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JTNKTZ 10-14-2010 02:43 PM

1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 
To start off lets explain a little bit about my Camaro.
It's a 350 with a T5 Swap. I have had nothing but problems with it. Now finally, I spun a bearing so I am just going to bite the bullet and drop a LS1 into it.

I plan to buy a SS Camaro that is wrecked. I found a 2002 Camaro that looks promising. It's totaled in the front. But the motor isn't pushed back and air bags did not go off. My first question of hundreds to come:

Is 134k miles on a LS1 motor a lot? I know it depends on maintence and etc, but I just want the average life of a LS1. I put about 500 miles on my car a week so I am hoping to have it last at least a year.

Just so you have an idea, this is what I am swapping over from the Camaro:
Motor and T56
Rear end (Need the extra 2 inchs on bothsides)
Axle
Seats
Gas tank
Front and Rear brakes

I have more questions on those things but I will get to those once I get the motor and everything installed.

Z28FAST1 10-14-2010 04:44 PM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 

Originally Posted by JTNKTZ (Post 4704161)

Is 134k miles on a LS1 motor a lot? I know it depends on maintence and etc, but I just want the average life of a LS1. I put about 500 miles on my car a week so I am hoping to have it last at least a year.

134k on an LS1 is a tired engine, personally I would be ready for a rebuild or just find a lower mileage car.

It will last you a year if you don't beat on it. Some get away w/ throwing heads and cams after 100k miles but you don't see too many LS1's in the 200k mile range.

If possible do a leak down test before purchasing.

Pocket 10-14-2010 05:20 PM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 
134k is nothing for a properly maintained LSx engine. Do a compression check and see. Also pop a valve cover and look for sludge build up. It's not uncommon for 200k mile engines to still show lots of cyl crosshatching

For your list, forget the 4th gen gas tank, not worth the problems. Rest looks good

1nasty86 10-23-2010 06:32 PM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 
still got the stock tank in mine. id get a 255 walbro( the like 100 bucks why not) and use the corvette fuel filter which has a built in regulator.

JTNKTZ 10-25-2010 11:02 PM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 

Originally Posted by 1nasty86 (Post 4713862)
still got the stock tank in mine. id get a 255 walbro( the like 100 bucks why not) and use the corvette fuel filter which has a built in regulator.

I want the built in evap cause I threw my other one away because it was causing pressure problems in my tank.
This is going to be a long build because I am still gathering money but I still have my eye on that one donor car. Just comes down to if I can get the money in time, which if I can sell all my previous sbc stuff I could no problem. In otherwords, BUY MY SBC STUFF IN THE CLASSIFIEDS SECTION!

Thanks!

1ADan 10-26-2010 11:57 AM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 

Originally Posted by Pocket (Post 4704324)
134k is nothing for a properly maintained LSx engine. Do a compression check and see. Also pop a valve cover and look for sludge build up. It's not uncommon for 200k mile engines to still show lots of cyl crosshatching

For your list, forget the 4th gen gas tank, not worth the problems. Rest looks good


agreed; the LS1 block i have had 160k+ on it and the cylinder walls still have quite a bit of the crosshatches. better fuel control and better gasket design are just a couple reasons why these things are built to last. 100k is nothing to worry about if it looks clean under the valve covers.

JTNKTZ 10-28-2010 07:44 PM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 
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So that donor car ended up going for too much. I found another one but it was wrecked really bad. Can anyone tell me if it's a 6 speed? I can't tell lol also what can you see about the motor that I wouldn't know? Whats that thing hooked to the brakes lines? Is that stock?
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Pocket 10-28-2010 09:02 PM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 
The long boot appears to be for a manual, but I cant find the clutch reservoir under the hood anywhere. Ask the seller

The block under the master cyl is for ABS. Some 4th gens delete it. Its an 01-02 too so you get the LS6 intake and a few extra OEM upgrades. The aftermarket lid should be worth a few bucks too. Worthless for your 3rd gen though

JTNKTZ 10-28-2010 09:40 PM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 

Originally Posted by Pocket (Post 4719292)
The long boot appears to be for a manual, but I cant find the clutch reservoir under the hood anywhere. Ask the seller

The block under the master cyl is for ABS. Some 4th gens delete it. Its an 01-02 too so you get the LS6 intake and a few extra OEM upgrades. The aftermarket lid should be worth a few bucks too. Worthless for your 3rd gen though

Also SLP lid and if you look REAL close theres headers :D

EDIT: For some reason when you said lid I thought you meant hood even though I called it a SLP lid. UGhhh :P

quickkris2006 10-28-2010 10:42 PM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 
:idiot: lol.. wish i was still down by u we could be doing the same swap at the same time lol.. where are u finding these parts cars man.. i cant find them up here and when i do there an arm and a leg to get.. dont get me wrong i dont mind spending a few grand to get a car but it cant be completely totalled.. aka air bags.. cuz i want the dash. well i guess that doesnt matter anyway now cuz im picking up a 2000 t/a dash next weekend, i like the t/a dash better the the camaro dash cuz it has the dash vents over the radio.. anyway let me know if u come across any more parts cars.. i just want mine back on the road b4 basic... please !!!!

JTNKTZ 11-02-2010 09:21 PM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 
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Originally Posted by quickkris2006 (Post 4719399)
:idiot: lol.. wish i was still down by u we could be doing the same swap at the same time lol.. where are u finding these parts cars man.. i cant find them up here and when i do there an arm and a leg to get.. dont get me wrong i dont mind spending a few grand to get a car but it cant be completely totalled.. aka air bags.. cuz i want the dash. well i guess that doesnt matter anyway now cuz im picking up a 2000 t/a dash next weekend, i like the t/a dash better the the camaro dash cuz it has the dash vents over the radio.. anyway let me know if u come across any more parts cars.. i just want mine back on the road b4 basic... please !!!!

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You got a PM with my deepest darkest secret lol. But the auction is tomorrow, wish me luck!!! I am hoping to win if for around 1500. I know its a long shot but it's all I got right now lmao.
My only saving grace:
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This thing has not one straight piece on it! Unfortunately I cannot use the seats but I will live. If I can get it for the price I want I will be happy.

quickkris2006 11-02-2010 09:37 PM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 
good luck that site is a pain in the a$$

ShMaCk2004 11-02-2010 11:24 PM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 
Its a 6 speed i can see the shifter. the clutch cyl is tucked under the cowl thats why you cant see it. I used the 4th gen tank and fuel lines on mine I thing its a good idea to use them if you have them and they are easy to get in. I wish I took the brakes off the 4th gen donor when i had it :doh: oh well...
If you need some help with it just hit me up cuz we are pretty close to each other.

Heres a list of what I used from the 4th gen donor I had:

Motor and trans...Duh
Radiator
Cooling Fans
Drive Shaft
Gas tank
Fuel Lines
Clutch Master Cyl
Wire Harness
PCM
Some other random wiring and connectors
Radiator hoses
Gauge cluster
Dash wiring
Exhaust manifolds

I say use EVERYTHING you can off the 4th gen and sell whatever is left thats is good. I made my harness with the 4th gen and 3rd gen harness so I can help you there too.

Now im planning a LSx swap for my 95 Tahoe so im on the hunt for a 5.3 or 6.0 for the right price lol.

JTNKTZ 11-03-2010 11:47 AM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 
Ended up going for 2400. Still a great price for both LS1 and T-56. But I can't afford it right now. Coulda sold the headers SLP lid spoiler and all that kind of stuff and lowered it down to probably a 1500 dollar build but oh well.

quickkris2006 11-03-2010 11:52 AM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 
that sucks man... i really wanted that DRIVER side interior door panel too lol

JTNKTZ 11-03-2010 12:01 PM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 

Originally Posted by quickkris2006 (Post 4724415)
that sucks man... i really wanted that DRIVER side interior door panel too lol

Lmao. They'll be other ones. I still have a lot of **** to sel, about 1000 dollars worth of stuff plus my dad owes me 1300 so I will get there jus slowly. Lol

quickkris2006 11-03-2010 12:19 PM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 
gatta love when parents owe the kids money.. my dad owe me about 10k.. would be nice to get that in one large sum but ill probably never see it..even tho when ever we owe then money they want it back asap but when they owe us... we get it when we get it lol i could get a brand new gm crate motor with that !!

JTNKTZ 11-09-2010 10:57 AM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 
Just to keep thisthread alive here are some pictures :P
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quickkris2006 11-09-2010 11:06 AM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 
i didnt realise the white camaro was a stick???? how can i never find one and u have 2??

ShMaCk2004 11-09-2010 12:39 PM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 
lol the only reason its a stick cuz thats my old 5 speed.

JTNKTZ 11-09-2010 08:54 PM

Re: 1991 Camaro RS LS1/T56 Swap Thread
 

Originally Posted by quickkris2006 (Post 4730187)
i didnt realise the white camaro was a stick???? how can i never find one and u have 2??




Originally Posted by ShMaCk2004 (Post 4730263)
lol the only reason its a stick cuz thats my old 5 speed.

What he said. Converted to 5 speed :P


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