Rayzor32

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Napa/Carquest is valvoline, the napa oil isn't purple just the can is or maybe it was blue I dont remember the bottle just looks cool lol. Look on the back they both say ashland, kentucky. My friend that works at valvoline told me this, only plant in ashland is the valvoline plant.

Thirdgen6.6l

I alway want to try out new royal purple oil filter, but cant find it around here. next week or so imma travel to cali, pepboy carry it, imma buy a few.

Rayzor32

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The royal purple filters I saw at pepboys were $19.99!

Thirdgen6.6l

yea it last 12+k miles. I drove 500 miles a years ! Think how long Imma change my oil and for that 20 dollar its worth it

1 DwnCam

Wow! I remember pops using those back on the late 70's when I was knee high. I thought that company went out of business years ago. That's awesome that their still around. Has anybody used System 1 oil filters? They are a little spendy at $100 or so but I looked at one in person at PRI last December and they seemed like a quality product and completly re-usable.

paulo57509

If you don't like the color of a Purolator Pure1, just buy the Bosch Premium. They're supposedly the same filter. Unless you don't like black either.

evilemokid94

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what do you guys think about STP filters?

58mark

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crap on a plate. Never will think about putting one on my car.

Today I put on a NAPA gold... it was nice going upper class

evilemokid94

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reason i ask is my autozone has their mobile1 oil on sale and it comes with an stp filter

Rayzor32

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The STP is the worse one out there, Id use a fram before it, I had an stp fail on me causing dry starts.

If you want the deal from autozone, buy the oil and filter then take the filter back without a receipt and get the store credit and buy the filter you want. I do it all the time.

tekkitan

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Yep. Purolator is owned by Bosch and Mann+Hummel

evilemokid94

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what do you say to them when you take it back?

Rayzor32

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I just say I got this oil filter I want to return, I dont have a receipt but a store credit will be fine. If they ask why I say I dont need it or its the wrong kind.

evilemokid94

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hm, ill try this tomorrow when i get my oil, this is kind of the wrong board but what do you think of mobile1 oil?

Thirdgen6.6l

filter or oil. if its oil filter, mu aswer is fking nice !!

mikespeed

http://www.autozone.com/dyn/dyn/MEDI...pdf_slot_1.pdf

Is this the sale you were talking about? Not a bad deal, but thats about what I pay for a napa gold from napa, and 5qt jug of mobile one at walmart; both at regular price.

I was blessed by being the only member of famly that has any idea how to do anything to a car. Because of this I have roughly 8 vehicles that I get to maintain, so I buy a lot of oil from walmart and filters by the case at napa. I'm lucky in the filter dept, 5 of the 8 cars use the same filter.

I hate walmart, but they do have good prices on oil.
www.peopleofwalmart.com

transam85dudeman

Royal Purple. One of the best. BUT once you go purple you cant go back. muhahah. cost close to 90 bucks for 12 qt and 20 bucks for the filter. I encourage anyone to watch the production line for Royal Purple, the best in the business. many sure quality test and almost double the bursting pressure than fram. the BMW of oils. but heres a SEMA 09' CLIP of the Purple http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-7Acoo2Wb8 Amsoil is good oil.

evilemokid94

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oil

evilemokid94

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yeah thats the one, i picked it up today, that and some brake fluid, i was almost dry, took the entire bottle, i couldnt change my oil because sadly my car sank into the ground out back so next week when i get it moved onto the driveway ill get it jacked up and the oil changed

customblackbird

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if u had read this thread u would have seen many posts including my own about how bad the STP filters are. Ive even posted pics on the STP that i took apart after maybe 500miles. STP and AC delco are the same poop filter and so is fram.

the royal purple looks great actually. still tho, im not sure if im comfortable not changing my oil every 6000miles MAX, and depending on short drives etc u can build up water in the oil.

Thirdgen6.6l

stick with napa gold, wix, pure 1 and never look back !! and if you want pay high dollar, k&n and royal purple is top notch ! this thread is done !!

articwhiteZ

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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CTR-25-242/
Im going to try this filter out.my cost was only $60 shipped not the $80

filters down to 8 microns.. better them all the spin on filters.

we will see.

customblackbird

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when u get it, take it apart and show us what the insides look like. idk how it can filter down to 8 microns and not restrict flow

articwhiteZ

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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CTR-26-000/

this is what the filter charger looks like

sparkplug619

I have read a few tech articles on another forum about the best flowing oils and oil filters. From what i've read, the purolator filters were one of the best choices next to a specific brand bosch that I cant remember at the moment.

all4u

As far as oil filters, I think my cheap little Moroso filters do just fine. If you can't go with those, go with Wix, but as far as the rest of them, I'll pass. I've had issues with most of the ones that you see in the autoparts stores. Go Moroso, or go home.

Thirdgen6.6l

do u ever cut em open ? if its paper end cap, that be fck !!

customblackbird

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moroso has an oil filter? lol waaaaaaaaaaaat?

artic... that filter looks nice... looks as is the filter media being round has less surface area than a folded pleat filter like all the ones were looking at.

articwhiteZ

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will take it apart and take some photos to night.. i got the small one
was on Sale.. at canton. $55.00 boy it's small....LOL

I have a Butt Load of the fram HP4 racing filters.. still.. the Funny thing is i was under may car (taking the headers off ) sold them. and i Have a WIX racing filter on it now.. it was installed 8 years ago. so i dont remember. could have just been at work and wanted to do the Oil. and orderd one.. Looks Cool.. when I take it off after pulling the eng. ill cut it open and do photos also..

will be doing a full set of Photos on the 383 to see why it stopped!!
i know i must have spun a main. 2500RPM and it just stopped..just like you turnd it off...lol that was 8 years ago..

customblackbird

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that happened to me the other day on the highway.... i freaked out, i was just cruizing at 60mph and the engine just cut off, no irattic RPM or stumble, just died, tach went to 0 instantly. i glided over to the side and popped the hood. eventually i checked for everything including fuel pressure ( i have a guage on the fuel rail permanently) couldnt figure it out, it would crank but no fire. ended up that one (the gray plug) popped up off the connector on the MSD blaster coil... it musta been up a 1/8" where it wasnt even noticable! i pushed it down and it started right up. maybe thats what happened to u? lol.

articwhiteZ

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not so lucky... eng will not turn over even By hand..lol that was 8 years ago.. then this sep i orderd a Brand new ALL Aftermarket 427 SBC TO REPLACE IT!! and alot of other goodies

all4u

customblackbird, Moroso has been making oil filters for a VERY LONG time now. I've been using them because I get them cheap. If you were being sarcastic, well, no one mentioned them but royal purple was mentioned and also K&N, so I thought I would bring up what I replaced those oil filters with.

IROCK ZZ

i only buy factory filters, or napa gold filters. all filters you will get from napa are made by wix, and all the chassis parts are made by dana corporation (people who make the dana series axles).only the best.

DANNY25SS

I ran the couple different filters on my racing engines and always had pressure issues... when i switched to mobil 1 filter the best thing i noticed other then cleaner oil (less debris when i drained it) was that it would maintain 70 psi at idle and even comming off the track in 110 degree heat it would keep 55-60 psi not bad for running 7000 rpm..... since then i have changed to a remote system with a 2 qt filter setup into an oil cooler for the race car its a napa filter but its made by wix and most of the top super dirt late model guys run the same...now i run nothing but mobil 1 oil and filters in my street cars and again my oil press in my car is never been better!!!

so that all being said best would be:
WIX/NAPA
MOBIL 1
K&N (i seen some modified drivers run them)

ellocojorge

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while im glad i read this thread and became more informed, im also ticked, that i kissed so much fram ***.

ShMaCk2004

you can buy stuff at walmart and return it to autozone with no receipt and you get more money back lol

4playta

I would have to disagree with that statement. Some guy did a test on bobistheoilguy with a bunch of filters, he dumped a bunch a talcum powder in clean oil and then sucked it through different filters into a clear rubber tube, then capped off both ends, let the powder settle to the bottom of the tube and compared what filters filtered the best.

#1 was Purolator Pure one.
#2 was Mobil 1 and K&N same exact filter by the way!
#3 was Wix/Napa gold.

Bosche, fram tough guard and an assortment of other filters was right up there with the WIX.

Now for the problems...Purolator Pureones can is like tinfoil thin and I almost lost a motor due to a rock puncture in one, plus unless you are going to change your oil every 3k you can run into flow issues.

Mobil 1 and K&N both quality filters with thick cans designed to flow well over an extended oil change interval however very noticable difference in how much better the purolator filtered.

Wix/Napa Gold is also a quality filter with a thick can, however did not filter as well as the Mobil or K&N (The difference was about the same as the Mobil/K&N compared to the Purolator Pure One) and it is not synthetic media so flow restrictions could become an issue over time.

The one filter he did not test was Amsoil EAO and after comparing published filtration data the Amsoil appears to filter right on par with the Purolator something like 99.2% @ 20 microns vs Amsoils 98.7 @ 15 microns.

The bad thing about Amsoil filters are they are friggin expensive though $17 a pop at a local auto store who sells amsoil.

The good thing about them is they are rated 25,000 miles and I practice extended oil change intervals in all our daily driver vehicals and change oil once a year using Amsoil SSO oil.

In my Trans Am though I change the oil more often and opted to use Mobil one filter and Mobil 1 oil from Wally World in the 5qt jug.

Bottom line is what is the best filter for one person may not be the best for another, Example, if you change your oil every 3k would you want to use a $17 Amsoil filter? Probably not! If you are looking at doing Extended oil change intervals of 10k or more would you want to use a Purolator Pure one? Probably not!

If you are a cronic oil changer and change your synthetic oil after 3,000 miles then the truth is just about any oil filter will serve you well, it has already been proven by used oil analysis that the oil filter plays very little roll in the end condition of the oil when a sample was taken...your air filter is a whole different story though and plays a huge roll in letting contaminants into the oil in the first place. If you want cleaner oil, use a better air filter, Not K&N, Spectre HPR, ECT, but get a quality paper filter!

p0w3r5

HOLY **** ***** i bought a fram with that rough guard protection crap on the end well i am going to take that back and get one of the ones that was mentioned above man i am glad i read this thread life saver and a half glad i waited on changing my oil to lol thanks very much

transam85dudeman

id never trust stp, stp is a joke, think of it like tap water for oil, causes more problems than prevents

customblackbird

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just saying i never saw a moroso filter before. i kno they make oil products, oil pans etc just never saw an actual filter before.

all4u

Taken directly from their website.

http://www.moroso.com/catalog/catego...?catcode=20002

Yeah, it's nothing flashy and it doesn't come in a fancy package, but I honestly believe that it is the best filter. Use one, cut it open and see all the little stuff it captures. I'm not a big fan of STP, Fram, or Bosch, but you could sucker me into a K&N. I like the morosos, and the best thing about them, when you get the 2 quart capacity oil filters, and it sticks out too low, and you bottom your car out at Wendy's on their stupid and useless speedbumps, you only scratch and dent it, it doesn't break open! It is a tough filter.

sparkplug619

I just bought one of those new style filters for my girls ecotec cobalt. I went through the packages thinking someone played a joke a cut it open and left only the filter inside.

anybody see one of these?

customblackbird

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no but that reminds me of a mercedes oil filter... its just like that, u plug it into the engine by screwing a cap off... and on it is a long plastic shaft with orings... u cant mess the orings up or the pressure is all messed up.

the filter support looks like an Ecore and is poopy.

all4u

I've seen it before, I had a hard time getting to the oil filter on my buddy's crapilier. It's the right filter, just looks funny.

RED86Z28

The anti Fram crap has been being spread for years. Im not going to say they are the best but they work just fine.

Rayzor32

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That moroso oil filter looks pretty good, high flow and 27 microns.. Where do u buy them at?

all4u

You could probably order them from Jegs or Summit. My Uncle has a performance shop and I know he orders his from VSI but you have to set up an account with them and there is a minimum order through them. My cost comes out to less than the K&N's at Autozone.

wilmil

AC Delco filters are made by Lee

paulo57509

AC-Delco oil filters are made by Champion Labs.

90 L98 TransAm

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Winner.

Plain Jane Orange Frams since 1984 including '84 TA I bought used, '90 TA I bought brand new 20 years ago, and Honda Civic I bought brand new 17 years ago. Have had no engine problems and all are still running strong.

Recently started using the upgraded Frams and full synthetic oil in all vehicles.

Class action lawsuits would quickly shut down any company whose filters were destroying expensive engines (huge attorneys' fees to be made).