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These guys used to be called "Thirdgenresource" and used to be a sponsor of this site.. a few years back. After a bunch of BS and basically doing the same thing they are doing with you guys, their sponsorship was pulled... this was back in 02 or 03.. then.. Roy decided to change names and incorporate 4thgens into the works and to get away from the bad name Thirdgenresource had.. changed it to Fbodymotorsports..
they were also a sponsor on LS1tech as Fbodymotorsports until people realized this company was a joke.. they have been removed from there.. Roy is a nice guy.. but his employee's suck.. he blamed it mostly on his "now" exwife who used to handle all the processing of orders..
they still suck.. and i would never do business with them...
and neither would I.
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Now Fbody motorsports is owned by another camrao company. That place is the last place I would ever call for parts. There shipping is slow and customer service SUCKS!
In March I ordered an aftermarket aerowing by phone for my 86 TA. The first shock was the $150.00 crate/freight charge, in addition to the costs of the part. The item never arrived, although the charge appeared very quickly in my visa statement. After several e-mails, they sent a reply, that they had been trying to contact the manufacturer. After several more weeks with no contact from them, I began trying to email daily and call several times a day. They never attempted to contact me. I finally called the credit card company, disputed the charge, and got it refunded. I have never heard another word from F-Bodymotorsports. Ordered the aerowing from Classic, and was pleasently surprized to find out that the shipping is going to be about half as much, even though the item costs a few dollars more. The item is on backorder, however Classic will bill my card when they get the item, right before they ship it to me, which makes me a lot more comfortable waiting a while for a back-ordered item.
I used to go to them a lot back in the day... I ordered a new radio pod for my 87...brand new, shipped quick no problem. Ordered a new radio trim plate...they sent the one with the small opening. Called, and had some trouble getting help. Finally a guy got on the phone that sounded really annoyed...which annoyed me. But he went sifting through some product with a tape measure and found the bigger opening plate. Sent it right out then.
After that...I havent been able to get any kind of service. I tried calling a bunch of times, got a real cute sounding southern girl...who could either answer my question...or would tell me I had to wait for someone to get back to me. Which of course never happened. Been dealing with modern day muscle ever since with no issues.
I hate to knock a company, word of mouth is huge, but I will never do business with F-Body Motorsports again.
I ordered weatherstripping for my 85 TA on February 26th. Pieces I ordered were a t-top seal kit and the door-glass wiper seal. The wiper seal arrived in about 2 weeks, cool. Come the end of March, the t-top pieces were not in. I called and was told, "We had a truck come in this morning, they'll be on their way tomorrow."
Two more weeks passed, and no seals. Call again, same line. I look into my statement, and they hadn't charged the seals. Call again in another 3 weeks, same line. The best I can figure is they dropped the part number after I ordered it, as I cannot find the same one on the site anymore. However, I was never given a call or a fast email saying this part has been discontinued.
Same problem here. placed an order mid april, was charged 169.00 before the end of tha month and still have no recieved my parts.
I have made several attempts to get in touch with some one, the best they can do is take my info and make a promise to call.
I would really be interested in knowing if we can all get together and take this to the next step, what ever that might be. We have to keep this going. We must together make a stand.
I called them for a shipping quote on a 91-92 camaro bumper cover and front gfx, adn they told me almost 500. Granted, it is a big item, but if I can get a motor and trans from NY to cali for 650, how could a bumper cover and front gfx cost almost 500 from SC to Cali? Not to mention that they wanted almost 200 for a used bumper cover, and 100 for a used (and broken) front gfx...
LMFAO@ghetto. Cute sounding southern girl, they all sound that way, but they all aint cute.
Yeah..my friends have an upstanding joke, "Well...she sounded cute on the phone..." It came from me talking to a girl that "sounded" hot on the phone, and the 200lbs that showed up. I still catch hell about that one.
I'm glad I never ordered from this company. I know some business's have problems time to time. For example I'm not real happy with Spohn right now, but I hope to get past it. Best of luck to you guys.
they will only rip you off!! horrible experience with them. the Better Business Bureau should shut them down for good. I encourage all of you to log a complaint with the North Carolina Better Business Bureau against F Body Motorsports. They are by far THE WORST BUSINESS IVE EVER DEALT WITH IN MY LIFE - and im not just tlaking about cars/parts related..i mean ANY business.
I wait for the day those hacks fold up shop and hopefully get sued for every penny they stole from hard working people. Id like to see them all out on the street begging for pennies.
I WOULDN'T PISS ON THE STAFF IF THEY WERE BURNING ALIVE IN FRONT OF ME.
Ok lol. We all understand that you have all been screwed by the same company. What many of you may already know or don't know that Summit or Jegs will price match an advertised online price for any product that they car. Period. Purchased a nitrous kit form Jegs that I had them price math from rpm outlet. Cost under $500.
I suggest you all take care of your homework assaignemnt tonite and that is to resaerch the next thing you need to order first and then see if a reputable company will price match the lowest advertised price you found.
I ordered bought & paid for a complete t-top headliner from "F-Body Motorsports" and it was the worst telephone transaction I have ever made!!! It was months before I finally got someone to answer my phone calls, I had given up leaving messages, and I had to threaten "Wayne" with going to the A.G. for the state of N.C. to get my money back. I missed every car show that summer )last year) and it wasn't till mid fall that I finally got the new headliner installed. I bought one from "Hawks" and it was an excellent transaction. I have purchased a few items from Hawks at this point, and I recommend them highly!
Last edited by PJ Reynolds; 08-29-2007 at 03:22 PM.
Reason: I mis named the vendor I had a problem with!!
Go see Jay and Eric with Zeus Performance. They have parted from fbody and Roy is around Zeus at times. 704-597-0660.
I recently heard of this company as well. When I checked the Domain Registration is belonged to F-Body motorsports. However I just checked it again and now the information has been changed to Eric at Zeus. Eric, Jay and Roy are best friends and have been for years. In my opinion Roy and Jay could not run F-Body Motorsports and I am not willing to give this NEW company my money.
Wow! I am glad I read this thread. IT seems that they only care about thier physical location and either don't care, or don't have the manpower to run an online component. I was seriously considering a road trip with the fam next week down to NC just to check the place out and buy some RS emblems - well there's nearly 200 bucks they lost from me. H E L L yeah count me in! They are probably lying about having a manufacturing deal on the emblems anyway. I'd probably be buying junkyard RS emblems for 200 bucks lol - I say lets get 'em.
I ordered center caps from them over a year ago they charged my card right away! And I still have yet to see them I'm right there with the rest of you THEY SUCK!!! And if they ever read this I hope they spent my free money wisely cause they missed out on a lot more parts that I bought from other companies. I too left them e-mails and called during business hours to only get their answering machine
I will add my 2 cent worth as well. I ordered some rear sway bar bushings 2months ago and all I have received from them was a credit card bill and when I called they had not even pulled the part for shipping. Good thing I did not order some of the other things I was looking at.
P.S. I live only 2 to 3hrs from the place and they were going to charge 10 dollars s&h!!!! I could drive there and back myself and not use 10 dollars in gas. Will never use them again.
Let's keep this thread ALIVE!!! Ordered my hard-top abs headliner kit on June 17, 2008. 10 weeks now and NOTHING from them. I have called every week since week 6. Talked to a guy yesterday and said the "girl" who i usually talk to is "out of the office" and that she was the ONLY one who could find stuff out. I have got the run around for weeks now and have several other friends in the same boat as all of us poor unfortunate saps, lol.
Let's make sure that this thread stays very, very visible.
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P.S. I live only 2 to 3hrs from the place and they were going to charge 10 dollars s&h!!!! I could drive there and back myself and not use 10 dollars in gas. Will never use them again.
Hrmm..
2 hours each way, avereage speed 60mph = 120 miles each way
240 miles round trip
Just to save you all the problems of dealing with these guys, buy your parts from HAWKS. I have never bought from fbody motorsports even though there last shop was 2 miles from the race shop i work at. I ordered a few parts from hawks and there at my house in two days. I live in charlotte and strickley do buisness with hawks only. My father used to run a tool truck and had him ask fbody about a hood. they would never give him a price. My cash wasnt good enough for them. So i bough my ss hood from the same vendor they buy there hoods from and he brought it to the auto fair. Free shipping and cheaper. Save yourself the hassle and do the guys at HAWK a favor and spend your money with him. shipping won't be any more seeing that south carolina is only down the road.
11 weeks, 2days since I ordered my ABS headliner kit. Still nothing. I've called weekly since week 6. Get the "run-around" every time. Gave them a fair chance. Now I am demanding a refund.
Please keep this thread at the "TOP!!!"
I am a business owner and never wish failure upon anyone. When a business continues without care for their customers and their needs then I have to say it's time to make a radical change or CLOSE THE *#!@ doors.
Fbodymotorsports.com/Young's F-Body it's time for a change.
Because they somehow think by using a 'site sponsor' they are getting a great deal.
-- Joe
Thats the point isn't it? I would assume that if an advertiser was ripping the members of 3rd Gen off then the administrators would refuse their business until they met certain standards.
Jegs will price match an advertised online price for any product that they car. Period.
That's not necessarily true either, even though they advertise it. Just a few months ago another member was complaining that they wouldn't price match a set of advertised headers even after he spoke with a rep, they told him that they just couldn't go that low.
I just had to join this site even thought I have a 4th gen so I could get in on the bashing of F-body Motorsports. I placed an order 4 Aug 2008 for a SLP CAI. They wasted no time charging my card 2 days later. They advertised $16 for shipping and charged me $38. I called to ask why and was told shipping has skyrocketed. I have spoke with Denise (secretary), Todd (shipping) and one of the owners then I talked to the big man (T.R. Young) today. so in the past 3 weeks I have talked to all the employees and the one that I seem to need to talk to is never there. TR said he would call me back (sure). To make a long story short I filed a complaint with the BBB last Friday. Then I called SLP to find out if they even ordered my item (suppose to be drop shipped) Joey there said they have not had any orders from them for a while. So I am with the boycotting of these AHOLES. I will let you all know if I ever get my CAI. I dont part with almost $300 very easy. I will get action. Thanks for letting me vent here.
12 weeks tomorrow since i ordered my ABS headliner kit. Get lies every time I talk to them. I have made 14 phone calls to them (long distance) and they have never called me back when they stated they would. At week 9, I was told the owner would look into a new vendor and get back with me ASAP. I had to call everytime and "she" still had no answer for me as to the status of my order other than the "vendor" is really behind. I have had friends order their headliner kits from other vendors and received them within 1-2 weeks. i am usually a very patient individual and give a business ample time to fill an order, but 12 weeks is unacceptable!
I have tried calling several times today and no answer. Just the answering machine. I better get my $$ back before they declare a chapter 7, 11 or 13, LOL!!!
Guys this isnt good. I just took my car there this morning (87 GTA Vert). I just picked it up from a shop in Monroe, NC avoid (Get-N-Gear) that has given me a royal screwing on an engine swap. I thought I would take it to Young's F-Body to "get it done right". D*** I hope I get a different experience than what I am reading here!!!
I have not been able to get a hold of them today. They must be reading these threads, lol!!!!!! Been trying to get a refund!
I am in the process of having my bank reverse the charges. It's been three months since my card was charged, but you've got to love small town banks and their great customer service. They are investigating for me as I am typing this.
Fortunately, in my line of work I know many attorneys and I have one who is going to address the issue this week.
So yesterday I filed a report with the federal trade commission and today I went to the bank where my sister in law is the manager and she filled out reports to get my money back. I tried calling them today and the phone rang 7 times and then the beep beep sound. keep it going guys. I want these losers out of business
Same thing here. Tried calling all day yesterday and no contact. I have been trying all day today and still the same. At least yesterday they had the answering machine on, but today NOTHING!!!
After getting messed with for the last 6 weeks, I decided to do a little searching for youngsfbody.com and found this thread. I should have searched before placing an order.
on 07/21/2008 placed an order for the right Door Switch Trim Piece and both Door Handle Bezels. The handle bezels came to the house quickly but not the switch trim piece. I called to see what the deal was ~ on back order. I also asked about the left side door switch trim piece and was told they could get it so I order that. The credit card was immediately charged. 2 weeks later I called to see what the deal was and Denise told me they could NOT get the left side, a refund would be made and they would ship out the right side that day. 2 weeks later I see nothing so I called again. I was told the same damn thing! I called again today 9/9/2008 and talked to some guy name "TR". Supposedly he is going to make it happen ~ one piece ship out, the money returned for the other part they can't get.
If I don't see a refund on my credit card with in 2 days, I am calling the credit card company and making a dispute. I am also thinking about buying what little they sell on ebay and then never paying. http://stores.ebay.com/fbody-legacy8202 What can they do, call the Ebay police?? Ha ha. I just want them to have a hassle!
How freak'n hard is to ship an item that is in stock and refund $32 for a part you can't get?
A couple of years ago I decided to buy a jongbloed hood. I called them and got a quote. Then I called the actual company that made them and had them ready to ship but it was about $50 more because of shipping. Well I decided to go with F-body Motorsports. Made the order, was told to call back in a week for a tracking number. Also I was told the shipping would be about 55-65 bucks shipped to a business. Cool, it was on the way. Called 1 week and got "We haven't received the number yet" call back in a few days.Did that several times and it started sounding like a broken record. Nobody knew anything about my order. They mailed my receipt to me and saw that they charged me a $15 boxing fee... they didn't even have the hood in stock!! They had to order it from the first guy I called. It was over 1 month and many phone calls before I got my hood. I told them to refund my card because I wasn't happy with getting jerked around and I finally got my hood. And figure, I had to pay the truck driver $99 for shipping for my hood.
THE WORST EXPERIANCE EVER
okay guys i've never shopped at this place and it looks like thats a good thing. To the guy with the lawyer buddy try and help out everyone else on this thread as well however u can. For everyone who hasn't gotten their part threaten lawsuit (and b prepared to follow through), Call your credit card company and get a dispute started. Ohh for those making long distant phone call if you get a lawyer and go to court then make sure you nail 'em to the wall for everythign you can lol. Far as going there and beating some a-s-s it wont help u any in the long run, you pay for their vacation pretty much. And those who have contacted the bbb did you send them a copy of this thread? Also Why not have every person on this site who has ever dealt with them (under any name) each send an e-mail to the bbb at the same date around the same time as to maximize exposure I STRONGLY SUGGEST THIS!!
Anyway thats what i would do if i were in your situation, also as to help keep this post up post on here once a day and if anyone wants to ask this sites admin to put it on the homepage as a "special article" or something. Unless they don't care that were getting screwed over by a company?
if you scroll down and read the report it sounds like fbodymotorsports has fixed all your problems....... hmm well that sounds like a false statement lol, i'm telling you you should try my e-mail idea..... anyway good luck to you all and def keep this post going and let admin see it
The only person that can really do anything about this is the District Attorney for the county that they have their business address in. Nobody here has any loss or damages thats amounting to what it would take to hire a lawyer. Don't say "Class Action" because there still isn't enough money/damages or people affected. Someone needs to bring this to the attention of the D.A. and have their consumer protection division (usually one Deputy D.A.) take a look and see if there is sufficient fraud involved. They can get a court order and get F-Body Motorsports to cease business. They can also file criminal charges if there is enough proof of intent to defraud. In the mean time, everybody better start scrambling to get their money refunded anyway they can because my crystal ball sees a business about to go under...Way under.
Here's how we do it. Someone who lives in the county where F-Body Motorsports does business has to step up and take the lead. Once that's established, through IM's he gets the name, address, and telephone number and a very short and to the point synopsis of what happened to each person. He then prints out the information and takes it to the District Attorney's Office. If they want to go deeper then the D.A. investigator can contact each member by telephone and get a statement. You might be surprised. The D.A. may already have a file on this business. It's really the only way we as a group can do anything. Otherwise we're just crying on each other's shoulders.
Thats the point isn't it? I would assume that if an advertiser was ripping the members of 3rd Gen off then the administrators would refuse their business until they met certain standards.
This company hasn't been advertised on TGO in a long time. I used to moderate this forum and I spent a decent effort putting together a petition to TGO's admins to remove FBM/TGR from the list of site sponsors and remove their links, which was successful. This was a few years ago, and I'm stunned to see so many people STILL using them to buy parts after so many years of countless problems. Hawks is the place to go, and always has been.
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Originally Posted by DayShaVuGTA
Guys this isnt good. I just took my car there this morning (87 GTA Vert). I just picked it up from a shop in Monroe, NC avoid (Get-N-Gear) that has given me a royal screwing on an engine swap. I thought I would take it to Young's F-Body to "get it done right". D*** I hope I get a different experience than what I am reading here!!!
On the flip side of all of this, people who live locally to FBM tend to have a good experience with them. Roy was generally a nice guy but he was not able to run Thirdgen Resource's web division well at all. When he got out, the new guy posted a thread here on TGO promising to address everyone's issues and try to make things better. There was a glimmer of hope back then, but apparently nothing has changed. My point is that the people themselves tend to be genuinely decent people, so visiting the shop may yield good results.
Unfortunately, I've heard some bad stories about a certain LS1/T56 swap that they did, so I personally wouldn't bother with them at all.
Originally Posted by USAFretired I dont know if you are still on this board but if you are and you do indeed know the guuys down there at FBM
Maybe you can help me get my money or the part I ordered. I am a 4th Gen owner and ordered a CAI for my Z28. 4 Aug 2008 order placed money taken 7 Aug. Have not heard from them since. I have soke with TR Young and he never even had the nerve to return a call after he "checked into it".The item was suppose to be drop shipped from SLP. I called SLP 5 Sept and surprise to me no order has ever been placed. Please feel free to use my name if you talk to them . Its Neil Crihfield. I am sure they know me now since the BBB and FTC have both been notified of their bad practices.
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Sorry to hear of your issues with FBM. I won;t make any excuses and I still hold high regards for TR, however, the rest of the crew are young and you know how works when your trying to run a business. No promises but I'll stop in and make mention of your situation.
Regards,
2kflhr __________________
I found this other post on here that 2kflhr wrote about being friends with TR young so I PMed him with this letter and I am sure by now you have read his reply. Yesterday I went to my bank where my sister is the manager and filed a fraud charge. She thinks I will be getting my money back soon. From MC not from FBM. so to date I have filed with the BBB, FTC and my bank. Not to mention all the bad mouthing I have been doing here and on camaroz28.com. Had my son start threads on fullthrottlev6.com and the other Camaro board he is on. We have 2 4th gens so he lost a bit of business from us. Keep it going guys.
i once was going to order like $500 worth of parts from thirdgen resource, I decided to cancel the order a day or two later and I received in the mail a invoice which included a restocking fee charged to my credit card. i had numberous problems trying to get them to remove the charge because they never processed anything to be shipped. I got the typical bullshit responses and I got charged anyways for not even receiving a part.
Good companies will only charge a restocking fee if the item is returned. I never had one to begin with, nor was it shipped.
Hey please dont put all young people in same category....
Sounds like kevin knows what hes talking bout i say follow his advice...
Ohh and to all those who live close and have had good experiences i truly am happy that you guys didnt get screwed out of any money, but wats that saying? "one right doesn't....."
Ohh and to all those who live close and have had good experiences i truly am happy that you guys didnt get screwed out of any money, but wats that saying? "one right doesn't....."
What's they're saying is; F-Body Motorsports doesn't want anybody complaining at their doorstep, up close and personal, but they don't have a problem jacking people around that live out-of-state.
umm i wasnt arguing that point..... And yeah i hear you soon as it gets close to home things change, sadly thats the way the way the world seems to work now
I'm stunned to see so many people STILL using them to buy parts after so many years of countless problems. Hawks is the place to go, and always has been.
Exactly. These guys cheated my sister out of parts for her 84 Camaro, so I would never buy anything from them. Hawks is the way to go.
Some of us are new owners that have waited all our lives to get our car. Then are a little quick to jump at a good price from a loser like F-BODY MOTORSPORTS. I just had to say something to get this to the top.
i dont mean to rain on anyones parade here but would putting them out of business do any good?
HEre in az if you own a business and file for bankruptcy, you dont have to take care of your debts (with some exceptions) and in 6 months you can open the same business under a different name. Whats to stop them from that? (assuming the laws are alike) In any case i would honsetly throw a fit with everyone i could until things got fixed, call them, email them, all that, everything you guys are doing is great but you have to do it with a united front, not well this guy fro CO just said hed sue, then a guy from NY etc, instead it should be : hey every out of state sale is threatening to have us shut down ya know? For locals call the news, we do it in az. YOu send your issue with businesses in and one of the anchors sorts it out and broadcasts it for everyone to see.
Master_disaster, the problem is that no matter how many emails you send and how many times you call they will never respond. Thats the main reason people are so pissed off. If one person there would have stepped up and said hey sorry we charged you $38 instead of the advertised $16 for shipping I would have let it go. Of course that is if I would have ever got the part I ordered. Never was ordered according to SLP and it is in stock. I think 1.5 months is way longer than it should be for a stock item. Ordered a part from Summit Tuesday and got it Wednesday. So how do they know it will be $38 if it was never ordered. Being from Central PA I cant do much with them except the routes I have already taken. BBB, Federal Trade Commission and filed a fraud claim against my MC debit with the bank. Any other ideas or locals want to get involved please do. Also they should not be bankrupt since all they do is take money and never send the parts.
Guys this isnt good. I just took my car there this morning (87 GTA Vert). I just picked it up from a shop in Monroe, NC avoid (Get-N-Gear) that has given me a royal screwing on an engine swap. I thought I would take it to Young's F-Body to "get it done right". D*** I hope I get a different experience than what I am reading here!!!
Exactly. These guys cheated my sister out of parts for her 84 Camaro, so I would never buy anything from them. Hawks is the way to go. 
