Graboid

IROCFAST:

You are right, i don't give much compliments.It is in my nature to be honest and to say what i think. And there are simply very few cars on this board which look really good to me. Heck, sometimes i am in doubt if i even like my own car.
When people post pics of bone stock cars with peeling paint and ugly rims, there is at least one member who replies like: looks great, nice and so on. I prefer an honest "looks like crap".
And when it comes to the car on this thread i think:
- not low enough
- tires too wide for the rims
- softlip would be better (the classic hump rim is ok for tt2's)

Just my opinion, but the board is filled with opinions....

87tpi

iTrader: (5)

Did you have to do anything to the car to make the 18's fit?Thats pretty much what I want my car to look like,minus the wing.

nolanr0413

nope everything fits perfect , and as for getting a 40 series out back , i wanted to , but they are 26.9 or s0omething inches tall and i dont know if they would clear, i did want the 40 in the back but i didnt wanna get them and then have them rub. As for the fit everything fits perfectly . Gm shoulda put 275 on the back of a thirgen.

87tpi

iTrader: (5)

Yep,I think I'll put 18's on it.Only certain ones look good with 18's.I think cuz a lot of guys buy the big flashy chrome wheels.

camaro-mayhem

245's are too big for an 8 inch wheel graboid? or are you referring to the back only.

Graboid

yes, i think a 245 is too wide for the 8 inch wheel. I run a 225 on them in front and that is just right. If i had to buy new rims i would buy 9 inch wheels for the front wrapped in 235 or 245's.
I know 90% of the members will disagree.

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

yep...you still have much learning to do and it's a stepped lip not "hump" or whatever you've been calling them.

Graboid

i apologize for my incorrect english, which may stille be better than your german.

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

if your going to pretend to be an expert then at least know the correct terms.

nolanr0413

fight fight. Also how could a 245 on an 8 inch rim be too big, gm put a 245 on an 8 inch rim. they wouldnt put the wrong size tire on a rim .

Abubaca

iTrader: (3)

a 225 as Graboid suggested looks a bit different than a 245. It's just his opinion. I know exactly what he means, but I think that with a smaller rim (like 16's) that overlap from a 245 actually looks better. More "musclecar" ish if you ask me. On an 18, I don't like the tire to have any of that overlap look.

Like it or not, there's no actual "right" size. There is however "factory" size.

Graboid

Payback for my thread about some people who are posting a bit more pics than necessary? Eh, kandied.

Nolanr0413: All i can say is, that to me, a 245 tire looks wrong on the 8 inch rim. And looking at high performance cars tells me that it i may be on the right way

Graboid

Abubaca, i agree. On the 16 inch wheel it doesn't look as bad as on 18's. But i alway refer to 18's when i post my complaints about too wide tires. I also have the feeling that it actually IS better not only LOOKS better with the 225.
Example: PORSCHE 911 Turbo. More sportscar than anything GM has ever made. Wheel/tire combo 8 and 11x18 wrapped in 225/40 and 295/40. Lambo Gallardo 8.5 and 11x19 wrapped in 235/35 and 295/30. Enough said

nolanr0413

well its all taste, and i like mine crapoid .

Acceld Z

Those cars are both mid-engined and don't need a massive foot print up front. What do most high powered rwd cars use up front? That's right, a tire that's generally about 30mm skinnier than the rears.

Acceld Z

Dude, I don't think he's trying to insult you. He just has a complete and utter lack of tact

JeffW

well i might as well ad my 2 cents and tire experiance.

if it fits and does not over stretch the bead causing the outside edges to wear since the middle is pulled downwards, or is so far to wide that the center pumps out and wears the center of the tire to early then it works. it does also matter if the side wall does not rub anything. other than that there is no right or wrong size. i myself prefer a little side wall past the rims to help protect the rims. a tire hitting the curb is better than the rims hitting first. sidewalls are made to take a little of this abuse.

and as far as the factory choices.....who cares we have all changed the factory set up of our cars.

i like the looks of nolans set up

jeff

Graboid

I know i cant't compare a thirdgen to a Porsche or Lambo, because we all know that are different worlds. I had my eye on the PROPORTION (Is this the correct term, kandied?) between the width of the wheel and tire.

Crapoid? Nice try, but i am not discussing on that level with some teenager who can't handle a different opinion

nolanr0413

im not a teenager DUDE. Well this is getting out of hand and i think this is enough. Well you dont like it fine. I like it and thats all that really counts.

nick418

Graboid, why dont you just drop it man. He likes it and you dont. Everybody said there opinion (i like em ) So lets move on. Just some friendly advice

Abubaca

iTrader: (3)

I think a lot of it has to do with what kind of performance. A little overlap from a wider tire means the the actual sidewall is longer, it's just bowed out a bit more. Logic would suggest that the more sidewall you have, the better the ride, BUT you wouldn't have as much control "perfomance" wise when handling a curve, due to more deflection. (Is that the right term? I honeslty am not sure.)

....at the same time, that extra sidewall movement helps with straight line traction. That's why drag cars don't run low profile tires, AND why we drop our tire pressure when dragging, or heck, even in the snow! More mush, less spinning.

...I'm pretty sure GM did it for ride quality though.

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

no graboid my comments had nothing to do with what you had said to me....your preference is just that and we could get into an entirely different ball game just talking back and fourth on what we don't like about each others cars leave it be as there is no reason to act like an ***.

in this instance tire make also has a huge influence as well...you could have a 225 with tire guard and a brand say bfg that will have a much different look then the identical size in a kuhmo with no tire guard. same for michelin, toyo and the rest. one could go round and round trying different makes but it would be silly.

in graboid's particular instance it's a prefered look to stretch the tire...well it isn't the case here, who is to say what's right or wrong? do what you want to your own damn car and if you don't have something nice to say at least go about it in a way that's more educational rather then pointing fingers. i know personally i wouldn't stretch a tire like that because of my roads here in michigan would easily bend a rim. the only way to counteract such a situation would be to enlarge the profile and then your changing the look again as well as putting improper stress on areas that aren't needed.

best way is to talk to the company of your choice. for me toyo recommended a 245/40/18 for an 18x8 wheel. it works perfect and gives the look i want so i leave it at that....

ME Leigh

I agree stretching a tire is just wrong, i much better have a tire to small width of a rim then too wide.

CrazyHawaiian

Lookn good! Glad you like the fit. Really sets your car off man, good job!! As for the whole tire size thing, there really is no wrong answer. Tires have a range of widths that they will fit on, if you check out the tire spec PDF sheets you'll see that most widths of tires have a range of wheel widths that are acceptable. In this case the method we are using to determine the tire size is based off the OEM tire sizes. This was the best way to determine what tires would fit with no rubbing or fitment issues (since not a lot of people are running 18's on these cars). Everything beyond that (sized for different reasons) is personal preferance... Off topic but I actually like the look of stretched tires (and I do run them on my drift car). Not good for daily driving, but I definately think its cool hehehe.

I think your car looks great Nolan! :hail:

ME Leigh

245 fit on 8-9.5" rims

275 fit on 9-11" rims

You decide :lala:

Tony89GTA

iTrader: (7)

Does your car still have the stock springs?

Also we need at least one close up pic of the rims!

IROCFAST

iTrader: (3)

I am the fire starter, twisted firestarter....hey, they were German, great band.

nolanr0413

no tony i have eibach sportlines on the car . and heres a close up just for you .

War_Eagle

That definatly took your car to another level!

PHAT89TA

those rims really sets the car off. good job :hail:

TA

iTrader: (1)

The car looks really awesome with those wheels. Nice job. It's a real head turner now!

Some of you guys do need to chill, though. I don't think someone stating his opinion is slamming you personally, especially when it comes to aesthetic taste. I have never met someone who knew that they had bad taste or no sense of humor!!

GarageToys

iTrader: (6)

The car looks great. That close-up shot shows how the wheels make the brakes look really small now. Time for 13" brakes.

SweetRide45

iTrader: (2)

Like this?

Graboid

I may be persistent on my rim/tire point of view, but thats no reason to call me a dude, crapoid, *** or whatever.

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

lol....




what are you guys using on your wheels? they look to have a little haze on them.

nolanr0413

mine are bare. I got the mothers billet polish and it didnt seem to polish them up any , and i also got 100% carnuba and it made it look hazy with it on . How do you get yours so shiney , do u use power tools to help out or just elbow grease. sweetride45 those are the 13 inch baers . I think i need 14inch brakes if they are 13's. they look too small.

Tobias05

the rims and the tires look really sweet!

I like the red and grey two-tone also!

:hail:

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

there are different types of polish finishes you can order as well. an example on my wheels i ordered the show finish which is as close to chrome as metal can get. they can get hazy like above though if i let them go for a short while...other then that they look like a mirror.

if they were hazy when you bought them they aren't going to get much better, did you have a clear put on them possibly?

i know boyd and their polish isn't as mirror as some can get but when you order the polished finish they shouldn't look hazy..

nolanr0413

i didnt have a choice as to which finish i got , they only have polished. Maybe its the pic that makes them look hazy. They have no finish on them . Just bare aluminum . They look good. They may not be as shiney as your but they look good.

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

they do have options on the polish, you have to ask though. no need to compare them to mine, i wasn't....just wanted to make sure you knew what you had gotten.

SweetRide45

iTrader: (2)

I already buffed mine out w/ compound and pads...can't get anymore "mirror like"...that was a pic of when I first got them...

nolanr0413

so what do you guys use to buff out the rims. And do you have a pic of them all buffed out.

Graboid

Damn, that black car sits high, definately needs a serious drop. 18's without lowering looks wrong

nick418

Actually i like SweetRides car. You should see some pics that posted on this Board, Very clean sharp ride.

omcrider

Sweet very nice, wicked looking rims. Your car is definatly unique looking with the Mecham wing,RAII and Boyds.

SweetRide45

iTrader: (2)

Graboid, what kind of car do YOU have? Seems all you do is hate! It's ok if you have a Honda, we all go through tough times

Keep your opinion, but don't tell others they have a $hitty ride or anything, have some respect.

If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all. Give someone some credit, rather than always pointing out negativity.

Abubaca

iTrader: (3)

I always get a kick watching the tides of popular opinion sway from member to member.

How many THOUSANDS of times have people said that cars with 17's and larger need to be lowered. It almost goes beyond opinion, and becomes a fact.

Unless you're Graboid, and have stumbled into being unfavorable with the locals. I can see it now, 20's on cars with factory ride height all because everyone wanted to **** Graboid off. Hey man, you may have started a trend!


....it's all good, last week I said I didn't like big wheels and got called a backwoods uneducated ******* stock ****. But since everyone seems to hatin' on Graboid this week, lemme see if I can't jump on the wagon...here goes:

Crapoid, dood, it's his car man, he can do whatever he wants, because he owns it. Don't get mad just because your car isn't cool.


.....I LOVE the A&D board.

FyreLance

Are you being serious?

SweetRide45

iTrader: (2)

FyreLance: Yes, b/c I never heard of the guy

FyreLance

Oh. I only ask because, judging by the comments I've seen over the past several months, he probably has one of the top 10 most desirable thirdgens on the board.

Not bashing you or anything, was just wondering if you were being serious or messing with him.