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Dale 12-26-2002 02:52 PM

Pilot Shaft Bushing
 
Ok guys, since project85 is out, I need your help.

He told me he got a roller pilot shaft bushing from napa. I called, they said no go, so he must know a trick I dont.

Now, on orileys site, it says I can use a motormite 14650 with my borg-warner 5sp.

I looked up and found that a 95 camaro lt1 uses same 14650, but my friend that works their says the roller bushing for that car is slightly bigger on outside, and inside is the same.

Think thats what he did, and just BFH'd it in their??

I'm wanting to bolt this beast in this weekend :D

TomP 12-26-2002 02:59 PM

I'm not that swift on manual trannies, so I tried going to expressautoparts.com ... but they list (under bearing & seal) an input pilot or mainshaft pilot bearings - not bushings - which one is this?

Dale 12-26-2002 03:05 PM

No clue, thats what I'm trying to figure out, HEHE. I sent project a PM the day he said that, and he never responded :(

TomP 12-26-2002 03:07 PM

Oh if you want more sites:

http://www.partsamerica.com
http://www.carparts.com
http://www.napaonline.com <-- (Guess you tried this one already, eh?)

If you go under http://www.federalmogul.com and choose Moog (suspension), there's a link for online catalog, and you can put in car info to look up any online part.

Kinda scares me; the online catalog used to be very obvious... I hope federal mogul isn't about to take it down. Hm. I better find out how to save that website, eh? :)

Dale 12-26-2002 03:17 PM

Thanks for the links tom.

I have tryed partsamerica and napa.

Carparts dont have anything for my truck :rolleyes:
and that federalmoug site I cant figer out. :doh:

I'm thinking about trying it, If I have a roller timing chain, and plan on getting roller rockers, why not roller bearings ;)

I see autozone carrys a timken one that is 12 bux, wonder what kind it is :confused: I hate autozone too.

Project: 85 2.8 bird 12-26-2002 04:32 PM

the roller pilot I got from napy was for my 77 T/A 400 w/the T-10.

TomP 12-26-2002 04:53 PM

Yeah, federal mogul's a bit trickey, try:

Go to: http://www.federalmogul.com

Click on replacement parts for: US & Canada

Click on the picture of a tie-rod end (looks like an impact gun) for Moog Chassis Parts

On the left, choose online catalog

Now, click for your year, make, model, and engine

The website looks like it freezes- now click on the blue "product category" icon below the year/make/model/engine boxes

Choose some category (like Drivetrain)

Choose a group (like Manual Transmission & Parts)

The website looks like it freezes- click on "lookup" below the boxes

Make any other choices (like Yes to manual trans, then submit) and you should see your listing.

The catalog wasn't this confusing before; some jerk must've re-did it recently. :mad: I hate websites that always change themselves around (do you hear me, dell.com ?!??! Geez! Enough already!!! Leave the website ALONE!!) - it makes it hell to find anything.

Dale 12-26-2002 08:01 PM

TY both of you.

Now I can get a new bushing :) Went and got one today, but its only 5 bux and I can take it back :)

Dale 12-26-2002 09:01 PM

Project, did that fit in the 3.4l engine. I just realized, you may have been talking about 2 diff cars

Project: 85 2.8 bird 12-27-2002 06:08 AM

2 diff cars, I was just able to find one that (T/A) particular engine/tranny combo.

look@ the time, you're gonna make me late for work :doh:

KED85 12-27-2002 06:27 AM

Last roller bearing I got was for my M-21 for my 1967 Camaro.
Which I'll bet is the exact same size used in the 70's Firebird example.

Dale 12-27-2002 06:57 AM

LOL, I did notice some of the v8's used the same part # :rolleyes:

However, our 60deg v6's use different part #'s :rolleyes:


Ok, I wont worry about a roller bearing :( I was really wanting one for this.

KED85 12-27-2002 07:05 AM

Hi Dale,
I SO AGREE
That's why I obtained my roller bearing.
BUT with modern technology, many times, "old"
is just now "old ideas" and not necessary on newer rides.

Dale 12-27-2002 07:31 AM

HEHE I could measure one and search the net and attempt to find one, MUAHH

KED85 12-27-2002 08:17 AM

me thinks it would easier to just drill the hole in flywheel BIGGER!

Dale 12-27-2002 09:00 AM

LOL, I will pass on that one ked.

I bought a basic bearing for it. I have lots of time, so I will check its dimenions and search the net. In mean time, I plan on installing engine this weekend :D

Got last parts I needed last night
Borrowed engine hoist last night :(
Had to put truck on wood blocks just to get it high enough to roll hoist under frame *blush*

Wish me luck on both rides as I am still attempting to find my "not starting when warm" symptom on camaro.

KED85 12-27-2002 12:16 PM

May I?
On your TRUCK
I FOUND THAT
I had to REMOVE THE WHEELS to LOWER MY TRUCK to make the engine "leap, LOL!" over the radiator support of my 1985 S-10 Blazer.
I didnt have to raise the "factory stock ride height" truck off the ground to get the engine bay hoist lift under my frame.
Hope these are some tips for ya to help better.

Dale 12-27-2002 12:54 PM

I've had it out 3 time before, I unfortunatly know how it goes. Its not even the orginal frame under the truck, hehe.

This is the first time since I had the air suspension on it though, and even with it fully inflated, the hoist would hit the control arms underneith.

other times I never removed the front bumper, and it always hit the bumper coming out.

This time, bumper was first part to come off.

First time I tryed pulling it, forgot the handle had to come off tranny, and forgot the ground straps............


"WTF IS HOLDING ENGINE IN?".... "Hey, where you supp to unbolt these here first?" "ARGH":doh:

KED85 12-27-2002 05:39 PM

You CERTAINLY are building a show truck.....

TomP 12-27-2002 08:07 PM

Nuthin' wrong with a little ground-strap stress-test ;)

Project: 85 2.8 bird 12-27-2002 09:07 PM


"WTF IS HOLDING ENGINE IN?"....
in my swap case, the tranny lines were still "hooked/attached" to the engine underneath. & poof!!! I got to bend new lines. :doh:

I might be able to sneek a couple more posts in before Jan, that's when the fun really begins :eek:

KED85 12-27-2002 09:44 PM

Come New Years Day ya may have more snow.. From the Weatherman on the West Coast...
We have a storm cell coming ashore by Sat. nite/Sunday....

Listed in the GM performance parts book
Clutch Pilot Bushing
476574
NO IDEA if this is a roller bearing.


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