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Meatwad 06-30-2005 12:19 AM

Got beat by a Viper GTS
 
Was with a friend in his thirdgen (saw it go 12.26)

Viper was on toll road and he floored it and got a good 2 cars on the guy before the viper hit the gas....he took us like we were standing still.....most amazing thing I have ever seen. (most horrible sound I have ever heard though)

Viper started wobbling after he got past us and he tapped the brakes to get it back (we had the speedo pegged past 85)

The guy turned at the same exit we did and we got beside him at a light. (Not trying to stalk the guy either) We ask him what he ran in the 1/4mile and he said "10" (just 10) we said what do you have? He said "I have more in my tires than you do in your piece of ****" and made a right on red and nearly went over the median sliding.

What a jerk, heck his exhaust tone reminded me of a backfiring diesel. What suprised me is his driving skill, seemed like he was showing off and couldn't drive the beat.

What a pretty car, but what a prick in the seat. Are a lot of viper owners like this from you guys experience?

I have never in my life seen a car go that fast...

25thmustang 06-30-2005 12:27 AM

As sad as it sounds, Id laugh if he made fun of the car you were in. Its the sad truth, to him any car not a Viper or better is a POS. And the fact he just wiped the floor with your car (after you guys instigated it) just made it that much easier for him. Now in the end he is a prick, and has a fast car merely because he can afford to, not because of anything more than money (unlike the rest of us that work for and build our cars) so feel good about that (or tell your friend to).

Pricks will be pricks, I personally dont give them the pleasure of beating me! :D

dr1 06-30-2005 12:30 AM

i see a few around here, only once ever saw one take off though.. it was great :D
the corvette owners are the best.. slowest drivers ever, understandbly but makes me sad anyways

id race one, just to try and get him to floor it, i love seeing them do what they were built for :D

Meatwad 06-30-2005 01:01 AM


Originally posted by 25thmustang
Its the sad truth, to him any car not a Viper or better is a POS. And the fact he just wiped the floor with your car (after you guys instigated it) just made it that much easier for him.
I know what your saying, but he can't drive it very well :)

I don't know how I would do given a car with that much power, but geez he made himself look novice with all that sliding and highspeed wobbling :)

Gr89RS 06-30-2005 01:45 AM

I see at least two or three of those things every time i head down to the beach down here. Unlike the ferraris and stuff that are around these guys seem to punch it more and i agree they sound like big steaming piles of :bs:

Marc 85Z28 06-30-2005 03:37 PM

He's got a true high performance car, that's highly respected on the streets by everyone because its a quick car by almost anyone's standards. He destroyed a car that's 15 years older, in nowhere near as good condition, and doesn't have such a great street reputation. What did you expect him to do? Congratulate you on your loss? What would you say to a mid 70's Toyota that you just demolished in your 3rd gen - Hey nice car?!

Additionally, if he beat you as bad as you say, with you having a headstart in a low 12 second car, he may well have had a 10 second car. There are blown Vipers around here that are just nasty. Traction begins at 80, and is still a gamble til 100mph. Sliding around may have nothing to do with his driving ability...

Mcdamit 06-30-2005 10:22 PM

yeah f-bodies really aren't respected on the streets, which sucks because at one point these cars to alot of people were Legends. Now they are musty tired old thirdgens, But the same goes for the late model c3's and all the c4's. Especially considering at one time tpi cars commanded LS series respect. Nice fast car meatwad.

urbanhunter44 06-30-2005 10:37 PM


Originally posted by Marc 85Z28
He's got a true high performance car, that's highly respected on the streets by everyone because its a quick car by almost anyone's standards. He destroyed a car that's 15 years older, in nowhere near as good condition, and doesn't have such a great street reputation. What did you expect him to do? Congratulate you on your loss? What would you say to a mid 70's Toyota that you just demolished in your 3rd gen - Hey nice car?!

Additionally, if he beat you as bad as you say, with you having a headstart in a low 12 second car, he may well have had a 10 second car. There are blown Vipers around here that are just nasty. Traction begins at 80, and is still a gamble til 100mph. Sliding around may have nothing to do with his driving ability...

Yup. If you've ever driven a car with 700+ ponies, you'll understand that traction is not a given until you're going very high speeds.

Most boosted Viper's I see put down at LEAST 800 hp. I don't think I've ever seen one with less.

Mike-in-Orange 06-30-2005 11:21 PM

You know what? I don't care what he was driving or what you were driving, there's just no excuse for someone to be a prick and insult someone else's car. I hate sore losers, but sore winners are even worse, and it sounds like the Viper driver was just that. I've talked to the Viper guys that hang out at Cali Speedway on street legal drag nights, and they're pretty cool guys, even the one with the blown Viper (dude trailers in it on behind a customized Hummer!)

I don't care how fast you are, there is always someone faster. There's just no reason to be a prick unless someone gets in your face no good reason. Sounds to me like Meatwad was just trying to start a conversation with the guy and did not deserve the response he got. It isn't the car (there are jerks in Thirdgens, Ferraris, and Kias), it's the jerk behind the wheel.

25thmustang 06-30-2005 11:33 PM

Mike good point, but then you hate over half the guys on this site, who would race an import, and proceed to rag on the car because it isnt as good as a thirdgen. I see it too much, hot shots in thirdgens and Mustangs beating imports, and acting the same as the Viper owner, then posting it online and getting 50 other Mustang or Fbody owners to congratulate them. The only difference is I doubt the Viper owner goes online and posts about it, as Im sure to him beating a lowly 12 second car is nothing special! Before you hate on prick Viper owners, remember, the same can be said for a LOT of thirdgen and Mustang guys out there!

Mike-in-Orange 06-30-2005 11:45 PM


Originally posted by 25thmustang
Mike good point, but then you hate over half the guys on this site, who would race an import, and proceed to rag on the car because it isnt as good as a thirdgen. I see it too much, hot shots in thirdgens and Mustangs beating imports, and acting the same as the Viper owner, then posting it online and getting 50 other Mustang or Fbody owners to congratulate them. The only difference is I doubt the Viper owner goes online and posts about it, as Im sure to him beating a lowly 12 second car is nothing special! Before you hate on prick Viper owners, remember, the same can be said for a LOT of thirdgen and Mustang guys out there!
I hope I understand your comment correctly and that you aren't actually implying that I really hate over half the guys on this site - 'cause that isn't so. I'm not hating on the prick Viper owner, I'm just hating on the prick, no matter what he drives!

And don't be too quick to think that Viper owner didn't go online to tell the guys on "his" forum about the "punk in the crappy Firebird who thought he could take me". If he was enough of a prick to make the comment about the price of his wheels, he was probably enough of a prick to post about it.

And Meatwad, please understand I'm not saying your car is a "crappy Firebird"!

urbanhunter44 07-01-2005 12:29 AM

Alot of people are just jerks when they have money. Usually the cool rich guys are the ones that weren't always rich. I have a guy that I regularly deliver for at work that always tips really well, and we shoot the sh*t about cars alot, and he even told me that he knew what it was like to work his *** off. Those are the cool rich guys.

Sounds like the viper guy in this story was just a dork-off that had more brawn than brain.

kylez28 07-01-2005 01:47 PM

This reminds me of a time I was with a friend in his 2000 camaro z28 with an FM14 cam and a bunch of other goodies(including n20), and we pulled up next to about a 1996-1997 dodge viper at a stop light(and i rarely see these things ever). I go "wanna run'em," and the Viper owners goes "whats that thing run 13s? hahahaah." So my buddy goes "yep, lets go anyways." So the light turns green and we whipped his *** by a good distance and he said "I couldn't hook up let's go again from a roll." So we do it from about a 25 mph roll and kicked his *** again and he wouldn't even look at us and he turned off and floored it away. It was one of the best moments in my life LOL.

kylez28 07-01-2005 01:47 PM

This reminds me of a time I was with a friend in his 2000 camaro z28 with an FM14 cam and a bunch of other goodies(including n20), and we pulled up next to about a 1996-1997 dodge viper at a stop light(and i rarely see these things ever). I go "wanna run'em," and the Viper owners goes "whats that thing run 13s? hahahaah." So my buddy goes "yep, lets go anyways." So the light turns green and we whipped his *** by a good distance and he said "I couldn't hook up let's go again from a roll." So we do it from about a 25 mph roll and kick his *** again and he wouldn't even look at us and he turned off and floored it away. It was one of the best moments in my life LOL.

DARCOM 07-01-2005 10:35 PM

im not rude whin im in my viper .but after awile you get a lot of people wanting to race , and it happends all the time even whin im just going to the store ,so i may enore people sometimes but thats about as rude as i get ,well unless your a hot chick then im not rude at all and i might say hi.

you can see my car at:
http://darcom.org

cali92RS 07-01-2005 10:45 PM

I wish I was a prick Viper owner...

Mcdamit 07-02-2005 12:06 AM

nice car darcom, well you drive a turdgen so you cant be much of a prick.

jocww 07-02-2005 12:52 AM

pricks are the best to kill off cuz you know your the better person. and getting sideways on a viper is easier to do than going in a strait line its like you have to have your foot on the brake and slip the clutch. thats what happens with 800+hp:D

1989GTATransAm 07-02-2005 10:42 AM

There was one at California Raceway recently and he could not hook up for nothing. His ET was around 13.00 seconds but his MPH was around 115. I would have beat him to the 1/4 mile mark but anything longer and he would have killed me let alone from a roll on the highway. :D

jocww 07-02-2005 11:31 AM

so were you expecting to win?:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :nod: :nod:

87TPI350KID 07-02-2005 09:30 PM

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Dollar for dollar, the camaro won.:thumbsup:

Viper's are over rated.

leeperryracing 07-02-2005 09:43 PM

i'd take my chances with one.

Meatwad 07-04-2005 01:09 AM

I guess I can understand why the guy was short, I'm sure he gots all kinds of guys trying to race him. But seriously I don't talk down to imports if I kill them even if they have the unbeatable cocky know-it-all attitude. I just give the thumbs up and enjoy my racing chest and shakey hands. I don't know what it is about racing- the rush, the accomplishment of doing a good job, or the neverending battle to have the best...but I like it...I find it more satisfying than sex :doh: and to have someone to ruin your mood with a comment is :bs: .

Even with my bad wrench skills I still respect everyones personal taste for their vehicle that best defines them, rather it is an import with neons or an old rust bucket with rims and tinted windows with a stereo that makes you sick to sit beside.

I'm done with my ranting, but I had a recent run in with a guy in a Mercedes that called me white trash (well he yelled into his phone "SOME WHITETRASH #### NEXT TO ME HAS HIS STEREO UP") when I was listening to some metal somewhat loud (I honestly didn't think it was overly loud) on my semi stock system. The guy was on his cellphone in the passenger seat sporting a fancy suit and I guess he didn't like Slipknot :) I gave him that look that I was going to rip his head off and started to get out of the car but the light turned green. At least he had a paniced look and rolled his window up :thumbsup: I have a short temper with people like that.....

Okay enough of this post :)

25thmustang 07-05-2005 12:48 AM

More satisfying than sex... umm...


Anyway, Im implying that MOST american car owners talk down to import owners and get that same cocky attitude the Viper guy had. They feel they are better because they drive the more race oriented car! They wonder why people waste their time with slow imports and it works the same with the Viper owner!

jocww 07-05-2005 10:31 PM

Im one of those that talks down to the ri cer s not to the tuners tho just the silly little boys. do i expect to get talked down to viper owners... hell no reason why i dont try to race them i know theyre at least a 4 car length gap between us i only race those i know i will beat and those that will be close, its like racing a m5 when you have a stock 318i or racing a z06 with a stock l98 there is no way in hell that you will win if the driver knows anything about driving.

nick418 07-06-2005 08:42 PM

I did a Inspection on a 1996 Viper GTS the other day, i talked to the guy, he seemed like a really nice guy with his little son in the passenger seat

2QUIK4U 07-07-2005 12:58 AM


Originally posted by jocww
its like racing a m5 when you have a stock 318i or racing a z06 with a stock l98 there is no way in hell that you will win if the driver knows anything about driving.
allow me to retort...... I smoked a ZO6 with just a 150 shot and some other cheap tricks.


I would race a viper from a dig anyday. How many vipers on the street are modded???? I doubt anymore than 1 outta 10. That John Hennesy is a real anal-rententive prick. It was probably him who was driving the 10 second Viper you raced. He had a leaf blower blowing off the track, and ice on his intercooler when Motor Trend tested his best car...

i resent the fact that 3rd gens are not respected on the street. Its sad to think that the stereotype of us is the ******-cut dude in a beater f-body. I say build what you got. If you got money.... go big. If you have a budget...build the car you have into your own form of self expression, which is much more satisfying than buying the "best"......
btw: ******s are cool:D

2.73's Suck 07-07-2005 09:47 PM

No matter what, Vipers still sound like ***:D

nick418 07-08-2005 12:56 AM


Originally posted by 2.73's Suck
No matter what, Vipers still sound like ***:D

i think they dont sound to bad. Could sound better for a V10. But i dont think they sound like "***"

2.73's Suck 07-08-2005 07:19 AM

Yea they dont sound that bad. I was hoping to make the original poster feel a little better. He can definatly say his car sounded cooler while he was losing:p

stu 07-08-2005 03:06 PM

All it takes is a cross pipe for a Viper to sound normal.

urbanhunter44 07-08-2005 04:02 PM

Yeah, with an H pipe they actually sound pretty damn wicked. But with the stock setup they sound strange lol

DARCOM 07-08-2005 09:14 PM

i think my Z28 sounds much better than my viper.



http://darcom.org

86BLUEBIRD 07-14-2005 09:49 AM

darcom, u a fan of Back to the Future?

Mcdamit 07-14-2005 10:13 AM

wouldn't surprise me considering he owns two of the cars, both being hard to find and in the same shape as the movie

86BLUEBIRD 07-14-2005 10:17 AM

lol...retorical question

DARCOM 07-14-2005 06:39 PM

yea

luvofjah 07-28-2005 03:19 PM

Hmmm... here is an Integra Turbo tearing up a viper... RIP


http://host49.ipowerweb.com/~tunedby...gravsviper.wmv

Rafael

urbanhunter44 07-28-2005 06:18 PM


Originally posted by luvofjah
Hmmm... here is an Integra Turbo tearing up a viper... RIP


http://host49.ipowerweb.com/~tunedby...gravsviper.wmv

Rafael

Anything can be built to tear up anything else. It's a matter of money..

Why did you bring back this thread that's been dead for two weeks lol

luvofjah 07-28-2005 06:22 PM

Cuz I thought the video was funny as hell...

& having your car beat by a faster car is one thing... saying that "my tires cost more than your piece of $h@t"... is just wrong...

jocww 07-28-2005 08:42 PM


Originally posted by 2QUIK4U
allow me to retort...... I smoked a ZO6 with just a 150 shot and some other cheap tricks.


I would race a viper from a dig anyday. How many vipers on the street are modded???? I doubt anymore than 1 outta 10. That John Hennesy is a real anal-rententive prick. It was probably him who was driving the 10 second Viper you raced. He had a leaf blower blowing off the track, and ice on his intercooler when Motor Trend tested his best car...

i resent the fact that 3rd gens are not respected on the street. Its sad to think that the stereotype of us is the ******-cut dude in a beater f-body. I say build what you got. If you got money.... go big. If you have a budget...build the car you have into your own form of self expression, which is much more satisfying than buying the "best"......
btw: ******s are cool:D

Yea but ur car isnt stocknow is it;)

98_LS1 07-29-2005 07:03 AM

It's funny that ya'll are talking about a viper, as some of you may or may not know I have a decked out 87 camaro and a 98 Z-28 camaro. Well, yesterday I went to the farmers co-op in Maryville TN and ran across a guy with a Hennessy viper, ( however it's spelled ), anyway, I told him he had a nice car as I was getting into my 98 and he asked if I wanted " some " of his car. I told him flat out that it wouldn't be worth his gas to race me because mine is almost completely stock. He mouthed off a comment saying, " ya, it's just another camaro that can't hang with the big boys " now that pissed me off so now the mods are going to be thrown at the Z and then I'm going looking for his ***. I hate pricks like that, I was drooling over his car and he dissed mine.

luvofjah 07-29-2005 08:58 AM

Old joke....

What's the difference between a Viper & a Porcupine?

The Porcupine has the pricks on the outside :)

jimp2001 07-29-2005 11:43 AM

a very good friend of mine has a viper running high 10s, low 11s. He asks me to trade cars for a day with him all the time (and I do, of course, haha who wouldn't right?), he loves my 3rd gen. Vipers really dont impress me at all. don't get me wrong, its a fast car and a chick magnet at that, but i just like the muscle car feel over an exotic car.

98_LS1 07-29-2005 12:10 PM

True, also a viper and camaro are in two completely different classes of cars. The camaro was made to compete with the mustang and corvette vs. viper, etc... just because I can't afford to sell my house to buy a damn car shouldn't give them the right to make fun of what I have. To me respect is equally distributed to a person as long as I'm respected back.

86BLUEBIRD 07-29-2005 01:18 PM

well i would have to say that most of the people with cars like that, that act like pricks, were either born into money or fell *** over head into money. they look down on everyone and think they r better. people who work and earn a small fortune and get a car like that tend to be cooler and understand that buy what u can with what u got. the ones that act like pricks will never show respect because they dont respect anybody.

lilbowilson 07-30-2005 12:34 PM

Yeah there is no reason to be rude when you already know you have a faster car or for any reason. I just wish I could have met that guy on my 377ci 66 Nova on the street.

I can run 10s in it. Its not a bad street car either but if I was racing that Viper and there was a curve at the end of a straight I know I would have did a BO and LUKE Duke off into the ditch. Probably took the viper with me. LOL

80smetalfan 08-15-2005 11:44 AM


Originally posted by 25thmustang
Mike good point, but then you hate over half the guys on this site, who would race an import, and proceed to rag on the car because it isnt as good as a thirdgen. I see it too much, hot shots in thirdgens and Mustangs beating imports, and acting the same as the Viper owner, then posting it online and getting 50 other Mustang or Fbody owners to congratulate them. The only difference is I doubt the Viper owner goes online and posts about it, as Im sure to him beating a lowly 12 second car is nothing special! Before you hate on prick Viper owners, remember, the same can be said for a LOT of thirdgen and Mustang guys out there!
The difference is that someone like me hates imports because they're Japanese, not because they lost the race.

Though, I must admit I hate the riced-out domestics (cavy's/neons/focus's), but even if I had something like a ZR1 Vette, I wouldn't hate on any gen Camaro, Mustang, etc. If the car has a legimate reason to hate it, like if its not American or riced out, then I will disrespect it. Not because it's old or slow.

I will point out that my prejudice only extends to non-American cars, and not non-Americans themselves, lol.

Jer82Z28 08-18-2005 06:40 PM


Originally posted by Mcdamit
yeah f-bodies really aren't respected on the streets, which sucks because at one point these cars to alot of people were Legends. Now they are musty tired old thirdgens, But the same goes for the late model c3's and all the c4's. Especially considering at one time tpi cars commanded LS series respect. Nice fast car meatwad.
Thats the biggest appeal of the thirdgen for me.
They are a great looking car, sleek and sexy but still very muscle, not many in their new sports cars know much about them or better yet they just assume we are all slow like every 80's car. And then to have this 80's car smoke you off the light, I love the surprised look afterwards.

jocww 08-21-2005 04:04 PM


Originally posted by 80smetalfan
The difference is that someone like me hates imports because they're Japanese, not because they lost the race.

Though, I must admit I hate the riced-out domestics (cavy's/neons/focus's), but even if I had something like a ZR1 Vette, I wouldn't hate on any gen Camaro, Mustang, etc. If the car has a legimate reason to hate it, like if its not American or riced out, then I will disrespect it. Not because it's old or slow.

I will point out that my prejudice only extends to non-American cars, and not non-Americans themselves, lol.

coulda pissed off a lot of people if you didnt add that last part:thumbsup:


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