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84 z28 12-02-2018 09:46 AM

Best bang for your buck 9" center section
 
Just ordered a Moser 9" black friday with all the bells and whistles, now I'm in the market for a new center section. Whats the best bang for the buck S case, Yukon nodular , Moser Pro N ? I'm thinking I'm going the detroit locker route. Like to be into a complete center for $1000 or less

84 z28 12-06-2018 03:33 AM

Re: Best bang for your buck 9" center section
 
Just came in still looking for suggestions

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...4a2353ba7d.jpg

NufNuffZ28 12-06-2018 10:25 AM

Re: Best bang for your buck 9" center section
 
I have a 9" and looking a center section as well.

I can say last time I went with Moser it took 3 centers to get one that didn't whine....

articwhiteZ 12-06-2018 04:25 PM

Re: Best bang for your buck 9" center section
 
TO save a few bucks build one.. right now A good case runs $360 shipped..comes with a trick Daytona support and bolts..this will be a aluminum housing.. you can go cast iron...But Why??.save 20 LBS and go aluminum.. :)
https://i.postimg.cc/k5CR97Kh/20171130-170930.jpg

you can then pick out if you want a Locker.. or what have you... you can get it all done for under $900 and you can do it for about $200 a pop for parts till you have all the parts = $900
https://i.postimg.cc/zBy1MJNT/3rdmember1.jpg.Did all mine from $750 to $900 ea.. with all new parts in ea unit.. I like Lockers so ea one is a locker...I did the larg 3.25 bearings and 1350 u joints with billet yokes... and 31 spline axles... you can do larger axles if you like.. just shop..
https://i.postimg.cc/d1nNvbf2/3rdm2.jpg
the thing you want to remember.. have it put together by somebody that knows what they are doing...
https://i.postimg.cc/SxtGSYhw/4thlocker.jpg
above is a example of a good deal.. $200 to $230 shipped for a like new Detroit Locker with 3.25 bearings for 31 spine axles.
gears $150 to $200 shipped
housing $350
small parts kit $150 (everything you need )
billet yokes $65
ARP pinon nuts $15
(I like the good ricky race stuff so 10 hole shims and goodys $20)
and one other thing.. just looking for good deals.. is ADDICTING! you could end up with more then one unit..
https://i.postimg.cc/xTDSxD4b/3rdmember2.jpg..

I do have some aluminum housings for sale right now just housing $350... and some kits (you add gears) $775
if your making over 400HP do not use a 5 bolt aluminum pinon support ...they fail!..always use the larger 10 bolt pinon support with the bolt through housings...don't go for the cheap $200 to $280 housing... even the strange aluminum 5 bolt housing AVOID! IT LIKE THE PLAGUE!!
UNLESS you not going to drive the car...then your fine...FYI. (CAST IRON UNITS ARE OK) just don't go over 600HP..

then when you need to replace a say pinon seal you .. you order one for a 1970 boss 429 mustang...lol

84 z28 12-07-2018 05:09 PM

Re: Best bang for your buck 9" center section
 
Thanks for the info, one more question I've seen mixed reviews on reusing stock length drive shaft. Do i need to get one made ?

articwhiteZ 12-07-2018 11:39 PM

Re: Best bang for your buck 9" center section
 
not if you use a ford/long yoke over all length 4 1/2" long and in a 1330 u joint..I have one brand new. this is a pic showing the size diff of long & short. I have one by fast shafts that has had 8oz removed they sell has a light weignt yoke (1330 u joint) with this you can use your GM drive line bolt in

https://i.postimg.cc/d1nNvbf2/3rdm2.jpg
this pic shows fast shafts yokes.. full size and cut down /light weight.. (I have a light weight one for sale) below the V
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https://i.postimg.cc/mDmNxDDb/yoke.png

Fast Shafts sells them for $95 (ill sell it for $65 shipped) also have a billet short yoke..same price also new

84 z28 12-08-2018 12:42 PM

Re: Best bang for your buck 9" center section
 
I planned on having a center using a 1350 and using the bastard u joint for now to make the drive shaft I have now work since I just bought this 3" aluminum less than a year ago, or I will sell it with my 10 bolt and just buy a spohn extreme duty chrome moly

antman89iroc 01-06-2019 01:53 PM

Re: Best bang for your buck 9" center section
 
I went with Quick Performance- Yukon nodular, Daytona aluminum support, Truetrac 31sp, Motive gears, Timken bearings and a forged 1330 yoke. All set up by them and came in at about $1200. Yes, you can buy the parts cheaper or get lower quality parts to start with and be in at around 900-1000 but in my experience their assembly expertise is worth the price. The 3rd member they set up runs quiet and has taken a ton of abuse. 3.50 gear, 3700lbs, slicks and 4k drag launches and hasn't whined or squirmed. The Truetrac is a great posi. Worm gear style drives like an open differential on the street and hooks like a spool at the track.
If you are going to the trouble of installing a 9" may as well get the super HD chunk to go in it.
Another cost effective source is Speedway motors.
On the other hand, if you are pinching pennies, a stock carrier with a track-loc style posi and a budget gear set will get you going and you can drop a HD 3rd member later. If you go that route you can probably get by for $500 or so. That is the one big advantage of the 9", you can easily swap 3rd members later. I have a stock carrier and support if interested for $75. It has an open 28sp dif I will include if you want it. The carrier I have has been cleaned, deburred and inspected. I planned to use it but one thing led to another and I ended up with the Yukon unit since I have a manual transmission.

84 z28 01-06-2019 01:59 PM

Re: Best bang for your buck 9" center section
 

Originally Posted by antman89iroc (Post 6272689)
I went with Quick Performance- Yukon nodular, Daytona aluminum support, Truetrac 31sp, Motive gears, Timken bearings and a forged 1330 yoke. All set up by them and came in at about $1200. Yes, you can buy the parts cheaper or get lower quality parts to start with and be in at around 900-1000 but in my experience their assembly expertise is worth the price. The 3rd member they set up runs quiet and has taken a ton of abuse. 3.50 gear, 3700lbs, slicks and 4k drag launches and hasn't whined or squirmed. The Truetrac is a great posi. Worm gear style drives like an open differential on the street and hooks like a spool at the track.
If you are going to the trouble of installing a 9" may as well get the super HD chunk to go in it.
Another cost effective source is Speedway motors.
On the other hand, if you are pinching pennies, a stock carrier with a track-loc style posi and a budget gear set will get you going and you can drop a HD 3rd member later. If you go that route you can probably get by for $500 or so. That is the one big advantage of the 9", you can easily swap 3rd members later. I have a stock carrier and support if interested for $75. It has an open 28sp dif I will include if you want it. The carrier I have has been cleaned, deburred and inspected. I planned to use it but one thing led to another and I ended up with the Yukon unit since I have a manual transmission.

I actually ended up going with quick performance

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...7c45cf4dee.png


antman89iroc 01-06-2019 02:03 PM

Re: Best bang for your buck 9" center section
 
Drive shaft? It depends on your starting setup but mine was originally 700 & 9 bolt rear. Stock shaft length worked fine. Now I run a TKO 600 and the trans yoke is different so I lengthened the shaft 1/2". I was being anal about the yoke engagement in the trans though. Most people would have run it as is probably.
I would wait and check everything after you have the rear and trans in place. Even details like LCAB and pinion angle adjustment affect the final rear yoke placement and the DS length.

antman89iroc 01-06-2019 02:05 PM

Re: Best bang for your buck 9" center section
 

Originally Posted by 84 z28 (Post 6272691)
I actually ended up going with quick performance

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...7c45cf4dee.png

Good choice. Let us know if the aluminum center works for you. I like the idea of saving the weight. The 9" added a good 100#.

84 z28 01-06-2019 02:05 PM

Re: Best bang for your buck 9" center section
 

Originally Posted by antman89iroc (Post 6272693)
Drive shaft? It depends on your starting setup but mine was originally 700 & 9 bolt rear. Stock shaft length worked fine. Now I run a TKO 600 and the trans yoke is different so I lengthened the shaft 1/2". I was being anal about the yoke engagement in the trans though. Most people would have run it as is probably.
I would wait and check everything after you have the rear and trans in place. Even details like LCAB and pinion angle adjustment affect the final rear yoke placement and the DS length.

I'm going to get one made from Denny's drive shaft after I get the rearend in my car

antman89iroc 01-06-2019 02:07 PM

Re: Best bang for your buck 9" center section
 

Originally Posted by 84 z28 (Post 6272697)
I'm going to get one made from Denny's drive shaft after I get the rearend in my car

Denny's & Drive Shaft Specialists- A+

articwhiteZ 01-09-2019 12:50 PM

Re: Best bang for your buck 9" center section
 
buyIng parts and knowing what you're paying for you can buy the best parts available and build this 9 in carrier for Less the $900 each..You can even spend less.. has I opted for ARP bolts.. just know what you're looking for and if your going to install 1350 U-joints.. by using a combo U-joint you're defeating the purpose of the 1350 U-joint....

articwhiteZ 01-09-2019 01:03 PM

Re: Best bang for your buck 9" center section
 
I have used quick performance for parts also.. fast shipping and good to deal with.. they can supply the ARP pinion Bolt.. but the 10 ARP bolts for the Daytona support. I had to get from Summit about $40 a package Needing two packages per unit..
trying to do this post from a phone sucks..
​​​​​​​ the one Yukon unit I used I did not like the way the parts fit compared to my other units..
2 thng I did not like about the Yukon unit
1.the Yukon unit 10 bolt pinon support has 2 diff bolt sizes..(so a can go cheaper price 5 bolt Daytona pinon support)
2.the support caps are shoulder cut..


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