two stangs and a thirdgen
 

so i'm heading to the coastguard station from my girls house the other night and two stangs roll up on me ones a 99+ gt and the other is a fox body lx 5.0 , knowin my rs 305 with my exhaust ,open elemnt and 180thermo, still aint gonna hang i pay no attention, so then they both cut in front and slow way down like they were about to race from a roll but they don't. we pick back up to bout 60mph and by now the fox is out in front just enough room for me to go around , so i drop down to fourth and floor it i swing around the foxbody who as i pass sees me and floors it but he was an automatic and i was already up to speed whatched him in my rearview mirror for a bit then he gave up and they both turned off the road, knowin theyd deffinatly get me in a real drag race i just thought it was appropriate for them to see some comaro tailights last night:D

:D sound sweet man, having some fun agianst Mustangs

dude even a 305 can take down most stangs when the stang is an auto, automatics and mustangs don't mix... sweet kill* :D

That's not fair man! you can't just take off before them and call it a kill, more like an offguard flyby. Wait, was the 99+ GT even racing or was just he foxbody racing?

well i dont remember saying it was a kill, nor a race, but no the 99+ stang didn't really do anything. which i found a bit odd. but hey i had fun.

Sorry, my bad rscoastie, i had just gotten used to hearing about these races that I just kind of automatically assumed the wrong thing. Do you think you could of hung with the GT if you had the headstart?

If it's TBI then it's really good you didn't race LOL.

What happened to you was a simple "lets punk the 3rdgen" scene lol.

4.6 mustangs are slow as piss stock.

the LX is a bad car with the 5.0 in it.

yeah i a tbi only had the maro for 5 weeks, even though its a tbi305 i dont mind a bit becuase its still fun as hell to run through the gears and play with other domestics even if i know they are faster .

the LX is a bad car with the 5.0 in it.


why would you say that? As much as i hate Mustangs those things can fly. Look at 25thMustangs 89 Lx 5.0. The damn thing runs 12s with bolt ons. Very Respectable #s.I wouldnt mess with his car on the streets. THe Auto ones yes there doggs, Fords never made great autos but the 5 speeds diff story. The LX is much lighter then a GT. So with 225hp 300Lbs of tq with 5 speed and light weight can go pretty good for stock. Now aftermarket parts are really good for FOX Bodies as well. What im hearing you dont even need to do much to them to hit low 1/4 times. I used to be like you think they were bad cars. I deff change my mind about them.

Fly-by's ---> Not Cool :doh:

A stunt like that would get you called out and put to shame on our local board.

Oh really?

Nic <---- stock '02 GT, tell me it's slow

I wonder what his response will be, if there is one?

A few quotes here I have to bring up...

Most? Id rephrase that...

Seen GT verts run 13s off the showroom floor, if thats slow, then you agree merely by opinion!

I assume you mis typed this, and meant it isnt a bad car with the 5.0 in it. If you didnt... Ill run you :D !

Nick418, I appreciate the compliments, glad my car can in some way show others what the potential is in these cars!

Its slow :p :D

I'd like to se a 4.6 GT, vert for that matter run a 13 stock where I live, that would be impressive & I would take it back, but they don't and I beat them so there lol. I have a video of me beating one in my old IROC if ya want to see it lol.

And yes I meant the 5.0 LX is a bad as in good car, lighter than the GT and a sleeper. I wouldn't mind owning one myself as a second car :). I also have a video of me racing a 5.0 GT modded out with my IROC and we ran even.

I'm still waiting...

www.Rihlmann.com

There is a 2002 GT vert in there. At Englishtown went 13.9 bone stock. Just because you didnt see it doesnt mean it hasent happened. You didnt see me run mid 12s with a bolt on car, but yet you believe it, right? I am all for beleiving times, and races and outcomes (like you beating the Mustangs, I dont need proof) just expect others to be the same!

not calling u a liar dude, just saying I haven't seen it in person. Thats cool though. what if it was on of those "special" blocks like what GM did with 1000th thirdgen or some crap about balancing the motor, what a bs crock LOL.

Thats like the Factory Freak stuff people say. To anyone who believes that, I would love to get their car and be able to run it some... I have confidence I could pull a 13.9 or better out of a new GT!

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its under construction 25th. Did you ever run your car bone stok at the tracks? If you did im jw what were your times?

Oops, I forgot hes making a new one...

As for mine, bone stock (i mean off the showroom floor) with an auto, 2.73 gears, and a crappy track went 15.3. Added gears, went 14.8. Then started on other mods and slowely went down!

Nic, your GT can't touch 100 traps and you boasting about it not being slow? Nice ET, but that trap leaves A LOT to be desired. 100mph traps on a modern performance car gets no respect anywhere these days. Not trying to bust your balls or anything, but 4.6 SOHC Stangs have a reputation much like we do.

Besides, he's probably referring to automatic 4.6s, and the earlier 96-98 at that.

85VortecTA - if you think the new 99+ manual trans GTs can't run 13s well driven, you're in need of a big wakeup call. Or you need to come down to sea level (no location?)

I was at the track last friday. I was hanging out with a kid with a 2002 GT bone stock automatic. He was running consistent 14.2's all night

My '03 GT 5-spd has run a best of 14.1 bone stock. That's stock mufflers and stock air filter. I've only been driving stick for a month now so i'm sure i'll get better with practice.

And if not, i got my 5.0 LX to fall back on :D

My GFs with exhaust and 3.73s went 14.0 @ 99 at 1800 feet elevation. Same day best I did was a 12.79 @ 105 (short belt and the 12.63 wasnt short belted). The autos suck, as now it is slipping really bad on her car with the more power!

3,600ft. above sea level bebe.

I race an 02 4.6 GT in the video I mentioned above.

slowely went down!


SLOWLY?!!! I thought you can slap on couple bolt ons to hit the 13s and 12s:D Nah im jk, You had an auto in your car? Is it standard or auto rite now? Also i was in My Jeep Tonite go tto my doctors appointment and bumped into a late 80s LX 5.0. It sounded sweet but had some major rust. Anyways the guy blew my doors away. COuldnt keep up with him. Those cars can move!

Also 25th weres kensignton Conneticutt? Is it near North of CONN near the MASS border? I live about less hour away from Conn, JW

It is dead center of the state!:D

Fly-by's ---> Not Cool



well when two stangs(or any car for that matter) swing in front of me and drop well under the speed limit and ive got some place to go, i have no shame.

now if i was to see some lonly stang cruisin and just hammer it and fly by well thats just not me. besides my camaro doesnt have a ridiculiously large alluminum wing altezza tailights fart can and huge ground effects its not capable of doing highspeed fly by's;)

I'm pretty content running 13.60's and trapping 98 - 99 in 1700ft density altitude. No, it's not astonishingly fast, but it's far from slow for a car that's still stock.

Got video proof? That corrects to somewhere around 13.40 at sea level. I've seen my fair share of newer GTs running in ideal conditions (some nights DA was negative) at both Cecil and Capitol. None were even close to low-mid 13s. The MPH seems about right for the car, but that ET is sounding a little fishy.

i dont believe a stock 2002 GT can do 13.6. Maybe i can see 13.9-14.3s at high 90s 97-99mph. Jmo tho , sorry NIC :cool:

Witnesses and a scanned timeslip. No video. Come out to the Mustang/F-body shootout at MIR next month and witness it first hand.

I mean look at a 245 345lb G92 L98 Camaro 90-92. They have 45lbs more torque then the GT and only have 15hp less. And they cant break into the 13s. Low to Mid 14s tho are there territory. But a New GT 2002 with 260hp and 300lbs of Tq cant break into the 13s stock. Yeah a couple mods it can easily hit it. Bone Stock no way i need a Video Proof.

So in other words, my lighter car (3360 with driver) with a manual trans that puts 15 hp less to the rear wheels (~230ish) than the heavier car with an automatic makes at the flywheel shouldn't be any faster? :doh: Someone forgot to tell that to the guy handing out timeslips at the track. You've apparently never seen one that's been driven right.

Hate to say it fellas...but he did run the time.

<shrug>

oh i read that they weighed around 3300-3400lbs..... You must be light then, or its BS what im reading

Scales at the track said 3400 with me in it originally. I'm guessing ~ 3360 after I pulled the spare tire and jack out the trunk. I weigh 130 lbs myself.

I'd like to get the weight down to about 3200 with me once my warranty is up.

Have any pics of your car??

Link in sig. I'm hoping to run some 13.0 - 13.2's with 4.10's and the new wheel/tire combination. (pray for good weather friday)

http://www.developyour.com/nic/small--Time_1363.jpg

Nice Mustang:D Did i just say that?:doh: Im jk, looks great Plus your from VA. Does your liscene plate by any chance have a "Y" or a "Z" on it. When i go down there (VA) i realized prob 95% of VA cars have either those two letters on there plate. Sorry bein off topic , ill shut my mouth :doh:

Nic, I give all my respect man because I haven't seen any guy with that car run times anywhere near close to that. It just shows how good of a driver you are compared to the average racer. Thanks for putting up the timeslip, I hope with that alot of the people who don't believe the potential of the GT's can change their opinion. One question. On your link in the sig, it says your hp to the flywheel is 271?? I thought they only had 260 to the crank?? correct me if i'm wrong, i was just curious.

i didn't do it

beer :doh:

That 1/8 time looks very good and the time with the 60' also looks goos. I would have expected a 1.8 60' with that time and mph!

Well, if it's legit, that is by far the quickest bone stock SOHC GT in the world! Are you suuuuuuurrrre it's bone stock? Mustangs guys use that "stock" term VERY loosely ;)

I thought the mythical 12 second untouched LS1 was impossible until just recently, so I guess anything is possible. But a SOHC GT running low 13s untouched is still a little hard to swallow, especially since most owner's of the same car call BS.

And just a little clarification... When you say radial, are you talking factory rubber or a nice wide BFG DR on a 15" wheel? I'm guessing that's what you're running judging by your pics. And I do not consider a large 15" rear wheel/tire with skinnies up front bone stock. In addition: 99 times out of 100 when you see a car with that wheel/tire setup, and they claim to be stock and their times prove otherwise, it ain't so.

I believe it to be stock minus the tires. I have seen enough 13.8-13.9s at 99-100 out of them, that one with a set of DRs and skinnies could see a mid to low 13. You figure 13.6 with DRs I could see Nics in the 13.8-13.9 range on the stock goodyears! As for the LS1 thing, I have never seen 12.9s out of one either, but will be the first to believe it...

i thought corvette LS1s run high 12s stock

Not on average... Id say low 13s on average. The one I remember racing went 13.8 best!

CORVETTE? OR F BODY? LS1? :huh:

Corvetter, I was only running 14.3s I think, and he went 13.8 best, 17.1 worst (went into the wrong gear and gave up). I know thye go faster, but this guy wasnt the best driver.

oh i see. It just shows you how much a driver can make a diffrence! My cousin added a couple of boltons to his 90 L98 and was hittin high 13s! Im still pissed he junked that car:doh:

I agree, all about the driver!

Anyone who's local is more than welcome to take a look at the car. JT (torchTA) knows me pretty well and can vouch for the fact that it's stock. I doubt I'll ever be racing anyone on here for money, so no need to play that game.