Most Powerful 305 Iam looking to build a 305 for my bracket car. right now i run in 14s but with my new combo iam looking to get in the low 12s on motor and high 11s on nitrous. What are the most powerful and relaible combos out there? Do you guys runs lighten cranks, aluminum rods, what heads are the best, do you use the stock pistons? ANY infomation on this would be awsome, it will help me choose my combo! THANKS SBS Motorsports |
Re: Most Powerful 305 Why a 305? |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by Apeiron
(Post 3443063)
Why a 305? but to answer the poster's question. there is a guy on here with a white sportcoupe camaro that runs those exact times with a 305, im sure someone will chime on with his name. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 Yea, unless your running 500 plus ci, you're really limited the power potential. Sarcasm off. There's a guy on here in the 12's with a 305. I'm looking for his name, I can't remember it. Its a white sportcouple w/ fat rubber on the back. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 I remember an article in a Chevy mag once where they took a fourth gen, built a nice 302 for it (I can't remember what gen motor they built off) and ran it against a stock Z28. The 302 beat the pants off the Z28 - lots of potential in any motor, it all depends how you build it. |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by ecetim
(Post 3443100)
I remember an article in a Chevy mag once where they took a fourth gen, built a nice 302 for it (I can't remember what gen motor they built off) and ran it against a stock Z28. The 302 beat the pants off the Z28 - lots of potential in any motor, it all depends how you build it. |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by 8T9 BANDIT
(Post 3443109)
:iagree: why cant other memebers understand that? there is actually a thread, it might be in the tpi forum called fastest 305 tpi's and there is more than 1 in the 12's and a good number of 13 sec lb9's my goal is a 12.7 after the procharger goes in.. |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by 8T9 BANDIT
(Post 3443090)
why is there always some {edited by mod - Board rules violation} that has to ask that question? |
Re: Most Powerful 305 Mwnova66 is the guy with the white sports coupe. He's got a somewhat mild setup, 113 heads I think, magnum 280H cam. Tim Burgess had a really hot TPI 305. With nitrous it was in the high 11's. If you're doing bracket racing, look up mod313 I think his name is. He's got a 305 bracket racing car that's in the 10's I think. That's a full on race car though, not street legal, etc etc. I'm surprised so many people came out of the woodwork to support building a 305. That's not the norm around here. As mentioned, a 350 will get to that 12 second timeslip cheaper and easier. Or a 400 or.... Unless you're in a class where you need to use 305 cubes type of deal. Then again those people usually don't come onto an internet forum and ask an extremely vague question like this..... *cough*. PS - Aluminum rods - make sure you know exactly how long these last. I think it's measured in passes on the dragstrip, not highway miles, and it's not a 3 digit number type of thing. |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by Apeiron
(Post 3443132)
Because if the stated intent is to go fast, then the best return on investment is not a 305. Yes, you can build a fast 305, but you will never, ever be faster than you would have been if you spent the same money on a 350. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 Yes, but his current 14s are adequate for bracket racing. I'd prefer to hear him express his own reasons for wanting a 305 instead of speculating. |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by Apeiron
(Post 3443172)
Yes, but his current 14s are adequate for bracket racing. I'd prefer to hear him express his own reasons for wanting a 305 instead of speculating. ---------- im gonna stop now, i dont want to p-off anymore moderators.. sorry:) |
Re: Most Powerful 305 No, it was a reply to your question as to why people question 305 builds. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 Actually sometimes its cheaper to build a 305. Lets say that you already have a 305 in your car, and lets say that its in great condition. Why take it out if its working great?? Thats my main dilema. I had a built 350 sitting on my porch for my previous car, and than I bought a car with a brand new Jasper 305 with oil pressure to put a smile on your face. I got rid of the 350 because I didn't need it. Now, if you have a good 305 you are already half way there instead of buying a 350. Put in a cam, good valve train and you have a smoking motor. The biggest problem with 305 is shrouding. Still, if you get some good heads the potential is there. Sure, the 350 would be faster for same amount spent, but you see 350 in every car now a days. 305 on the other hand is something you can brag about. I've seen waaay to many 305's "that could" that I am not believing every Joe telling me that a 350 is the way to go. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 There's nothing wrong with a 305, I have one in one of my cars. I have no plans to ever change it out. However, there's a difference between running a 305 because you already have it and you don't care about absolute performance, and explicitly choosing a 305 block as the base for building an entirely new performance engine. As soon as you're planning something that involves changing bottom end components and performance is your goal, the 350 is the economical choice. For that matter, even in a 350 block if you're replacing bottom end parts for a performance build, then a 383 is more cost effective. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 I gotta agree with Apeiron here. Sure, you can make a 305 go fast, it's been done before, and Matt's camaro was done primarily through weight reduction and suspension mods. But bottom line is there's really no benefit going with a 305 over a 350. It's not like it's more cost effective either, as the same parts will bolt right over, you are paying the same for a 350 part that you are for a 305 part. It's not like choosing between a 350 and a 427, where big block parts are twice the cost of small block parts. At that point the price/performance ratio is worth taking into effect, but not when comparing a 305 to a 350. Basically, if you are willing to shell out thousands to build a 305 that you already own a fast motor, then you sure have the extra few hundred for a 350 block and machine work involved with it, so why not just do it? |
Re: Most Powerful 305 The reason why i want to build a 305 over a 350 is, that every bracket car you see out there has a 350 or bigger, and i want to prove that there is a good amount of performance in a 305. And if you follow the ENGINE MASTERS CHALLENGE, there are two 305 in there that i say that have a chance to win cuz i think the 305 can make the power in the lower to mid rpm range while others struggle? Thats my opinon though. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 The powerband of an engine is a function of cylinder head flow and cam profile, and has little to do with displacement. The Engine Masters Challenge is a competition for street engines, not racing engines, scored by the sum of average torque and horsepower per cubic inch, over a fixed RPM range from 2,500 to 6,500 RPM, and is limited to engines of stock displacement (no 383s, no 434s, etc.), with limited static compression. These restrictions are to level the playing field, and are the only reason that a 305 has any hope of competing. If it was a truly open-ended competition to make the best power, it would be full of 14:1 572 cubic inch big blocks turning at 9,000 RPM. If you look at the absolute performance numbers of a 305 in the competition, they're actually pretty meagre, and wouldn't be able to push your car into 11s. If you want to build a fast 305, then it's done the same way as any other chevy. Power comes from the heads so get the best you can, but your choices will be limited by what size valves you can resonably fit in a 305's bore. Pick the biggest cam you can that won't exceed the flow capacity of the heads. Choose pistons to bump the compression up, choose a set of rods to handle the power level that you'll realistically be making, balance the crank, and spin it as high as your heads and cam will let you. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 I had a 305tpi. I knew that wasn't the best and fastest around but..... If you want to bracket race it and keep up with the big boys, then put the nitrous to it and run it till it blows. Then transfer all the parts over to a bigger engine(like I did) To each his own.:2cents: |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by Apeiron
(Post 3443562)
... If you want to build a fast 305, then it's done the same way as any other chevy. Power comes from the heads so get the best you can, but your choices will be limited by what size valves you can resonably fit in a 305's bore. ... And, as Aperion stated; no matter what you do, if you bolted the identical parts to a 350, you will have more power & torque than when they are on a 305 by simple fact of the bigger displacement. And, similarly building a 383 over a 350 (if you need to replace the stock crankshaft in the 350). But, before you guys start jumping on Aperion who asked a very simple and valid question "Why a 305?", you need to realize Aperion is just trying to find out what the poster's real reason for building a 305. Aperion is knowledgeable and can help build quite a potent 305 if that is truly what the poster wants. There are plenty of valid reasons why a person may wish to build a 305 (like they wish to preserve a numbers matching rare car). Knowing those reasons is important if you wish to receive the best answer, especially when the person posting is new to TGO and none of us know them (yet). |
Originally Posted by 86 F-BIRD
(Post 3443506)
...And if you follow the ENGINE MASTERS CHALLENGE, there are two 305 in there that i say that have a chance to win cuz i think the 305 can make the power in the lower to mid rpm range while others struggle? The cost of being different is high on both ends - you spend a lot of money doing what others know isn't cost-efficient, then you get beat. Of course, in bracket racing it's consistency that matters (unless you're trying to get into an ET-limited class). But, you added to that - you said you wanted to be fast as well. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 this is what i mean,, the 305 vs 350 thing always comes up on these threads.. of course we all know more cubes = more power... why cant we answer this kids question, and help him build a tough 305 for his braket racing???????????? and if i recall corectlly the majority of thirdgens that were v8's had some sort of 305,, maybe thats why us " thirdgenner's" want to build nice 305's |
Re: Most Powerful 305 hey five 7 what did i say that was innapropriate?????? its a pretty WEAK move for you to penalize me for those words..?? well i guess its because u r a fairly new moderator,, and u need to use some of ur authority, it must make u fell like more of a man or something. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 :ban: If that's as helpful as you get to these boards 8T9 Bandit, you can just keep moving along. |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by Sonix
(Post 3445947)
:ban: If that's as helpful as you get to these boards 8T9 Bandit, you can just keep moving along. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 guess its because u r a fairly new moderator,, and u need to use some of ur authority, it must make u fell like more of a man or something. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 Once you get to the point of boring the block, using a 305 doesnt make much sense for any of the reasons listed above. If you want to... thats entirely your choice but from a pure $ to HP standpoint the 305 is a losing proposition. If you have one and you're using what you've got with just some bolt ons, nothing wrong with that. I have a s/c 305 and its fairly quick but if it ever blows I dont see the point in running another 305. For those in a money pinch the 305 is a nice option though because used 305's are dime a dozen and if you just drop one in (without rebuilding it) its a pretty cheap deal. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 madmax tell me more about youre 305 sc, i will be going the procharger route pretty soon. similar to 86z's setup,, whats r youre hp, tq #'s and e/t"s |
Re: Most Powerful 305 :driving: well I was looking through these post and I figured I would enter my 2 cents for what ever its worth .. you cant compare a 350 to a 305 and you cant compare a 327 to a 350 a 327 is a way to go for horspower but they are hard to find thats why most people build 350's ..in the end its all about what you want dont worry about what every one else thinks I love my motor I would never change it but I have thought about it before ..any way build that 305 and go find some one to race after you win you will smile all day trust me american muscle got to love it |
Re: Most Powerful 305 Yes, a 327 is a way to build horsepower. So is a 265, 283, 302, 305, 327, 350, 377, 383, 396, 400, 427 or 434. The 327 isn't "rare" at all though, most people just won't waste a perfectly good 350 block by building it as a 327. There's no "magic" in any combination of stroke and bore that can overcome a displacement deficit. With all other things equal a larger displacement absolutely, always, without any exception whatsoever makes more power than a smaller displacement. |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by hung4wheeler
(Post 3446097)
:driving: well I was looking through these post and I figured I would enter my 2 cents for what ever its worth .. you cant compare a 350 to a 305 and you cant compare a 327 to a 350 a 327 is a way to go for horspower but they are hard to find thats why most people build 350's ..in the end its all about what you want dont worry about what every one else thinks I love my motor I would never change it but I have thought about it before ..any way build that 305 and go find some one to race after you win you will smile all day trust me american muscle got to love it |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by 8T9 BANDIT
(Post 3446124)
there no better feeling than smokin a 350 and seeing the look on the guys face after u tell him ur running a 305:nod: |
Re: Most Powerful 305 I havent run the car at the track but once, best that day was a 13.8@104 with a 2.3 60' time at 7-8psi. I'm running 16ish psi now but no track runs. Figure its good for mid 12's +/- at this point. Given that its a used engine that I paid a couple hundred for and a used supercharger that was little more than a good pair of heads, I dont have much in it. Only good part about a 327 is it shares the same bore as a 350. Thats about where it ends. I'm sure though pretty soon we'll have someone chime in about a 302 and old school solid lifter and how much better those are too. Thats fine I guess, makes for easier pickins. |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by madmax
(Post 3446472)
... Only good part about a 327 is it shares the same bore as a 350. Thats about where it ends. I'm sure though pretty soon we'll have someone chime in about a 302 and old school solid lifter and how much better those are too. Thats fine I guess, makes for easier pickins. |
Originally Posted by 86 F-BIRD
(Post 3442903)
Iam looking to build a 305 for my bracket car. right now i run in 14s but with my new combo iam looking to get in the low 12s on motor and high 11s on nitrous. What are the most powerful and relaible combos out there? Do you guys runs lighten cranks, aluminum rods, what heads are the best, do you use the stock pistons? ANY infomation on this would be awsome, it will help me choose my combo!
Originally Posted by 86 F-BIRD
(Post 3443506)
The reason why i want to build a 305 over a 350 is, that every bracket car you see out there has a 350 or bigger, and i want to prove that there is a good amount of performance in a 305. To answer the request: Do that stuff. mw66nova used ported 113 aluminum heads, also lightened his car. They may not be the best heads, but they worked well for him. As for the statement: Don't presume it hasn't already been proven. It has. NHRA stock class 305's run in the 11's. Stock casting heads, no porting, stock compression, stock unported intake, q-jet, etc. Hardly streetable, but if that isn't important to you, then no problem. So, spend as much or more building it like a well-built 350, since building them is the same except for details such as pistons and balancing; get about 85% or less of the power as you would building that 350. Will it be faster than the typical stock-like 305? Sure. Will it be faster than 350's? Some of them, most likely. Oh, yeah, you said "reliable". Tweaked to the max engines don't qualify as "reliable", and if your goal is to be faster than fast 350's, then cross that piece off your list. A 305 that is as fast or faster than similar 350's will not be as reliable. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 Ok, first, a 302 and a 305 are wholly different beasts and the bore size is the big key between the two, if you don’t ‘get’ that, don’t bother reading on, you’ll just get mad/defensive… Well, we haven’t heard from the original poster, so I’m going to presume that he is just going on something he was told, or that he is still learning, more pointedly, I’m presuming some ignorance on his part because of the particular forum he has asked it in (as alluded to by our own prickly backed rat :) ). So let’s clear some air here shall we?
Originally Posted by 8T9 BANDIT why is there always some {edited by mod - Board rules violation} that has to ask that question? ... Weeeeeell…. 1. We have no idea what his goals, limitation and knowledge base are and without those we can not properly answer the question that was so vaguely asked. 2. Unless you HAVE to use a 305, once you hit any machining using one over a 350 is asinine. If the concern for the build is gas mileage you can pick the right cam for the 350 and (money being the same, I’m partial to mine) still smack down the similarly equipped/spent 305. Similar gas milage, better performance. I don't see any lure for a 305 other than for a table base, lawn decoration or a submerged fishing attraction. Once machine work needs to be involved it is more cost effective to turn that 305 into an arts and crafts project for the den/lawn/pond. I’ll add:
Originally Posted by five7kid The 305 vs. 350 discussion goes on ad nauseum. Those without a firm grasp on basic physics will try to tell you a 305 can be built to be just as fast as a 350. The two problems with that are: 1) power is produced by efficently pumping air & fuel in & out of the engine; and 2) the small bore of the 305 shrouds SBC head valves so that process will never be as efficient as it is with a 350's 4" bore...
Originally Posted by Red Devil Even stroked the 305 based applications still all suffer from shrouding. Dollar for dollar you'd get more out of a bigger bore 305 than the one you are stuck with. That's one of the reasons why the Mustang 302s respond so well when the 305s suck donkey balls. If you are going to do all the machine work et al still, you might as well spend another $50 and go with the 350 block. It will pay bigger dividends than most 305 nuthuggers will admit too. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 well from what the majority of these guys are saying on this thread.. unless u have a l98 equipped thirdgen.. you car sucks.. and is a slow p.o.s. with absolutely no potential. lg4 cars suck lo3 cars suck l69 car suck and lb9 are really bad i guess..i guess we should all sell our thirdgens because there slow. and because a couple guys on here five7kid, red devil.ect...say so. so dont make youre car faster with bolt on's and dont make it look pretty with new paint and wheels because according to these few guys the majority of our cars are useless.... wow i really feel bad for the guys in the restoration boards,, what the hell r they thinking restoring these **** boxes. on the other hand,,, im on this site because i love my t/a and im improving on its performance and looks.. because i want to. oh and a 12 sec 305 isnt so slow..in my opinion. |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by 8T9 BANDIT
(Post 3447140)
well from what the majority of these guys are saying on this thread.. unless u have a l98 equipped thirdgen.. you car sucks.. and is a slow p.o.s. with absolutely no potential. lg4 cars suck lo3 cars suck l69 car suck and lb9 are really bad i guess..i guess we should all sell our thirdgens because there slow. and because a couple guys on here five7kid, red devil.ect...say so. so dont make youre car faster with bolt on's and dont make it look pretty with new paint and wheels because according to these few guys the majority of our cars are useless.... wow i really feel bad for the guys in the restoration boards,, what the hell r they thinking restoring these **** boxes. on the other hand,,, im on this site because i love my t/a and im improving on its performance and looks.. because i want to. oh and a 12 sec 305 isnt so slow..in my opinion. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 To 86 Fbird. Dude- you sure opened Pandora's box here! I didn't know asking a specific question would invite so much controversy. Sure glad I'm building a L98 lol. Well I guess I should keep my big mouth shut since it's not a 383. Anyway good luck. Do what ever you want and I hope you get the answers you seek. I heard of a turbo build on a 28x cu small block pushing like 1,600 hp. The thing I like most about hot-rodding is putting your own thumb print on it. "Why" may be a relevant question if it's asked for the sake of answering your question and not being used as a club to beat you over the head with. The hell with the nay-sayers. Moderators or otherwise... |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by Sonix
(Post 3446011)
I was responding to that. That's rude. If you'd been here more than a few months you'd know how long Five7 "kid" has been a moderator. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 You said you were responding to Five7. Five7's been a mod as long as i've been here, so I can only assume longer as well. That's 2004 FYI. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 Am I the only one that wonders why so many people here cannot stay on topic? Its sad that a fellow member like 86 F-BIRD can ask a solid engine hop-up question and get hammered for it. Many people clicked on this thread hoping for decent replies, not cheap slams. Lets play pretend and substitute 350 for 305 in his question......then people could jump down his throat because he's "wrong" for not going 377, 383, 400, 406-----572 crate!!! Anybody besides me see a narrow-minded pattern here? No replacement for displacement, right? The 305 vs 350 debate will go on forever, so what? So will the Mustang vs Camaro debate (Camaros ARE better, of course). Competition and challenge is fun and enlightening, thats how we improve. All he did was throw a question out specific to his needs, looking for reasonable suggestions. He's decided he wants to build his 305, its his engine, get over it! If you have nothing to add because you don't know how to reply to the question, let it go. I imagine some of those that slam the 305 around here do so because it seems to be the easy, 'peer-pressure' thing to do, like 'herd-mentality'. Or maybe they just go with the majority because its safer than to risk being an individual and doing something because you want to, not looking for the safe approval of others as justification. Also, some of those that jump at the chance to slam fellow "3rd-gen" members might have little experience at small blocks and how they respond to coordinated mods. Instead, the thinking goes something like....... "this is junk because my buddys big-brothers-neighbors-friends said blah-blah-blah.....". Its seems lame for some moderators to chime in with stereo-typed swipes at honest, normal questions from members, the very folks they should defend and "watch-their-backs" so others don't stab them.............I thought they were the peace-keepers on boards like this, keeping people on topic with their "authority", not wise guys hiding behind their keyboards stirring the pot at others expense. Can't we all get along? (hehe) Cheers to those who actually answered his question at the risk of getting flammed, the rest of you, ................. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 It's a damn motor, not your child. Some of you people are taking this WAY too personally. An sbc is an sbc. A 4 inch bore has more potential, the 305's bore is a bottleneck. These two things will always be true. Ford 302s are fast because they have the same 4 inch bore as a 350. If you want to build a 305, go ahead. There's no good reason to use a 305 if performance is your objective, unless you already have one and it's a money issue. If you have the choice of either, the 350 is better for a performacne application. A 383 even better, but a 383 costs a little more for machining, and parts are a tad more expensive. A 305 and 350 COST THE SAME all else being equal, a 350 and a 383 do not. |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by InfernalVortex
(Post 3447460)
A 305 and 350 COST THE SAME all else being equal, a 350 and a 383 do not. |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by 8T9 BANDIT
(Post 3447140)
...so dont make youre car faster with bolt on's and dont make it look pretty with new paint and wheels because according to these few guys the majority of our cars are useless.... ....
Originally Posted by Red Devil 2. Unless you HAVE to use a 305, once you hit any machining using one over a 350 is asinine.
Originally Posted by 8T9 BANDIT hes been on here for a long while, he's only been a mod for a couple months.
Originally Posted by 1991 RS 305
(Post 3447346)
...Its sad that a fellow member like 86 F-BIRD can ask a solid engine hop-up question and get hammered for it.
Originally Posted by 1991 RS 305
(Post 3447346)
Lets play pretend and substitute 350 for 305 in his question......then people could jump down his throat because he's "wrong" for not going 377, 383, 400, 406-----572 crate!!! playing Let's pretend we don't want to waste time and money and listen to those who've done this a time or two before?
Originally Posted by 1991 RS 305
(Post 3447346)
Anybody besides me see a narrow-minded pattern here? No replacement for displacement, right?
Originally Posted by 1991 RS 305
(Post 3447346)
The 305 vs 350 debate will go on forever, so what? So will the Mustang vs Camaro debate (Camaros ARE better, of course). Competition and challenge is fun and enlightening, thats how we improve.
Originally Posted by 1991 RS 305
(Post 3447346)
All he did was throw a question out specific to his needs, looking for reasonable suggestions. He's decided he wants to build his 305, its his engine, get over it! If you have nothing to add because you don't know how to reply to the question, let it go.
Originally Posted by 1991 RS 305
(Post 3447346)
I imagine some of those that slam the 305 around here do so because it seems to be the easy, 'peer-pressure' thing to do, like 'herd-mentality'. Or maybe they just go with the majority because its safer than to risk being an individual and doing something because you want to, not looking for the safe approval of others as justification. Also, some of those that jump at the chance to slam fellow "3rd-gen" members might have little experience at small blocks and how they respond to coordinated mods. Instead, the thinking goes something like....... "this is junk because my buddys big-brothers-neighbors-friends said blah-blah-blah.....".
Originally Posted by 1991 RS 305
(Post 3447346)
Its seems lame for some moderators to chime in with stereo-typed swipes at honest, normal questions from members, the very folks they should defend and "watch-their-backs" so others don't stab them.............I thought they were the peace-keepers on boards like this, keeping people on topic with their "authority", not wise guys hiding behind their keyboards stirring the pot at others expense. Can't we all get along? (hehe) |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by bntyhntr00
(Post 3447537)
...Stop telling them what they should do and find out what they can do. |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by 1991 RS 305
(Post 3447346)
Am I the only one that wonders why so many people here cannot stay on topic? Its sad that a fellow member like 86 F-BIRD can ask a solid engine hop-up question and get hammered for it. Many people clicked on this thread hoping for decent replies, not cheap slams. Lets play pretend and substitute 350 for 305 in his question......then people could jump down his throat because he's "wrong" for not going 377, 383, 400, 406-----572 crate!!! Anybody besides me see a narrow-minded pattern here? No replacement for displacement, right? The 305 vs 350 debate will go on forever, so what? So will the Mustang vs Camaro debate (Camaros ARE better, of course). Competition and challenge is fun and enlightening, thats how we improve. All he did was throw a question out specific to his needs, looking for reasonable suggestions. He's decided he wants to build his 305, its his engine, get over it! If you have nothing to add because you don't know how to reply to the question, let it go. I imagine some of those that slam the 305 around here do so because it seems to be the easy, 'peer-pressure' thing to do, like 'herd-mentality'. Or maybe they just go with the majority because its safer than to risk being an individual and doing something because you want to, not looking for the safe approval of others as justification. Also, some of those that jump at the chance to slam fellow "3rd-gen" members might have little experience at small blocks and how they respond to coordinated mods. Instead, the thinking goes something like....... "this is junk because my buddys big-brothers-neighbors-friends said blah-blah-blah.....". Its seems lame for some moderators to chime in with stereo-typed swipes at honest, normal questions from members, the very folks they should defend and "watch-their-backs" so others don't stab them.............I thought they were the peace-keepers on boards like this, keeping people on topic with their "authority", not wise guys hiding behind their keyboards stirring the pot at others expense. Can't we all get along? (hehe) Cheers to those who actually answered his question at the risk of getting flammed, the rest of you, ................. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 RED DEVIL WRITES " ILL TAKE THAT FOX BODY PLEASE" I GUESS HE REALLY DOSENT CARE FOR THIRDGENS, WHY IS HE HERE?????? HE DOSENT EVEN LIST WHAT CAR HE OWNS? GO HOME RED DEVIL THIS ENTIRE WEBSITE IS FOR PEOPLE THAT LIKE THIRGEN F-BODY'S.. AND THAT WANT TO RESTORE, MODIFY, AND IMPROVE THEM.. WERE NOT ON HERE BUILDING PRO STREET MOTORS. WERE ON HERE RIDING AND RACING THE CARS WE LOVE.. IF U MORONS I MEAN MODERATORS AND WEIRDO'S WHO DONT LIST THERE CARS, CANT UNDERSTAND THAT.. THEN GET THE FUK OFF THIRDGEN.ORG... SO LETS ANSWER THIS KIDS QUESTION--- WHATS A GOOD COMBO FOR A 305 BRAKET RACING CAR. ----------
Originally Posted by bntyhntr00
(Post 3447537)
they only cost the same if you happen to own both blocks. The key to remember here is that I doubt that anybody on here has never heard of a 350. But I think that sometimes it is forgotten cars that we built on a shoestring budget that literally decided wether or not we ate for a few days. It's upsetting that the kid who asked the question hasn't come back. And that yet again another thread has been taken up by a debate that leaves potential questions about building a small displacement motor hidden away because of not wanting to be made to feel dumb, stupid or inexperienced. And I know some will say his question was vague but there are thousands of vague questions on here that get not one ounce of ridicule or even, though some may not believe it, a response that comes across as "the only stupid question is yours" How about asking the kid what kind of budget he has first? Why a 305? isn't going to get you the answers you want. And aside from the emotion that the dreaded 305 build question evokes there was nothing vague about "Iam looking to build a 305 for my bracket car" "What are the most powerful and relaible combos out there?" Stop telling them what they should do and find out what they can do. :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: |
Re: Most Powerful 305
Originally Posted by 8T9 BANDIT
(Post 3447586)
RED DEVIL WRITES " ILL TAKE THAT FOX BODY PLEASE" I GUESS HE REALLY DOSENT CARE FOR THIRDGENS, WHY IS HE HERE??????
Originally Posted by 8T9 BANDIT
(Post 3447586)
HE DOSENT EVEN LIST WHAT CAR HE OWNS?
Originally Posted by 8T9 BANDIT
(Post 3447586)
GO HOME RED DEVIL THIS ENTIRE WEBSITE IS FOR PEOPLE THAT LIKE THIRGEN F-BODY'S.. AND THAT WANT TO RESTORE, MODIFY, AND IMPROVE THEM.. WERE NOT ON HERE BUILDING PRO STREET MOTORS. WERE ON HERE RIDING AND RACING THE CARS WE LOVE..
Originally Posted by 8T9 BANDIT
(Post 3447586)
IF U MORONS I MEAN MODERATORS AND WEIRDO'S WHO DONT LIST THERE CARS, CANT UNDERSTAND THAT.. THEN GET THE FUK OFF THIRDGEN.ORG... :banned: Have fun in the McDonald's parking lot. |
Re: Most Powerful 305 Where the hell was anyone calling 305 thirdgens junk? WTF??? Man, people need to read and actually comprehend the words. This thread exemplifies why thirdgenners have the stereotype of being complete ****tards. |
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