Orr89RocZ

Once this manifold is made, whoever buys it can measure runner tube dimensions and length, as well as port size/etc. Then if we are lucky someone can flow test one

That way we can estimate what numbers will be made

1989GTATransAm

Brian did state that the id of the runners was 1.70 inch. Not bad but as you indicated the intake manifold will tell the tale. It has been awhile since he has has the modified 3rd in for testing purposes. I would have thought we would have heard something by now.

brandotron

YES!!! That's sooo much better than Turtle Ram!

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LVZ2881

consider me in for 1 if the price is reasonable...

all4u

When the heck can we order this thing?!?! I can't wait darn it.

rv1890

dont know if this has been mentioned or not but there was a small clip of a new bbk tpi intake in the new super chevy magazine. No pics or prices though. It was in the section of new products.

MP81

I think I'd go for buying one.

SLP_GTA

just waiting to write the check.

Iroc'nthe87

700 dollars.

RevItUpZ28

Yeah, as stated before, the newest Super Chevy magazine says that it will be called the SSI intake manifold. 1 3/4" tubular, 14 inch long runners. Says at 5,074 rpm it made 50 horsepower/52 ft lb of torque over stock TPI.

doc

Just how is this supposed to be an improvement over the SuperRam or the Stealthram. I dont get it! Sorry guys, I think BBK is very late to our party.

I like my idea that I proposed here one or two years ago. An LS1/LS6 type intake for our L98s. Someone had posted that it would not work, but I still say BS to that. I'd be glad to help a company design it, I know how to do it.

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1989GTATransAm

"Just how is this supposed to be an improvement over the SuperRam or the Stealthram. I dont get it!"

1. Potentially a larger and better runner design.
2. Potentially a better intake manifold design.
3. Regarding the Stealthram it will be CARB legal.

We will have to wait and see.

Orr89RocZ

hopefully, MUCH EASIER to install than superram

DITTO, i'd love to see composite intakes and one like the ls6 would be sweet on our cars. There is no reason it wouldnt work. Such a lightweight piece too

IROCThe5.7L

Orr89RocZ

keep stock fuel rails over HSR and stock lines as well fuel line for HSR is 80-100 bucks extra

doc

1. Potentially a larger and better runner design.
--------I'd like to see some runner dimensions, then we will know, but by looking at the design I dont see better flow charteristics.

2. Potentially a better intake manifold design.
--------Same here as above, lets see some back to back tests. I simply do not see the hype here, i see new real advantage.

3. Regarding the Stealthram it will be CARB legal.
--------That the one issue with the StealthRam.

And then someone mentioned maybe easier to assemble than the SuperRam.
This is really a joke! This turtle ram (cant we come up with a better name?) assembles same as my SuperRam. The runners bolt to the plenum from the underside, the same issues that the SuperRam has. Tell me about it, I've assembled my SuperRam too many times.

This Turtle Ram is very similar to the SuperRam is design, large top plenum,
short runners, and an intake manifold. I see nothing new here or an improvement. BBK copied the SuperRam in principle.

1989GTATransAm

In the other thread Bryan mention they were changing the bolt pattern so that the bolts would be accessable from the top.

"I see nothing new here or an improvement." Reminds me of when people look at a picture and everyone sees something different.

BretD 88GTA

One more thing to note: The SuperRam is DISCONTINUED. If you want one one, you have to search eBay or classifieds and hope you find one with all the pieces.

If BBK releases their intake, you'll be able to buy it from Summit, JEG's ...etc.

92droptopws6

[quote=Orr89RocZ;3740651]hopefully, MUCH EASIER to install than superram



OH COME ON!!!!!!!! You gotta love 150 bolts

david068513

Ill take one probley

KENS80V

BBK website now says it will be available winter 2008.

Kennerz

I'll take one if they make a version for vortec heads....

master_disaster

im down, out in winter of 08 and preliminary priving is $699...hmm still better than HSR, im totally in for this, ill have my motor sitting in my room waiting for it

3.492rs

I got the money, i'll give it a go

Street Lethal

... and that's just on one side!

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im in

Orr89RocZ

HSR is 650 or less with fuel lines, complete bolt in but that price is much more 'reasonable' or expected for this system

bigals87z28

First off...Im not sure about it. Looks like the intake design was ripped from the 3.1/3.4 60* V6's

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1143/...e88e63.jpg?v=0

Price would be a big factor, but the intake still carries a lot of the problems of a LTR or shorter LTR intake design, does it not? It would be a good budget intake for modded 305's and 350's with a few add ons, but the quest for the greatest replacement TPI intake will go on.