just installed the new edelbrock adjustable torque arm and it snapped at the welds while at idle out of the shop door. not even a minute old and it didn't last.

not saying all are bad but be careful........

 

damn thats bull****, i hope you get your money back. I love your car by the way

 

maybe you should go with a spohn i have one and it is great
pete

 

i had thought about it but i didn't care to pay 3 times the price....i'd just assume keep the stock one. after spending so much on other parts that helped only slightly i was burnt out on paying such an amount when you can get the same style elsewhere.

i'm just glad i wasn't moving fast with it.....edelbrock has some explaining to do.

 

You got that right! Unless you're making like 900 ft/lbs of torque @ idle If so, what's your secret!

 

yeah something like this is pretty unbelievable. were not talking about alot of pre-load, hard launches, etc. i made it out of the shop and boom....felt like a wheel fell off. i knew it was cheap but wow..

 

i like my bmr... wasnt that pricey

 

Sounds like a newbe welder screwed up. Now the problem is - how many did he screw up before someone gets hurt. How many are sitting on selves waiting to be installed.

I would be on that phone hard with those guys. Hell I'd want to talk to Vic Jr. himself, cause where talking about someone getting seriously hurt if not killed.

This sounds like a serious recall!!! You need to get that removed and sent in for inspection, but don't let them cover that crap up, cause they'll do it!!! It's all about money to these big wigs.

Ron

 

the mild steel bmr is 175 dollars more where as spohns mild steel is 200 more. the CM version of bmr is 200 more and spohns is almost 350 more....i'd say it's a hell of alot more but hopefully you get what you pay for because i certainly didn't with this piece.

 

your reply was early to my own.....

i am suppose to have a conference with someone and a engineer tomorrow. however the units are built by robots aparently so someone screwed up. i'm just so thankful it wasn't going down the track. my stock piece may have flexed and what not but now i'm really worried about going with a different piece..

 

Yup you get what you pay for; in my opinion BMR is the best of the best. I have never heard of anything BMR making break, spohn on the other hand... well i am not going to discuss that on this board.

 

That's even worse, cause those machines can crank out tons in an hour. Hopefully for them it's just yours! Well, you know what I mean, you should get some sort of reinburstment for time and labor. Lay it down, that It could of broke in a school zone, or during rush hour - you know, make them take some resposiblity.

Good Luck,

Ron

 

as bad as it sounds but as much of this sort of thing i've ran into i wonder what it's worth......even though it didn't happen it could have. if women can burn themselves on hot coffee labeled hot coffee there must be some sort of reimbursement!

just no call for that sort of b.s in a part that wasn't put to it's stress point however you know they are going to try and say i was racing the car.

 

Isn't that what it's meant for? Or is it some kind of stock replacement arm? I thought it was a "performance" or "heavy duty" torque arm.

Either way, I know I won't be giving edelbrock my money anytime soon.

Glad you and your car are alright. You better get a full refund plus labor costs, maybe something extra, and a damn good apology.

Laters,
Scott

 

How much did you pay for it?

 

140.

 

as for the spohn arms the only bad things i've heard are that the ds loops have given many people trouble. never have i seen a post with an actual breaking of the unit.will search and see what comes up.i'm very happy with my spohn unit but i'm sure the bmr unit would have been fine too.
with as much money as you have in that car i dont think i could sleep at night with a edelbrock unit under it
pete

 

yeah well i won't now...however it gets old over spending. i could reweld this piece and it would be perfect for what i need at alot less cost......however i shouldn't have to.

 

No, you shouldn't. Even though it is a lower costing unit, it still has the name of Edelbrock on it. Which in a nutshell should say Quality. Unfortunatly in this case it does not. Hopefully they don't try and jerk you around about it.

 

--->--->SPOHN RULES SPOHN RULES<---<---

 

is it CM or steel tubing? or plastic

i hope you get it all worked out Jeff

 

Terrible how it came up after breaking and dented your rims, busted your baer track rear setup and ruined your brand new carbon fibre driveshaft. Oh well, get Edelbrock to send you those new as well...

 

Chevy High performance used one on a 92 rs and punished it, you must have got a very lame one

If it were me, I'd have a buddy right me up a labor cost, and make them pay it.

with all that said, I love all the edelbrock stuff that i have bought, and will continue buying them

 

You are not going to find posts of Spohn pieces breaking because he deletes all the posts that pop up about problems, he is a moderator here. I have never seen one of his torque arms breaking but a few people on this board have broken spohn adjustable control arms. No matter where you buy parts from their will always be a few that slip out that have problems. I have never heard of anyone ever having a problem with BMR, that’s just one of the many reasons why I swear by BMR.

 

i know that he is a mod and provides monitary support for this site and that is part of the reason i do business with him. the other reason is that his parts rock! there is no way id use the bmr mount that mounts to the tranny as i can mod the stock piece to be stronger than that. but for those with no welder it may be a good middle ground unit.as for the upgraded bmr unit i still think spohn makes a better part,pricey but better.but thats my .02
p.s where overseas is the edelbrock unit made?will edelbrock even tell you?

 

Wow, that is cheap for an adjustable.

 

exactly which is why i bought it....i was just looking for something that wouldn't flex as much. i don't need another 500 piece that gives "slight" benefits. i have alot wrapped up in CM tubing for suspension that works good but the more i get into this stuff the more i realize i'd rather have some of that money back in my pocket and go slightly slower. i'm sure the spohn piece is all fine and well but for my application it isn't needed and when someone finally came out with a reasonably price piece i thought i'd try it. unfortunately it didn't work, but that happens.

they have asked if i'll ship it back, i plan to do so and then negotiate what they are going to do. i haven't noticed anything messed up so it's hard to ask for more then my money back. we'll see what happens.

 

where did the welds brake on the torque arm?Where it attaches to the trans or rear?

 

where is it adjustable?

 

B4Ctom1, that pic shown is not the adjustable piece, but still same design really.

 

yeah that piece isn't the same piece however very similar in design. it broke right in front of the adjusters using the trans(front) as ref.

the adjuster is an inch or so from the rear section where it mounts....

 

sorry about the wrong pic.It broke at the red or green arrows?Also where did you get yours from summit isnt getting any till the middle of May and are going for $200.

 

And I have personally seen a BMR Trak-Pack torque arm that broke at the welds with only 350 horsepower. The arm ended up bent to hell.

 

I have seen a couple of BMR panhard rods that were torn apart on the LS1tech site.BTW im not ripping BMR I have their LCA-brackets and are happy with them.

 

broke at the red arrows more or less.....i bought mine through a local store here in michigan called ramchargers. as i said it's still pretty new.

 

did you try another one or did you go with something else?

im getting reay to change mine out and was looking at the edelbrock adjustable

 

by the way, great car i saw it in the issue of gm high tech

 

The thread is a year and a half old.

 

I wonder if the spohn ones have broken before as well, or atleast cracked maybe?

You will notice that Spohn has several heavy duty racing versions, indicating that if you are putting down some serious 60 ft with some real power then a basic aftermarket torque arm, and probably even the stocker, won't hold up for long.

I would be curious to know how edelbrock or the vendor handled this breakage.

 

they sent me a hat... which was lost in the mail.

 

 

Now that's just plain pathetic. You should email someone there with a copy of this thread, and tell them you appreciate their trying to make good on the bad part (?), but when they screw up getting you a hat, they should be embarassed.

Look, I know these things happen, but a really good company would make a personal phone call and email a gift certificate for $50 or something to make you feel like you matter to them, even a little bit!

Good luck, and please keep us posted. I would like to know how it all turns out before I spend any money with them.

 

i had lunch with Vic at SEMA last month and he said it's simply a matter of customer service. these things happen, they took the arm back and fixed the welds but i never used it as i couldn't trust it.

 

unfortunately, crap happens. I REALLY didn't need to happen to such a nice car, but it happened. - I've seen BMR bars running in the low 5's in the 1/8 down here in the factory suspension classes. I've also heard of broken BMR bars behind 300-400 hp cars. Seems no manufacturer really cares any more... maybe thats why I built my own...

 

Man am I glad I did some searching on torque arms as I was looking through summit and all related sites to purchase one
and was amazed at prices. I knew they were a little pricey but
what do you get, spending all that extra cash on something
that breaks or the potential of breaking at basically an idle "kandied91z" and a few other on this site under power. I know nothing manmade is bullet proof and manufacturing is
what it is, bottom line, quality is a no issue and the all mighty $ is, fast production makes for money to be made more quickly, period!!!
Once again, I am truly a fortunate person to have an opportunity in this site for immediate knowledge of any
and I mean any 3rd gen woes I've come accross, you guys are the best. BTW I'm making my own, for I do have access to welders and the sort. Kandied91 they should have done a whole lot more if they knew that their lack of Q.C. would end up on this site they may have.
I definitely would not lay down on his one. Bottom line for me.....TGO RULES!!!!!!!!

 

in all reality comparing an edelbrock trq arm that is roughly 1/3 the cost of some nicer unit isn't fair. however, with that being said a part is a part and if it's intended use is one specific outlook it should not matter whether it's $100 or $400. in the end the part should work.

I looked the piece over good and the welds were solid and clean. the car was under no specific stress other then the physical weight of the car and it snapped. just a warning to all who are interested, hopefully they fixed it by now.

 

No one has mentioned Global West here, these are road race proven. I have been running the GW on my fourth gen for many hot haps, they also have one for a third gen. You'll be impressed by the beefiness of the unit. They are not legal in my race class so I can't run one on my third gen race car.

http://www.globalwest.net

 

dia isn't everything.

 

Standing up to the test of time and real race track time is a plus, no matter how you slice it. It takes a bit to set the pinion angle up on these adjustable jobs, once that is done you are good to grip! It has been many years and I have had zero problems with the GW unit.

 

contact edelbrock there is a recall on torque arms right now!!