)
Charlie and puma,

Like Scott said, these companies all advertise their parking lights as new but they are NOT the same as the NOS parts. The insides of the originals have black trim around the sides and the inimtations, made overseas instead of in the US, are mirrored. It absolutely changes the look of the light, even making them seem brighter than normal when on. Unfortunately, GMPartsDirect doesn't take those parts back, it'd be nice if there was a warning beforehand that these parts are not what originally came on the cars.

GMPartsDirect is a Joke...!, steer clear of them.

If you pay for an NOS part it better be in the original GM package and marked with a legit GM part #.

As for repop parts, thirdgen ranch seems to offer the best.

Motown 07-03-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chazman (Post 5317525)
Nice!


Originally Posted by sc@hms (Post 5317695)
Looks good! Isn't it amazing how little parts here and there totally change the overall look of the car? Nice IROC!

Thanks for the compliments guys! Its all coming together now! :thumbsup:

lonestar7 07-03-2012 11:06 PM

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Great job! Everybody has their own taste, I like original. I just bought a new curse control/wiper stalk for my 1988 Firebird, would like to replace the ignition switch too, just like you did.

NCGuy68 07-04-2012 06:54 AM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 

Originally Posted by 80schild (Post 5235898)
Have any of you tried wet sanding those old parking lights?

I friend of mine has an old '69 Fire Truck, and the red light bar on the roof was really oxidized and cloudy. We wet sanded it with 1000, then 1500, then 2000 grit (just like wetsanding paint). Then we polished it with plastic restorer, and it turned out nice and clear.

The 3M headlight restoration kit works wonders and is basically ehat was done to the red light bar. The kit is about $25 and NAPA carries them.

Motown 07-04-2012 10:48 AM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 

Originally Posted by lonestar7 (Post 5318391)
Great job! Everybody has their own taste, I like original. I just bought a new curse control/wiper stalk for my 1988 Firebird, would like to replace the ignition switch too, just like you did.

Thank you! You wouldnt believe the difference a fresh turn signal stalk and ignition lock cylinder makes on the overall interior appearance. I say you should do both.

puma1552 07-04-2012 11:50 AM

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Looks great, I wish I could find a NOS turn signal stalk for my car but a yellow print with cruise and delay seems to be a unicorn.

Now just get rid of those god-awful hillbilly floormats ;)

TTOP350 07-04-2012 12:15 PM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 

Originally Posted by puma1552 (Post 5318682)
Looks great, I wish I could find a NOS turn signal stalk for my car but a yellow print with cruise and delay seems to be a unicorn.

Now just get rid of those god-awful hillbilly floormats ;)

I have a used one for sale. Its not 100% perfect but its nice. sorry 4 the bad pic but a lil of the S an E are a lil worn but thats about it.
http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...0809111941.jpg

Motown 07-04-2012 01:06 PM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 

Originally Posted by puma1552 (Post 5318682)

Now just get rid of those god-awful hillbilly floormats ;)

Funny you say that because as soon as I finished up, I took them out of the car. :lmao:

akanitro 07-04-2012 01:12 PM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 
Do you have the info for Chuck Pelton. I need a steering wheel for my 1989 GTA

80schild 07-06-2012 12:28 AM

Re: Freshening up the White 85 IROC with NOS parts
 
How hard was it to remove that turn signal stalk? I tried twisting and pulling mine, but it won't budge. I'm thinking it may be the reason my cruise don't work.

puma1552 07-06-2012 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TTOP350 (Post 5318699)
I have a used one for sale. Its not 100% perfect but its nice. sorry 4 the bad pic but a lil of the S an E are a lil worn but thats about it.
http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...0809111941.jpg

Thanks, unfortunately though that's about the same as mine.

TTOP350 07-06-2012 06:48 AM

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Yeah, thats what I figured.
I put new ones in all of my cars, pricy. A pain in the butt to not touch them on the lettering!

Anti-Venom 07-06-2012 07:32 AM

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I need a new multi-switch in mine. It not only has all the lettering gone but last time I drove it with the cruise on and signaled to pass, the cruise kicked in and out with the turn signal :eek

TTOP350 07-06-2012 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Venom (Post 5320078)
I need a new multi-switch in mine. It not only has all the lettering gone but last time I drove it with the cruise on and signaled to pass, the cruise kicked in and out with the turn signal :eek

I have some old ones that work but the lettering isnt perfect or gone if u just want it to work..

Motown 07-06-2012 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by akanitro (Post 5318739)
Do you have the info for Chuck Pelton. I need a steering wheel for my 1989 GTA

Yes. His number is (248) 363-5025. If its busy when you call just keep trying.

Motown 07-06-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 80schild (Post 5319980)
How hard was it to remove that turn signal stalk? I tried twisting and pulling mine, but it won't budge. I'm thinking it may be the reason my cruise don't work.

I just got a firm grip on it and pulled straight out slowly. The cruise wire will be down in the column and will have to be unplugged before you can pull it all the way out.

yo soy el warg 07-07-2012 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Motown (Post 5320349)
I just got a firm grip on it and pulled straight out slowly. The cruise wire will be down in the column and will have to be unplugged before you can pull it all the way out.

There is a retainer on the end and I think it will only pull off in the off position setting. Be sure to check for this.

BADNBLK 07-10-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TTOP350 (Post 5318699)
I have a used one for sale. Its not 100% perfect but its nice. sorry 4 the bad pic but a lil of the S an E are a lil worn but thats about it.
http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...0809111941.jpg

How much do you want for it? Can you send me another little better pic? I can send paypal today :)

my82roc 07-10-2012 05:04 PM

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I also have a decent yellow print wiper/turn signal lever available.Pic in this thread


https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/inte...c-1991-rs.html


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