84RIceEater

you can thank the imports for those hoods.

btw... your welcome.

iansane

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I'm sure we can thank things like F1 and the aerospace industry to capitalize on the light weight of CF. Imports just have plastered it all over cars.

84RIceEater

yes and intergrated into the car industry. otherwise you would have be still stuck on fiberglass.

iansane

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Okay, the same type of people want it for just looks regardless of what kind of car they drive. Import, Domestic, Euro, whatever. You're saying that imports are the sole reason CF is popular in automotive applications? That's kind of like saying chrome is only popular because of old hot rods. There used to be an old adage, "If it don't go, chrome it." But even without muscle cars, I'm sure big chrome wheels, chrome door handles, chrome chevy bowties would still be popular. Yikes.

Your user info says 402hp 'teg. Is it a turbo setup? Have it dyno'd before?

84RIceEater

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it is a turbo set up and yes it has dynoed. yes i do personally believe that is the sole reason or at least the biggest reason why its mainstream.

energycontacts

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I guess this hood never took off. what a waste. whoever was going to make it should have. business is a gamble sometimes, i probably would have bought one if it was in good quality. too bad.

Live Free

well on one of the celica forums I frequent a car was hit and it simply bent the hood. made the resin look like **** from the stretching but another member purchased it and repainted it.

xxpotandaxx

they make some really neet c/f cowl induction hoods on here



http://www.andysautosport.com/chevro...2_1992_camaro/

key2hwy

Carbon fiber is not about the "LOOK". The weight to strength ratio is what it's about. The avarage hood is about 30+ lbs for the steel version as compaired to about 5 lbs for the carbon fiber version. Replacing the hood save us 25+ lbs on the front end. For the Firebird's and camaro's thats a-lot of weight you don't neet to haul around. BTW they are paintable and soon available in colors but don't count on a color match to your car.

josht442

Okay, here's a good question for you guys.

Hoods that are sold on websites for about $600 only have a thin layer of carbon fiber and the rest is just fiberglass , they are only for looks. If I were to make a carbon fiber hood who would buy one that only has one cheap layer for around $1000 or would you pay more for a fully functional 100% carbon fiber hood for around $2000-$2500?

xxpotandaxx

I hate when People Bump Old threads . . .

iansane

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I don't. I'd rather see bumped old threads that add info vs starting a new thread. Makes searching easier.

AussieIROC66

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Carbon Creations has a reputation for making 'Grade A' carbon fiber products that are free of defects and have a great clear-coat finish. Their carbon fiber hoods are quickly gaining them a solid reputation throughout the industry.

82-92 Camaro.......$519.20

AussieIROC66

About this Manufacturer:
VIS is widely renowned as the most quality carbon fiber hood manufacturer in the industry. Their hoods have clean weaves and great clearcoat finishes. These guys set the benchmark for the rest of carbon fiber hood manufacturers in terms of quality.

$671.60.........82-92

AussieIROC66

Frequently Asked Questions

Why buy a carbon fiber hood?
Carbon fiber hoods give cars a fantastic custom race look that is very popular. Carbon fiber hoods come with a clear gelcoat that allows you to see the clean weave of the carbon fiber and that makes it so you don't have to paint your hood. Additionally, carbon fiber hoods are almost always lighter than factory hoods, so they can help you improve performance. Vented carbon hoods are a great option because they relieve your engine of trapped heat, are lighter weight than factory hoods, and give your car a race car appearance.

Will I have to paint my carbon fiber hood when I receive it?
No. In fact, for a lot of people the whole reason for buying a carbon hood is to get that new-age cutting edge race look. The hood has a clear-coat finish and can literally be installed on your car out of the box. Because carbon hoods are made to be installed without painting, they are often a more affordable option than fiberglass or steel hoods after you account for the paint cost. (For anyone who really wants to paint a carbon hood, it is indeed possible since the clear coat finish responds well to primer.)

Are there different "grades" or qualities of carbon fiber hoods?
Yes. The terms carbon is used loosely. Some companies make the entire hood (skin and skeleton) out of carbon. This is rare since carbon is an expensive material. Some manufacturers make the hood skin out of carbon, and make the skeleton out of fiberglass. Some companies make their hoods out of fiberglass, and paint it to look like carbon fiber, but call them carbon fiber hoods (but of course, they are just a carbon look, not actual carbon fiber). To know what "grade" a carbon hood is made of, look for details in the product description or manufacturer description.

How do you install a carbon fiber hood?
Carbon fiber hoods are usually OEM fit and finish which means un-bolting your factory hood and replacing it with the new lightweight carbon hood. Little to no modification is needed to get these to fit properly, and they often come with OEM metal latches for an easy installation. Nevertheless, hood pins are recommended for use with all carbon fiber hoods.

Do you have to buy hood pins if you buy a carbon fiber hood?
Hood pins are not necessary when buying a carbon fiber hood if it comes with an OEM metal latch, but we do recommend them as a safety precaution. They are sold separately on our website. If the carbon fiber hood does not come with a latch, hood pins are mandatory to be able to close your hood. We always suggest buying hood pins when purchasing any light-weight hood for peace of mind; you don't want any chance of your hood flying into your windshield while you're cruising along on the highway!

The hood I'm considering buying from Andy's is vented and has openings in it that appear to expose it to rain. Should I be concerned about that? Will it be harmful to my vehicle if rain goes through those vents into my engine bay? Is there a way to protect against that from happening?
Adding guards could potentially defeat the purpose of a vented hood, which is to help cool your engine bay. Some customers do get creative and add their own diverters under the hood for a custom solution to the perceived problem, but you would have to figure out how to attach them and whether there's room under the hood in the first place. That being said, we have never heard of any problems running a vented hood as-is, and we've done it ourselves for many years without any issues to speak of.

AussieIROC66

http://youtu.be/kbo8Yo267uE

Hope all that helps, it has got me excited!

AussieIROC66

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I found these on the site but no info on where to get them yet.

AussieIROC66

CF hood...........................(went into 'edit' to delete this as the pics did not work,... couldn't find how to delete!)

AussieIROC66

Lets see if the pics work this time?

AussieIROC66

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3 more

AussieIROC66

http://www.grace-co.co.jp/

Does the bonnets in above pic of the Blue car.

Goggle altvistatranslator to help with the Japanese.

http://au.babelfish.yahoo.com/ or try that.

This is the translation on the hoods-
For the lightening and handling improvement 3rd CAMARO, the normal hood is required inevitability of light weight conversion by any means.　With the after market there is also various commodities, but it was e.g., there are no any where agreement goes in regard to form and quality. This hood even precision functional surface form, developed and merchandised with prejudice and. Installing the small-sized outlet into the large-sized outlet and both sides in center. The exhaust heat effect from the duct is effective to [kamaro] of heat feeling. The leak in the roof from the duct, there is no worry in the engine compartment depending upon minute positioning. The weight which becomes matter of concern the normal hood became weight below 15kg and half vis-a-vis 32kg. Because the finish has become carbon area, paint it is not with it is OK. Because the hood is designed to be 2 piece structures, even strength there is no problem. There is no with either circuit travelling by this corporation demonstration car, either times when it pumps and in regard to efficiency it has become the commodity which is completed. You can install with volt/bolt on, but at that time you use original hood latch. The hood pin (difference to sell) please be sure to install for safety. Price including tax \ 147,000

That's about $1895.06USD
AND............$1899.81AUD

Plus shipping I spose....

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Mr. IROC-Z

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Carbon Hood:

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Love the OEM Carbon Fibre Hood MR.IROC-Z...

Where do you get them?

Andrew James

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I've yet to find a Carbon Fiber Firebird hood. Only fiberglass, don't wanna drop 600 dollars on a glass hood when I could have carbon fiber...

90-irocdx3

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There was a guy a couple of years ago, who used to make these hoods. they where like 800 plus shipping from canada. there is no one to date making carbon fiber oem hoods besides the company in japan which is like $3200 shipped to the door for the hood and vis. i just bought the vis hood waiting to show the pics off of the finish product when my car is out of the body shop. i have really looked into the whole carbon fiber hood thing, it is $5000 to make a mold and produce a oem carbon iroc hood.

AussieIROC66

We're chasing the Golden Egg then it would seem.

The Black OEM pics MR.IROC-Z posted looks the ducks nuts!!

Those prices sound like Dry Carbon which is the most expensive, strongest, lightest you can buy.

I'll keep looking around.

Here's a reply to an email I sent.............read from bottom to top, I have asked for an idea on pricing. Still waiting.

We will make anything. I just wanted to show you samples. We would have to make molds

Kenny Koldsbaek Carbonkenny


On Dec 17, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Jason Lambert <jasonlambert66@hotmail.com> wrote:


Hi Kenny,
Not what I'm after I'm afraid, not sure what I have asked for but here goes again.
I'm after CF parts for 82-89 F-body Camaros, eg, OEM style bonnet, side guards, hatch, wing, also small stuff like mirrors, air intakes, fluid bottles, inside roof liner, dash bits n pieces etc. I belong to some Camaro Forums & CF is widely talked about but supply is virtually non-existent.

Can you help?

Cheers, Jason.


> Subject: Carbon
> From: carbonkenny@windstream.net
> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 09:28:46 -0500
> To: jasonlambert66@hotmail.com
>
> Hey Jason,
>
> Google, RTR-C. We did that entire car. Also go to Kenny's components on Facebook to see more of our projects
>
> Thanks
>
> Kenny Koldsbaek
> Carbonkenny

AussieIROC66

http://translate.google.com.au/trans...26prmd%3Dimvns

AussieIROC66

Kenny said he'll CF anything .... he just needs the parts .... he wouldn't elaborate on prices.

No good me sending him stuff from Oz,.... so who's going to step up and get a quote?

AussieIROC66

This was interesting ....
http://youtu.be/qZrOxQ1V6bQ

Kandied91z

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Where is kenny out of I eventually had to have my hood built, the one from japan from grace. as importing was outrageous and dupication has been a nightmare to help get it to the masses.

AussieIROC66

Mate! I gave you a name,... just Google it.

BADNBLK

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So HAD a hood made? I know your all secretive with everything your doing, but throw us a bone man

AussieIROC66

As I said above, Carbon Kenny (Google him) said he will CF anything,... so send him your IROC hood and lets get this thing made. Maybe then we can start a thread for orders.

A hood the same as Mr. IROC-Z would be ideal. (as above pics)

A CF hood around $900-$1100 would also be ideal.

I did ask for a guesstimate and said there were quite a few forum members interested in the hood,.. but me being from Australia (I'm guessing) he did not reply with a price.

So someone from the States step up and take it further....

EDIT...
Kenny's Components - Mooresville. NC. 28117

blakecharles

seems high to me, but I still want one. Seems like one could just make a mold with foam then fiberglass over it. WHY ON EARTH DID THE GUY IN CANADA STOP MAKING THEM?! Dose he still have the mold?!

Why is it so hard to find aftermarket stuff for thirdgens?

AussieIROC66

I can only guess why someone would stop making them if they had the molds, - lack of interest - priced to high - he had other commitments - sold the mold, God knows really.

I did send out a few messages on here to track it down but with little result.

You may be right on the pricing thing, well! going to as high as $1100 at least because I see the new Maros CF hoods come in under $1000 but then again I can see more interest in CF for new Maros.

Here in Oz I bought a CF hood for my 350Z, it was $1050.

So blakecharles
How about you go without a hood for awhile so they can do a mold

KiLLJ0Y

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I would rather have that rear hi-rise spoiler from grace, that thing is awesome

Kandied91z

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because the cars weren't popular enough to warrant the demand making aftermarket parts limited and costly. you can build the same year fox body mustang for 1/2 of the price or less for obvious reasons.

1badbotie

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Hey guys unfortunately for you people that really are looking for a Carbon hood you have missed the boat. Back when I first got this project going there seemed to be many people interested which is why I went ahead with it. When I finally made the hoods available all of a sudden there was no interest or more like no one willing to spend the money. People seem to want things for next to free. There basically was no demand so I didn't have any more hoods produced. The guy I worked with to have these hoods made is no longer in the trade so even at this point if there was serious interest I couldn't do anything about it. I only have 2 Fiberglass hoods left which are for local pick up only if any Canadians are interested. At least the one Carbon Hood which ended up in the USA ended up in the wright hands "MR. IROCZ". There is a big following in his car which is good cause I get to see my hood again now and then.

Cheers from Canada.

AussieIROC66

Thanks for the info 1badbotie

So there was more than 1 OEM style CF IROC hood made but only the 1 stayed in the US, is that what your saying?

Where did the mold end up?

I see 'Grace' in Japan made the OEM style CF IROC hood too but for what ever reason they have discontinued it, it's still on there web page as discontinued. They do make others as you can see in above posts.

I was hoping another boat would come along hahaha.

'Carbon Kenny' said he'd do a hood but didn't give a quote when I mentioned I was from Oz, so someone from the US needs to front up with one for a mold to be taken.

No takers yet thou, looks like I'm doomed to miss out.

I may have to have one made locally.

blakecharles

Yea me too. I'm just going to make one. I understand about the demand, but I missed the ad (along with a few others). Sux this guy is out of biz.