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Reni-Camaro 02-12-2013 04:08 AM

XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 
I have LG4 305.

I want rebiuld him!

I use SEARCH and reade more Thread

I can not choose cam and intake.

My Camaro have:
-CR 9.5:1 (flat piston)
-T5
-3.42
-Holley 600cmf double pump
-long headers Hedman-68460
-heads '801 porting 1.84''/1.5''
-maybe rokers 1.6:1

I want low fuel consumption (city 20l/100km) and good idle, and fast car 1/4 (14s-15s) :D

What would be better for me? :help:
Edelbrock 7501 & XE262H or Edelbrock 2701 & XE256H

sorry my english :)

305sbc 02-13-2013 01:59 AM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 

Originally Posted by Reni-Camaro (Post 5487661)
Edelbrock 2701 & XE256H

This one.
The brand of intake does not have to be Edelbrock if you can find the same design from another source.

A good vacuum advance distributor will also help you with fuel mileage.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-8362/overview/

Reni-Camaro 02-13-2013 04:39 AM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 

Originally Posted by 305sbc (Post 5488566)
This one.
The brand of intake does not have to be Edelbrock if you can find the same design from another source.

Why ?

Big Dog Chevy 02-13-2013 09:11 AM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 
XE256 would give you enuff cam for what you want to do. Getting the heads to flow the best they can will get you more HP than the cam changes anyway. Also put 1.94" valves in the heads with a good 3 angle VJ, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE STRONGER VALVE SPRINGS, a real good exhaust system, and your tune has to be right. 12.8 afr and about 36-38 degrees timing. I've built many 305 combos over the years from 14 second cars to low 12 second cars. I have a current car that I built for my dad that runs 12.70s @ 106 mph.

305sbc 02-13-2013 11:16 PM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 

Originally Posted by Reni-Camaro (Post 5488592)
Why ?

The other choice has an air-gap design and more cam duration. That will sacrifice some street performance and fuel mileage, which is what you said you primarily wanted. The warmer intake and smaller cam duration is better suited to your application.

Reni-Camaro 02-14-2013 12:58 AM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 
Why not edelbrock ?
Meybe this intake http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...id=37199291170
or http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...d=310401843909

305sbc 02-15-2013 08:22 AM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 

Originally Posted by Reni-Camaro (Post 5489472)

Those intakes are both fine.
Edelbrock is fine too.
There's not a lot of difference between them.

Big Dog Chevy 02-15-2013 08:33 AM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 
Whatever manifold you get just make sure you notch the divider about a inch so that all four of the carb's bores are seeing both sides of the manifold. That will increase the flow of the carb to the engine but still keep the low end punch.

cuisinartvette 02-15-2013 08:40 AM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 
His motor might like the notch, some dont .
Id leave it so the intake pulls as hard on those boosters as it could. No spacer

Food for thought. :2cents:

Big Dog Chevy 02-15-2013 08:42 AM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 

Originally Posted by cuisinartvette (Post 5490471)
His motor might like the notch, some dont .
Id leave it so the intake pulls as hard on those boosters as it could. No spacer

Food for thought. :2cents:


That's true.

Reni-Camaro 02-15-2013 10:04 AM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 

Originally Posted by 305sbc (Post 5490461)
Those intakes are both fine.
Edelbrock is fine too.
There's not a lot of difference between them.

:thanks:



Originally Posted by cuisinartvette (Post 5490471)
His motor might like the notch, some dont .
Id leave it so the intake pulls as hard on those boosters as it could. No spacer

Food for thought. :2cents:

:huh: :huh: :huh:

Fast355 02-16-2013 11:53 PM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 

Originally Posted by Big Dog Chevy (Post 5488666)
XE256 would give you enuff cam for what you want to do. Getting the heads to flow the best they can will get you more HP than the cam changes anyway. Also put 1.94" valves in the heads with a good 3 angle VJ, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE STRONGER VALVE SPRINGS, a real good exhaust system, and your tune has to be right. 12.8 afr and about 36-38 degrees timing. I've built many 305 combos over the years from 14 second cars to low 12 second cars. I have a current car that I built for my dad that runs 12.70s @ 106 mph.

XE262 would be a better cam in a 305 and give up nothing to the XE256 above the stall speed of a decent converter.

12.8:1 is LEAN for todays fuels which are likely doused with ethanol.

36-38* of timing, you must be running sick compression ratios, with crappy quench and 350 smog heads. My Vortec/L98 head 305s like 26-32* of timing all the way past 6,500 rpm. Any more and I was losing power quickly.

Big Dog Chevy 02-18-2013 07:54 AM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 
[quote=Fast355;5491745]XE262 would be a better cam in a 305 and give up nothing to the XE256 above the stall speed of a decent converter.

12.8:1 is LEAN for todays fuels which are likely doused with ethanol.

36-38* of timing, you must be running sick compression ratios, with crappy quench and 350 smog heads. My Vortec/L98 head 305s like 26-32* of timing all the way past 6,500 rpm. Any more and I was losing power quickly

LOL, 12.8 to 1 is not lean at all. Most of my chevy combos make the most power with a 13.0-13.2 to 1 afr but that is a bit too lean for me on the street. You guys kill me when something works for one person and doesn't work for others. I've built 305 combos that's ran 12s and even built a 11 second strip car for a guy but I didn't get on here to prove to people what I have done or what I can do, I'm just tryin to help the OP. He is not building what you have built, he listed 801 heads not Vortecs, low fuel consumption not max HP, and a goal of 14 to 15 seconds in the 1/4 which is easy to do with a stock cam.

Reni-Camaro 02-21-2013 03:21 AM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 

Originally Posted by Big Dog Chevy (Post 5492678)
LOL, 12.8 to 1 is not lean at all. Most of my chevy combos make the most power with a 13.0-13.2 to 1 afr but that is a bit too lean for me on the street. You guys kill me when something works for one person and doesn't work for others. I've built 305 combos that's ran 12s and even built a 11 second strip car for a guy but I didn't get on here to prove to people what I have done or what I can do, I'm just tryin to help the OP. He is not building what you have built, he listed 801 heads not Vortecs, low fuel consumption not max HP, and a goal of 14 to 15 seconds in the 1/4 which is easy to do with a stock cam.

XE262H or XE256H :huh:

Big Dog Chevy 02-21-2013 07:32 AM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 
[quote=Reni-Camaro;5495326]XE262H or XE256H :huh:

Well this is my opinion, it seems to me like you want a nice fast car that you can drive when and where you want, easy to tune, get good mpg, and not be a headache on the street. 14-15 second car is pretty much what a bone stock 91 Formula 305 TPI 5pd ran on stock tires with only the rated 225 hp. With just your ported heads and the rest of your setup you can make way more power than that. Throw in the XE256 and you will make even more but it will be smooth and easy going on the street. The heads, exhaust and tune is the key to these motors. :2cents:

InfernalVortex 02-21-2013 01:39 PM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/h...pm_vs_air_gap/

The air gap intake will just warm up to engine temperature completely by the time the engine is warm anyway. If you buy it because it just looks awesome I wouldnt blame you. But dont expect more power out of it. There may be a little... but it aint much.

Reni-Camaro 02-21-2013 04:02 PM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 

Originally Posted by InfernalVortex (Post 5495711)
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/h...pm_vs_air_gap/

The air gap intake will just warm up to engine temperature completely by the time the engine is warm anyway. If you buy it because it just looks awesome I wouldnt blame you. But dont expect more power out of it. There may be a little... but it aint much.

:thanks: But


Originally Posted by Reni-Camaro (Post 5487661)
What would be better for me? :help:
Edelbrock 7501 & XE262H or Edelbrock 2701 & XE256H

2701 not rpm

305sbc 02-22-2013 03:03 AM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 

Originally Posted by Reni-Camaro (Post 5495820)
:thanks: But

2701 not rpm


The 2701 is EPS = Edelbrock Performer Series.
It is just fine for most 305 engines.

Since you have a manual trans you may notice a performance increase by
using the 7101 Performer RPM, but the difference will be pretty small if any. With larger engines or higher RPM application the 7101 will show larger gains.
The 7101 flange sits a little higher and so might cause a clearance issue.

Reni-Camaro 02-22-2013 04:59 AM

Re: XE256H or XE262H cam for 305?
 
7501 or 7101 I think will put a cam XE262H10.


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