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currently workin on dash swap . cluster is workin but i dont have the hot and igntion hooked up so would this cause my turn signals not to work yet?

also i have my headlight and parkin lights workin with the 4th gen switch

does anyone have the schematics for the small bezel lighting "white letters" to light up . ? i have my cluster lighten up right now

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how is it working if it doesnt have power?
you signals should work on the car, but its gonna need power to make the arrows blink.

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only my gauge lettering is lightin up . so i might have a short or maybe no power with ignition

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:nod: Wow, talk about making a hot car even more badass! Can't wait to see pics of that thing when you're done!

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well i got the thing on a while back havent worked on it.. my interior lights. go crazy .. idk if its maybe due to low battery but my hids stay on.. i only have one ground strap for the interior.. usually its two right?

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All of your interior's dash light wires are light grey. That includes switches.

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im not sure if its a wire issue. my 3rd gen headlight switch was messed up and caused all might interior lighting to do crazy things.
new headlight switched fixed the issue. have you wired up the 4th gen headlight switch yet?
hopefully its something simple.

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yeah actually i have.. hopefully i didnt cross anythign up .. do u have any schematics?

i guess il figure it out.. sooner or later.
also i want to have my interior lights .. dome.. etc on with the dimmer on the up position . is it possible?

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...d/CIMG0793.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...d/CIMG0796.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...d/CIMG0806.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...d/CIMG0832.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...d/CIMG0824.jpg

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i figured i might have just messed up on the headlight switch i might work on this on friday . i was able to get the interior lightin form the cluster im guessin the other appliances has a missing ground. .. so so far ill get the small light in the fog light switch hooked up as awell as the headlight switch lighting.

ill figure out the turn signals later.

hooked up my gauges and fan switches where the hvac controls suppose to go .. this might be temporary until i get the ac unit workin again.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1.../build/ent.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...build/ent3.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...build/ent4.jpg

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nice!!!!!!!!!!!!

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OMG thats so sexy, Love the z28 emblem too btw.

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when its wired up properly, everything should work.
my lights dim dome and cluster.

i dont have my notes with me from my swap, but i found this in a thread.
pretty useful.
good luck.

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3rd GEN -> 4th GEN ; Purpose

-Headlight Harness-
ORANGE -> ORANGE ; Taillights Fuse
RED -> RED ; Always Hot
YELLOW -> YELLOW ; Headlight Dimmer
BLACK -> BLACK ; Ground
BROWN -> BROWN ; Marker Lights
GRAY -> GRAY ; Instrument Lights

-Dimmer Harness-
BLACK/RED -> DARK GREEN ; Dimmer Output
WHITE -> (2) WHITES ; Domelight (The 4th gen switch has 2 outputs for this, so I just spliced them both into the 1 from the 3rd gen harness)
BROWN -> BROWN ; Marker Lights (Dimmer Input)
BLACK -> BLACK ; Ground

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thanks! sounds good.. imma try this out this weekend i think my battery completely died

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wow that looks amazing.

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LMK if you want to get rid of that pontiac cd player. i have a nice chevy version for sale. unlocked. non monsoon.

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thats just there for temporary use. thanks though . i was think in of the other one. same ones on the vette and camaros right?
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some how my wirign diddnt match up . i didnt have any white on th e 4th gen switches.. they look more like grey.. that would be my instrumental lighting etc. everything is hooked up soemhow and working. i might have missmatched the turn signals and my dome light isnt workin with the dimmer on position so i left it out..

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its out of a camaro. s10's, malibus, etc. several other models used the cd player, im not sure about the vette.

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well im actually going to look for a in dash within time. i dont have any speakers at the time so its just there for a visual lol
here are two more of today
some better shots
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ild/intbl1.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...uild/intbl.jpg
im still missing the camaro emblem. need to find a ebony dash pad and modify it to fit. as well as the missing top from the 4th gen center console. door panels. new shift knob. new seats. and pedals. audio can wait for later

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What are you going to do about your gas gauge? That being a 97+ cluster there is going to be problems. I do however have a solution to the gas gauge I think there is one other issue with that cluster though.

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mind to share.? im barely getting there.. i believe the signal comes from the ecm.

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Looks good... nice to see the hard work get put together eh?

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that is sweet

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looks good..i did the firebird dash in my car from a 96 looks killer.........eventualy ill put a 98-02 firebird dash.

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How hard was it to bolt into the car? Looks really great, by the way!!

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not too hard some cutting grinding and fitment was pretty good. i need a console lid and dash lid to work with

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:thanks: I have been thinking of trying this in one of my cars. I just need to find some wiring diagrams...

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small update its been going slow and taking me forever!!

temporary window switches mounted in my ash tray
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...ild/bluint.jpg

few more
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...ld/bluint1.jpg

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looks realy clean.....

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a 97 cluster is the easiest to navigate. it still has the std 90ohm gm sendor.
mine works perfect.

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im still debating what door panels to use. ive been lookin for a nice pair not sure about th5 4th gen panels though

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i can tell you it aint easy and make them look like they belong in there.
youll spend 5 times the labor over the dash swap. the dash swap seemed like plug and play to me... these panels......:bs:

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some final lil touch ups today gm emblem and some leds
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ld/intble1.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ld/intble3.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ild/intble.jpg

im still looking for a dash pad. are all camaro and trans am dash pad interchangeable?

i also want to purchase a dual gauge pod for the pillar if anyone has one i would be interested.

i will need to fill in the gaps in the far corners i dont feel like molding in the 4th gen ones into my 3rd gen .
like this
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1.../intcorner.jpg

but
so far so good

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those are custom made fiberglass caps off of fatals car.
you dont have to mold anything.
if you get creative, you can shave the 4th gen ones down and they will look factory. just takes time.
i wouldnt buy a dashpad online.... it will likely be the wrong color, or be cracked when you get it.
GM is pricey, but you wont have to buy it twice, and it wont crack on you a week later seeing its never been baking in the sun.
my .02

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Hey TPI, the swap is lookin good. It seems that you and I took the same route, but I got a question or two for ya. How did you get the milage on a digital odometer to display with an L98? I was first using the V6 cluster that has an analog odometer and now I'm using a cluster out of a Formula still with an analog odometer but would really like to use a Z28 cluster with the digital read out.

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i believe the numbers showed up from the original camaro that the cluster came off of. so it wont match up to my original miles.

i have question for you guys , i just bought some c5 seats and i cant find any brackets for these. is this ganna be tough? i dont have any welding equipment or experiences . ive searched but cant find much .

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...009081730a.jpg

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Awsome, so a digital odometer cluster from a 97 will work just the same as an analog odometer cluster? Something else I was wondering about, did you have to use the converter box from dakota digital or something of the like to make the speedo and tac register correctly?

As for fitting those seats, well I don't have that answer but they look like they would go better in my car.:lmao: Just pullin ya chain dude, good luck with em. How much did you give for em?

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process is going slow.. barely going to work with the fuel gauge. .. and i need to modify brackets to fit the stock replacement.
here are some updates.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...d/CIMG1131.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...d/CIMG1140.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...d/CIMG1142.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...d/CIMG1148.jpg

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why the aftermarket gauges?

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one is for my water temp and the other is my oil pressure.

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damn, that does look good. makes me wanna do it to mine.

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i was wondering why you werent using the stock gauges.
looks goood either way.

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I started my dash swap... How do you get the plastic a/c piping to mate with the 3rd gen firewall? I just cant seem to fit it. I tryed looking at that pic of how you installed the 4th gen piping, but what did you do? I am clueless. Holding the piping in my hand trying to figure this out... I want my air to blow out the vents...

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you have to cut the 4th gen one. modify it to fit.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...d/CIMG0780.jpg

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Looks good man! Im real interested in those vette seats goin in there, keep us updated!

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Once you cut it... What do you have? A/C? Heater? Just warm air?

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those are the main vents. . and i am barely getting there. i just added them for future preference.

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Hey. I'm having a lot of wiring issues... All the wiring writeups on here dont match up to mine. Im stuck on my headlight wiring still... Need some help on that

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i had some problems with the info that was given here. but i pretty much color matched the wiring and it worked. the only thin i didnt get to fix was controling the dome light and side interior light with the dimmer switch . .

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Ok, someone help me with the wiring on the headlight and dimmer switch. The first pic is a pic of the 4th gen headlight switch's wiring. The wire on the far right is actually brown, and the wire on the left is black.

The second pic is of the 3rd gen headlight switch wires. I need to know which colors to plug where.

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Then, the third pic if of the 4th gen dimmer switch wiring.

And finally the 4th pic is of the 3rd gen side of the dimmer wiring.

Please help