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turbo or not to turbo will any turbo work or does it have to be specific? also what mods would i have to do on the old 2.8? thanks in advance. |
:sigh: I'll start by saying one thing.. if you've got alotta beans to spend, Camaro_Hunter_D and Generation X Racing (his company) are going to develope a turbo kit for the 60* V6 sometime in the future. It will be a kit, with the understanding that a performance rebuild will be nessesary, he will offer a kit with and without an intercooler, and will also offer the tubing seprately (I'm pretty sure of this anyway)... To answer your question, no, not any turbo will work. If it's too big, the amount of spool time and lag will be enormous, and you will loose alot, if you make it too small, you loose alot of potential there too. The idea will be to get a turbo off of a car with similar internal engine dimentions... CI, CR, ect... and still have it be powerful and good enough to create some good boost (20 PSIG)... I don't know the applications out there, but they exist. Next comes the exhaust routing and intake routing, again, do-able, but time consuming and money consuming!!! The rebuild, more money... Tuning expenses, things like fuel managment, spark management, wastegates and blow-offs, intercoolers... more money Advantages: braggin rights, a hella strong top end, and maybe 100HP at the wheels Power is directly proportional to money. If you want power quick and easy... get a 50-75 shot of nitrous... a good running engine will take it, and you get an instant boost whenever you want it. Hope that sums it all up for you. ------------------ 1985 Camaro SC - 2.8L, auto. C'mon, spin 'em for papa... http://www.xenodrgn.f2s.com/Frontright.jpg |
As far as engine mods for a turbo set up... you'd need a fuel management system, spark management system, forged innards, possible reduce CR... after that is all the obvious stuff... pipe routing and what-not. ------------------ 1985 Camaro SC - 2.8L, auto. C'mon, spin 'em for papa... http://www.xenodrgn.f2s.com/Frontright.jpg |
In other words lots and lots of stuff to do.If your gonna do this your self then your lookin at some down time for your car. [This message has been edited by 85SportCoupeto89RS (edited November 22, 2001).] |
Put it this way you are basically putting in a V8 engine. You will need all the parts, the same amount of time, and the same amount of power. It is up to you if you wanna try it. |
you can get 200hp+ out from 2.8 with single turbo setup. all you need is to take care of air/fuel ratio when boost is on (to verify it a/f monitor, spark reading, egt meter would be useful). you're not able to use big boost, but if i'd be driver of 2.8, i'd be happy with 200hp since car is not that heavy as V8's. all you need is custom exhaust, turbo, 7th injector and its driver _or_ to replace 7th injector you need custom prom work. here's one solution that budget turbo builder could use: - turbo from 2.x ford/mopar (we're not looking for big boost) - exhaust: DYI (flip stock exhaust and/or custom made) - the 7th injector, cold start injector from audi,saab,vw. it sprays continously when activated - driver for injector: pressure swich that will connect 7th inj. when boost is on for ex. 5psi there's plenty of fiero guys running happy with turbos, so why don't you do the same? -P https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/smile.gif |
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by pontiac: you can get 200hp+ out from 2.8 with single turbo setup. all you need is to take care of air/fuel ratio when boost is on (to verify it a/f monitor, spark reading, egt meter would be useful). you're not able to use big boost, but if i'd be driver of 2.8, i'd be happy with 200hp since car is not that heavy as V8's. all you need is custom exhaust, turbo, 7th injector and its driver _or_ to replace 7th injector you need custom prom work. here's one solution that budget turbo builder could use: - turbo from 2.x ford/mopar (we're not looking for big boost) - exhaust: DYI (flip stock exhaust and/or custom made) - the 7th injector, cold start injector from audi,saab,vw. it sprays continously when activated - driver for injector: pressure swich that will connect 7th inj. when boost is on for ex. 5psi there's plenty of fiero guys running happy with turbos, so why don't you do the same? -P https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/smile.gif</font> After getting the intercooler installed and running more diagnostic with the lap top reconfigure the "Base" chip and distinguish the two parameters with and without the intercooler. Then boost untill something breaks. Sounds like fun. Raise the boost untill the engine requires TOO much octane to be on pump gas, or carefully record the info as I slowly raise the boost untill a rod, piston, or something else breaks and give the next lowest level sustained successfully as the max PSI to run. I expect to get it around 17-18 PSI and around 250-260 HP. Enough to be considered a threat, especially for a 2.8/3.1/3.4 add nos and be even more potent. I can't wait. MUUU HA HAH HA |
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Camaro_hunter_d: Actually I was going to run 24Lb injectors. No need for 7th. Headers custom made, cause I want to keep everything under the hood like P/S and A/C. Though I was looking at a Straight T3 turbo, 19 PSI Max or around that. While doing the test trails on my car(Having a lap top record everything for about a month) so I know what to change and tweak in the comp chip. Adjust A/F, Spark, Detonation retard, MAP Retard, amonst other things. then try the final chips and keep it as a "Base line" controller chip. After getting the intercooler installed and running more diagnostic with the lap top reconfigure the "Base" chip and distinguish the two parameters with and without the intercooler. Then boost untill something breaks. Sounds like fun. Raise the boost untill the engine requires TOO much octane to be on pump gas, or carefully record the info as I slowly raise the boost untill a rod, piston, or something else breaks and give the next lowest level sustained successfully as the max PSI to run. I expect to get it around 17-18 PSI and around 250-260 HP. Enough to be considered a threat, especially for a 2.8/3.1/3.4 add nos and be even more potent. I can't wait. MUUU HA HAH HA </font> bigger injectors and custom prom work is much better than the one i suggested. you can fine tune all the parameters. do you have EGT and air/fuel meter installed? cast pistons will melt in no time under big boost if something goes wrong https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/smile.gif good luck with turbo! -P https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/smile.gif |
Well I have the A/F ratio already. I am now getting the Fuel Pressure guage. When it comes closer to this happening I am getting the full compliment of guages, EGT, Oil Pressure, Oil temp, oil coolers ect. I have a long way to go before I can even start this project. But I have the majority of the tools and equipment alreay so I am alot closer then the one time builder. As I said before my biggest thing I want to do is get the turbo set up while keeping everything under the hood. I am going to convert the fuel system to an out of tank pump and add a few more filters an possibly a fuel cooler. I know the patch cord to the diag plug can be made I found directions for it somewhere, I just need the live running program so I can adjust on the fly. The biggest problem I am still having is where to route the down pipe. I really do not want to run it under the K frame. I have a few Ideas, but untill I start I'm not sure where its going. |
If your going to do a Turbo, you might as well get another 2.8, and start to rebild it. Cause the one in your car isn;t going to handle it. Then once you have it built up, you can turbo it |
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Joe_L: If your going to do a Turbo, you might as well get another 2.8, and start to rebild it. Cause the one in your car isn;t going to handle it. Then once you have it built up, you can turbo it</font> |
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