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84TransAm383 04-13-2012 12:14 AM

manual steering
 
What manual steering fits into the third gen. I no the s10 just not exactly sure of the years. trying to do the cheaper swap to get it rolling before dropping it on a flaming river

jbenge 04-13-2012 06:15 AM

Re: manual steering
 
I bought a rebuilt one from one of the local auto parts stores, I asked for one for a 85 S-10. I know there were some small variations between years but the one I got for a 85 S-10 fit perfect.

AlkyIROC 04-13-2012 07:06 AM

Re: manual steering
 
84+ S10 box. You need the steering box with the 4 bolt top cover.

84TransAm383 04-13-2012 09:46 PM

Re: manual steering
 
everywhere i go to try and order a reman cant order them or even locate one. It seems i have to go to a salvage yard

J-(Chicago) 04-14-2012 12:35 PM

Re: manual steering
 
Do the manual s10 boxes use a power steering pitman arm?!?!

I had to make my own since the splines were different on the box that I used.
http://classicoldsmobile.com/forums/...mansplice1.jpg

AlkyIROC 04-14-2012 02:17 PM

Re: manual steering
 
The early box with the 3 bolt top cover is not a direct swap. The input and output shafts are smaller. If you use the late model 4 bolt top cover box, it's a direct swap with the same size shafts. The S10 pitman arm is a slightly different length which will change your steering geometry but many people still use it with no problems. With the late model box, you can simply pull the pitman arm off your power box and install it on the manual box to maintain the correct steering geometry.

speedpower09 10-15-2012 07:07 AM

Re: manual steering
 
Ok I was just wondering why would you swap a power steering box for a manual one?
Would this be for drag racing or road racing

AlkyIROC 10-15-2012 07:11 AM

Re: manual steering
 
Drag racing for weight reduction. You need a quicker ratio and faster response of power steering for road racing.

Maria8 10-21-2012 07:49 PM

Re: manual steering
 
how much weight will the s-10 box help you loose?

mcbchild 10-22-2012 03:34 PM

Re: manual steering
 
If you are even considering any type of street driving with turns, don't even switch out to manual as the weight reduction is not worth it for street driving. You basically are removing the weight of the power steering pump, brackets and hoses.

This is a great step though for drag racing as I have tried it myself with the s10 box, but did some street driving and trying to make a turn to get into my garage was too much, so I switched back to the PS setup.

Maria8 10-22-2012 03:40 PM

Re: manual steering
 
thanks for sharing your experience.

4lnkdSupra 11-09-2012 01:31 AM

Re: manual steering
 
What kmember will the s10 rack fit??

AlkyIROC 11-09-2012 12:58 PM

Re: manual steering
 
S10 doesn't use a rack. It uses a standard GM steering box that bolts to the frame just like a power box.

4lnkdSupra 11-09-2012 05:28 PM

Re: manual steering
 
I guess thats why they call it a pinto rack on kmembers?

AlkyIROC 11-09-2012 10:06 PM

Re: manual steering
 
Pinto and Mustang II are the 2 most common choices. The aftermarket choices are generally based off the Pinto design.


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