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Cosmik Debris 06-26-2013 10:37 PM

boost control on a centrifugal supercharger
 
Has anyone here tried over-driving a supercharger and then using an electronic boost controller and some sort of valve like a wastegate on a turbo, to control the boost? It'd give a flatter boost like a centrifugal supercharger with a constant speed drive.

Street Lethal 06-27-2013 05:05 AM

Re: boost control on a centrifugal supercharger
 
That is very common nowadays. There was a Mustang article a few years back that essentially started the concept with a guy doing that very thing with a worked SBF running a YSI (see below), although it was already known that you could do that, it somewhat glorified it for the street racers. I know a few guys that run a Procharger F2 on their smaller LSX engines with the wastegate on the cold side, and it works extremely well...

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...l/viewall.html

Cosmik Debris 06-27-2013 05:36 PM

Re: boost control on a centrifugal supercharger
 
Thanks, I guessed it was possible and if it's possible someone will have tried it.

FSTFBDY 07-05-2013 12:16 PM

Re: boost control on a centrifugal supercharger
 
yep.. heres a good read also

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...tegate_debate/

lb9 GTA 07-05-2013 08:25 PM

Re: boost control on a centrifugal supercharger
 
ProCharger just came out with basically an electronic variable over/underdrive to have some control of the boost.

fasteddi 07-05-2013 10:00 PM

Re: boost control on a centrifugal supercharger
 
Nice. I know I just learned something. Thanks for sharing the link.

kill4thril 08-14-2013 06:25 PM

Re: boost control on a centrifugal supercharger
 
I liked this idea I believe he said he got 70ft/lbs more out of the car

http://www.superchevy.com/technical/...ger_wastegate/

HP52TA 01-13-2014 10:19 PM

Re: boost control on a centrifugal supercharger
 
Sorry to bring up this old thread, but I have been researching this type of install and have a question about sizing of the wastegate itself.

Seems there are only theories and no solid calculations to be performed, especially when one is used with a supercharger. From what I have found so far, it is essentially based on the amount of boost you need to release and the size of the engine itself, but haven't found any solid method to use in determining what the correct size that would be needed. Some charts give the option of 44 to 60 mm for greater than 3000cc, but I would like to be a little more accurate than that.

Are there any calcs a guy can follow, or is it just a WAG?

DIGGLER 01-14-2014 11:40 AM

Re: boost control on a centrifugal supercharger
 

Originally Posted by HP52TA (Post 5697698)
Sorry to bring up this old thread, but I have been researching this type of install and have a question about sizing of the wastegate itself.

Seems there are only theories and no solid calculations to be performed, especially when one is used with a supercharger. From what I have found so far, it is essentially based on the amount of boost you need to release and the size of the engine itself, but haven't found any solid method to use in determining what the correct size that would be needed. Some charts give the option of 44 to 60 mm for greater than 3000cc, but I would like to be a little more accurate than that.

Are there any calcs a guy can follow, or is it just a WAG?

if you had flow data for the blower and flow data for the gate i would assume you could calculate how much you could bleed through the gate and what you would wind up putting into the intake.... and if you know those numbers along with a dyno graph of your engine, you could get a rough estimate of what power it might be making at a given rpm.
-in theory.


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