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08-25-2006, 12:13 AM
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#101 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Port Angeles, Wa
Posts: 493
Car: 1983 Camaro Z28 Engine: 383 Transmission: TH-350 w/ transbrake Axle/Gears: 4.11 Moser 9 inch Detroit Locker | Well with all of the sfc's I have been seeing I havent seen anyone throw out the brand I am running (which may be a bad thing LOL). Im running CGS chassis SFC's they were a bolt in then welded them but you can get them just as weld ins if you like. I have been running them for almost 3 years whithout a bit of problem. Just thought I would toss out another company to think about.
__________________  1983 Z28 Camaro
To much to list for modifications to power train,interior,and exterior. 10.72 @124MPH
no nitrous. getting ready for next season.... maybe 9's ;-)
1967 RS/SS 396 Camaro
Restoration in progress |
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08-25-2006, 12:25 AM
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#102 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: any clime or place...
Posts: 2,321
Car: 1987 Camaro SC Engine: GMPP 350HO Transmission: Built 700r4, edge 3200 stall Axle/Gears: Eaton Posi'd 3.42 10-bolt | and another... I'm going to jump on the TGO bandwagon, and vote for Spohn. I love my SFC's, i need to sand them down and coat them w/ por 15 though, as to the fact i cheaped out on the powdercoating, haha.
Anything as to the suspension, I turn to Spohn first.
Brandon
__________________ 1987 Chevrolet Camaro Sport Coupe GMPP 350HO vortec crate engine Hooker 2055's, 3" 80 series cat-back, holley 650DP w/ Electric Choke, K&N StubStack, RPM intake, MSD SuperConductor wires, MSD Cap/Rotor/Coil, Crane HEI kit, K&N 14x3, 180* t-stat, LT1 starter, SLP ZR1's, Spohn SFCs/Wonderbar/tubular LCA's/brackets, Eaton Posi, Motive 3.42's, Summit Girdle, 28 spline Superior Axles, 4th gen aluminum DS, Moog Iroc Springs, KYB GR-2s/Strut Mounts, 36MM 1LE swaybar, Iroc gearbox, Polyurethane end-links, 700r4 w/ all the goodies, edge 3200 stall TC, derale pan, painless TCC lock-up kit, supercooler, 4th gen seats, 145mph cluster, Autometer A/F & Tranny Temp SC Gauges, Dual Pillar Pod, AC delete Box, Pioneer 6x9's/4x6's/DEH-P3000IB, Goodmark Steel Cowl Hood, Nitto 555'sx4
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08-29-2006, 12:37 PM
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#103 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Don't be Scurred.......it's only a Camaro
Posts: 2,587
Car: '91 Camaro RS Engine: 383 with AFR 210's F1R Procharged Transmission: Tremec 600 Axle/Gears: moser 12 bolt, 4.11's 33 spline axl | I've welded in quite a few pairs of subrames........I have the SSM lift bar setup, and i love the subframes, but unfortunately they arent available anymore.
the hotchkis ones are nice, and fit very well for the most part...and im a fan of the attachment points as well.
the spohn ones have given me nothing but trouble, they only fit OK even on a really straight car, and they are a real bitch to weld to the rocker seam because they're round. |
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08-29-2006, 02:05 PM
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#104 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Norfolk, VA. USA
Posts: 7,374
Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI Transmission: T56, T5 | i've got the Hotchkis weld-on ones (had them for about 5 years now and they aren't installed yet.)
probably install them this weekend.
__________________ 1988 Firebird Formula WS6 305HSR T5 195RWHP/273RWTQ Mods: Eibach Sportlines, ASCD RA1 Hood, 01 LS1 rear with LS1 brakes, Moser Axles, Torsen Posi, 3.42 gears, TA Diff Cover,
ES Tranny & Tq Arm Mount, 160* Stat, K&N Cone Filter, TB Coolant Bypass, Holley Stealth Ram, MSD Billet Dist. Pro 5.0 Shifter,
Hooker Headers, Borla Catback, Lakewood LCA's, BMR Adj. Panhard, 2" Skulte Adaptors, 17" ZR1's w/ Nitto 555RII's,
Craig Moates Adaptors and Chips WWW.TransAmWS6.Com http://youtube.com/watch?v=BQ54A0NY2l0 |
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10-06-2006, 03:03 AM
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#105 | | Member
Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: SE, NY, USA
Posts: 261
Car: 1988 Vette; 1988 IROC Z-28 Engine: 350cid; 305cid Transmission: 700R/4; 700R/4 Axle/Gears: 2.59; 2.77 | I had the SSM SFC welded under my '86 IROC-Z and they really stiffened the chassis. As mentioned they blot & weld to the rear sub-frame, weld to the front sub-frame and tac-weld along the rocker panels.
My only problem was closeness of the Edelbrock front Y to the RH SFC, though it did clear enough to not rattle.
Since the SSMs come in a kit I think you will be quite satisfied with the resulting stiffness to the chassis.
__________________ 1986 IROC Z-28 Site
Best Times:
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Current ride: 1988 IROC Z-28 |
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10-09-2006, 08:11 PM
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#106 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Norwalk, CT
Posts: 43
Car: 88 IROC-Z/05 Silverado ECSB Engine: 408 LSX Transmission: 700-R4 reverse pattern/manual valve Axle/Gears: 9"/4.11 | Does anyone know the weight difference between most of these subframe connectors? I have a set of SSM connectors and they feel pretty heavy, but I have nothing to compare them to.
I have never seen any manufacturer post this info-any help would be appreciated. |
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10-09-2006, 09:59 PM
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#107 | | Member
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Providence, NJ
Posts: 248
Car: 1987 IROC-Z Engine: Goodwrench 350 Transmission: 700R4 with B&M Megashifter, 2400 co Axle/Gears: richmond 3.73 | i just bought the Alstons a month ago, and have had them installed for 2 weeks, .. they are really awesome, not as low as my 3" hooker cat-back, follow the body close underneath, relativley easy to drill and install. made the car real tight... got them from TDS, about $180 powdercoated black .. might weld them up in a month or so |
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10-15-2006, 03:23 AM
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#108 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 4,146
Car: 87 GTA Engine: L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: Dana M78 3.27 posi | Maybe it's just me...
I can't see charging $200, for $50 MAX worth of material! I can understand R&D time...machine costs for bending...construction welding time, but still!
The profit margin on SFC's just seem like overkill! Hell, R&D is almost a moot point, with 14+ years worth of R&D with others to copy. It's not like it's brand new R&D
I want SFCs, but...I just can't bring myself to spend that much. I think I'm gonna build my own. With my metal building experience, it won't be THAT difficult. I't's not like we're trying to push 1000hp cars through them.
I'm sure I'll get flamed for this...Oh well...It's just my opinion. |
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10-15-2006, 04:57 AM
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#109 | | TGO Supporter
Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Cheyenne, Wyoming
Posts: 4,723
Car: 1992 B4C 1LE Engine: HSR on a ZZ4 clone Transmission: built 700R4 Axle/Gears: stock w/later torsen posi ······································· Car: 91 Z28 street legal drag Engine: 352 dstrk 400 w/P1sc Transmission: TH350 w/brake Axle/Gears: Currie 9+ w/4.11 limited slip | my first set of SFC's were comp eng ones, two pieces of 2 x 2 with one of them having a useless/pointless bracket on one end that I paid plenty for (summit + truck ship) that I had to weld. wwhen I could have just bought some 2 x 2 and cut it myself.
the second set I bough 1 x 2 thickwall and did just that. |
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10-23-2006, 11:30 AM
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#110 | | Member
Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Middle GA
Posts: 290
Car: 1992 RS Engine: Vortec Headed 383 9.6:1 Transmission: TKO600 Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt Posi 3.73 | Where could one purchase the Kenny Brown set up? |
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10-23-2006, 12:09 PM
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#111 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,362
Car: 86 Z28 Engine: 305 Transmission: 700r4 Axle/Gears: TBD | Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDreams92 Where could one purchase the Kenny Brown set up? | the closest i've seen to thier design is the umi's which i will be running. i'd love some kb's but there are defunct until kenny recovers and starts over. |
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10-23-2006, 01:14 PM
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#112 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mobile, AL
Posts: 2,694
Car: GTA Engine: 350 TPI Transmission: TH-700R4 Axle/Gears: 3.27 | UMI has the best design hands down. Installation ws easy, and makes room for virtually any exhaust system. |
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10-23-2006, 02:18 PM
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#113 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 92
| wat would be the be the best SFC for true dual setup? |
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10-23-2006, 04:51 PM
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#114 | | Member
Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Middle GA
Posts: 290
Car: 1992 RS Engine: Vortec Headed 383 9.6:1 Transmission: TKO600 Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt Posi 3.73 | After looking at the UMI set, I think I'm going to be going with those. |
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10-23-2006, 07:40 PM
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#115 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mobile, AL
Posts: 2,694
Car: GTA Engine: 350 TPI Transmission: TH-700R4 Axle/Gears: 3.27 | Ask for ryan.... and tell them Cale Bradley refered you. They will probably give you a discount of some sort. Or you can email me and I will talk to him. |
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10-30-2006, 03:05 AM
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#116 | | Junior Member
Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cincinnati area
Posts: 73
Car: 1988 Iroc-Z / 1992 RS Engine: 5.7 TPI / L03 TBI Transmission: 700r-4 / 700r-4 Axle/Gears: 9 bolt 2.77 posi / 10 bolt 2.73 | Does UMI have a website? I would like to check out there sfc's. |
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10-30-2006, 10:58 AM
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#117 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 4,146
Car: 87 GTA Engine: L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: Dana M78 3.27 posi | Quote:
Originally Posted by Mylilbowtie Does UMI have a website? I would like to check out there sfc's. | UMI website
To me, the UMI set looks like a homemade set, with the stepped bar being 2 pieces welded together. That would be an easy way to build a set at home.
Damn sure not at $200 for a set! |
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11-10-2006, 08:40 PM
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#118 | | Member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 101
| MAC make awsome connectors
just google mac performance parts |
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02-01-2007, 12:03 AM
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#119 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 31
| Ive seen alot of square tube LCA! edelbrock lakewood metco hotchkis
i love my Comp engineering, bolt in then weld em up. |
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02-01-2007, 08:28 AM
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#120 | | Member
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NewBrunswick, Canada
Posts: 149
Car: 84 TA Black/ Gold Engine: 383 With Vortec Heads Transmission: 700 R4 Lvl2 Performabuilt 9.5 Vert Axle/Gears: Moser 9" with 3.70 | Quote:
Originally Posted by 1lecamaro Ive seen alot of square tube LCA! edelbrock lakewood metco hotchkis
i love my Comp engineering, bolt in then weld em up. | I have been looking at these also. What type of exhaust are you running?Any clearance problems with the exhaust? Thanks |
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02-01-2007, 10:41 AM
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#121 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: edmonton, alberta
Posts: 391
Car: 1986 Camaro Z28, 1986 SC Engine: 305(LG4), 2.8V6 Transmission: 700R4, 700R4 Axle/Gears: 3.23, and 3.42 | its time for this thread to die, people just keep bringing it back! |
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02-01-2007, 02:34 PM
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#122 | | Member
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NewBrunswick, Canada
Posts: 149
Car: 84 TA Black/ Gold Engine: 383 With Vortec Heads Transmission: 700 R4 Lvl2 Performabuilt 9.5 Vert Axle/Gears: Moser 9" with 3.70 | Quote:
Originally Posted by 1986Z28OWNER its time for this thread to die, people just keep bringing it back! | So I guess you never had any questions about products when you started your project. I have had my car since new. It is in original condition with a few engine mods. Now I am starting to tear my car apart to do serious mods. First thing I did was ordered my crate motor. A 383 with Fastburn Vortec heads. Now I am planning other things . This is a winter project . So I will probaly be starting alot of the older threads back up after I read them  to get some opinions.  There is alot of good info here that i have seen so far. So  to all the people that have already done your mods  |
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02-05-2007, 04:48 PM
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#123 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Eastern Connecticut
Posts: 670
Car: 1989 RS Camaro Engine: 350 Carb(soon a 400) Transmission: 5-Speed/th350 Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 3.73 | alot of people need the info and get it but have a few more questions. "NEVER SAY DIE"
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02-05-2007, 11:28 PM
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#124 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 31
| I am going to have to run side exit through the front fender well and back under the rocker. I will use chambered tubes for the mufflers. |
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02-06-2007, 06:24 AM
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#125 | | Member
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NewBrunswick, Canada
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Car: 84 TA Black/ Gold Engine: 383 With Vortec Heads Transmission: 700 R4 Lvl2 Performabuilt 9.5 Vert Axle/Gears: Moser 9" with 3.70 | Right on that sounds like an interesting project.Show us some pics when you are done . I will not be going that root so i , will look at alternative styles. Thanks for the reply |
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02-06-2007, 08:33 AM
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#126 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida
Posts: 3,286
Car: 1987 Black IROC-Z (original owner) Engine: 350 Crate with TPI Transmission: 700R4 with 2400 SLP Stall | My vote is for Spohn, had them for five years now and the car is better now then when it was new. My opinion. |
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10-02-2007, 10:51 PM
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#127 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13
| Re: Best brand Camaro Subframe Connectors? (IROC Z) Hi,I have a stock 1989 Formula 350 with T-tops,which is the best sfc to use for T-top cars? I'd really like to make mine as solid as possible. If any third gen owner out there has experience with this I'd appreciate the advice! |
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10-03-2007, 05:00 AM
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#128 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Louisville Kentucky U.S.A.
Posts: 622
Car: 86 Iroc Z Engine: 406 Transmission: 350 Turbo Axle/Gears: 373 | Re: Best brand Camaro Subframe Connectors? (IROC Z) I have Spohn SFC's .......great fit and were easy to weld in.
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406..1.6 Roller Rockers...Victor Jr. Intake ..Holley 750 Double Pumper...S.F.I. Balancer and Flywheel...Ceramic coated Headers...Spohn Sub-Frame Connectors...Spohn Rear Control Arms...Jegs torque arm... Bradco custom race Converter...373 Posi...350 Turbo Transmission with Gear Venders over and under over drive unit...4inch Mufflex exhaust with SpinTech Muffler...18inch Chrome Iroc Wheels
12.08@114.6 1/4 mile She's got more in her http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w...ew_Exhaust.swf |
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