InfernalVortex

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Sometimes, less is more.

Rockyd

still holding up pretty good i wash it regular as well too

robertfrank

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Dude that looks SICK!! I can't wait unit I do my 91 black with the glossifier

N_da_Mood

Wow looks great, Did you take it off the wheels in that last picture??

Rockyd

im going to redo the wheels a little better when i cut the other parts out they were not as straight as i wanted them so ill take my time this go around thanks

haps

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Pick away...I don't mind spirited conversation.

It's unfortunate you don't understand what you've done is just another tick in the box next to the reason why the third gen stigma remains. Cut corners till the lowest cost option is available. Then everyone that does says the same thing, "it's just temporary till I get a real paint job." The cost to remove that from **** by somebody qualified will be ridiculous and cost prohibitive, so you'll do it yourself, and won't get it all off, and the cycle continues. The pics don't look bad, they really don't, but pics don't show everything. Spend the cash once and do it correctly.

1ACindy

i love the look...very clean! with the wheels your putting on very sharp! head turner

robertfrank

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Actually removing plastidip s EXTREMELY easy as long as it's sprayed thick enough. The only time it becomes a problem is when it's srayed too thin but even then it's still fairly easy to remove. As far as the stigma with thirdgen's go with using this produt there shouldn't be. There are guys high end cars doing this exact same thing as an alternative to the pain in the *** wrap jobs out there. I do agree that for the cost of doing a dip job you could easily just paint the car yourself but who gives a ****? It's his car so let him do what he wants.

N_da_Mood

This actually made me think about the car I am building, everytime I finish a panel and prime it I can just coat it in plastidip, until the car is finished then I will paint it. This Is definitely better looking than primer, by far.

Rockyd

Haps to be honest I'm glad you responded. Like said above this stiff does come off easy. Also my silver is still under the dip. Once I peel it this car goes back the way it was. I can see what you saying about a cheap way out is it yes but it's not cheap looking in person either I really don't mind your opinion at all. I won't get butt hurt like some on here too thanks again guys also for the compliments!!!

InfernalVortex

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This is a WAY more responsible, practical, and aesthetically pleasing variation on spray bombing. The stuff is, by nature, easy to remove.

Richboll

I've got mixed feelings about this. I've always known how I want my ride to look and and I prefer the permanence of paint. That said some of these dips look pretty good. I'm just afraid that most of the "dipjobs" will go beyond their life expectancy and just end up looking bad. But then again, Its your ride. Do what you want with it.

LSJuan0068

Someone do white...

Rockyd

It has been do and looks great. I think he's on the boArds if not ill post A pic. As for it looking bad by someone letting it go. Jus a few more sprays And it looks fresh again and thAt not hard to do at all or expensive. Oh and I DID NOT SPRAY BOMB my car. I used the procar kit from dipyourcar.com.

LSJuan0068

Post up the pictures of it, might do white myself

90camaro355rs

Dude, I think it looks great!

Coolwheels84

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i think it looks awesome. Its a cheap and easy way to change the look of your car. As long as the body is in nice shape, why not? You could have a different color camaro every year.

jas2730

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I would like to see what effect the glossifier has on a completely dipped car.

Coolwheels84

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There are plenty of videos on youtube

InfernalVortex

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Yeah look at youtube. It makes it semi-gloss.

jas2730

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I checked it out. I thought it might help red to not look faded or pink but it doesn't.

InfernalVortex

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Yeah thats pretty much the same problem I had with it. Most colors look great, but the red just ends up looking like faded pink...

haps

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Other than your opinion, do you have a way to justify your statement? It might be easier to remove, but that's about it.

Using SEM Hot Rod Black, a quality product, he could've matte blacked the car for $260 in materials($70 per quartX3+$50sandpaper etc). It would've held up better, probably looked better and he wouldn't need to remove it to spray over it. Explain to me the advantage of dipping your car again?

jas2730

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Not a fan of dipping but your way off base. You spend $260 on a paint job and I guarantee you it will look like crap. Not to mention, your $260 estimate for paint and materials is to say the least, comical.

2007xl50

I love the dipped car, but in some ways he has a point. My buddy did his 95 M3 clone in the Summit Racing Hot Rod black, the car was in primer when he got it but needed some body work. Our buddy that builds hot rods did some body work and spayed the car. My buddy that owns the car has maybe $200.00 in the whole job and it looks killer. I'm using the same paint on my RS when the body work is done. Also it will make a good base if I ever want to paint the car back to gloss black.

I understand why the OP did it this way and he could do it at home very easy and go back to his old paint when he wants to, can't do that with real paint.

68Strat

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These posts are hilarious... Dipping is no different than putting some easily removable stickers on something.

I see posts "Why didn't you just do it right?" valid question, but his answer is valid also...
"Why didn't you buy some cheap paint that would look better" PERMANENT IS PERMANENT. Dipping is not... Therefore it isn't a valid question.

InfernalVortex

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What about primer? sealer? body filler? weather seals? scuff pads?

Plus as much as I like flat black, I have no desire to make my car permanently flat black. As cool as it looks, it still tends to look like someone just primer bombed the car. Some cars can pull it off, some can't. I'm not about to make that gamble with my car, and getting flat black paint off later is going to be a chore because at some point you will want to paint it a proper gloss color. And if you still like the flat black look later, it's still cheap to just respray a new coat of plastidip on it and call it a day. I dont like the idea of flat black paint. Too permanent and too difficult to remove.

If Im going through the trouble to properly paint something, that means body work. Removing door dings, replacing weather seals that probably came apart as you were trying to get to other things. You dont paint over door dings because if you want to get rid of them later, you have to strip all the paint off and do it over again, even if only for that one spot. But iwth plastidip, you can just peel it off and do it again if you want to repair door dings. You're not making cosmetic flaws permanent by putting paint over it. It's a completely different paradigm and the old concerns about "doing it properly" don't apply, because it is, by its very nature, temporary. You dont have to worry about whether you'll like it in another 5 years, or another 5 months.

Plus, since it's basically a rubber coating, it will theoretically protect your underlying paint in the meantime. Or even protect underlying exposed bare metal or fiberglass that may have been otherwise exposed to the elements.

58mark

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I've seen rocky's car in person. It looks better than every matte job I've seen.

Coolwheels84

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Not to mention a compressor and sprayer. That guy's assuming a lot. For $400, the plasti dip kit comes with EVERYTHING needed to change the look of the car. Maybe next year he wants a different color, buy 4 gallons of plasti dip for $200 and you have a brand new to you looking car. Can't beat that.

Rockyd

Haps!!!! Made a good convo on this thread and I don't dislike it at all. I understand people will dislike what I did or love what I did. Nothing wrong with that. But remember I did not want this permanent in fact I was more curious about. If you YouTube dipyourcar you will see lots of high end cars being done. I have dipped a few audis and a CTS v this Saturday. My car is also a daily driver and does not look faded torn or anything else. In fact it looks like It did when I did this 4 months ago. Held against string winds sand storms and a couple two hour drives!!! And as said before if it does rip or fad I just put one coat on it and its good to go. And really guys thanks for acting like grown ups towards each other Haps has just stated his opinion as well as all of you and hate to see this get lock for being immature

haps

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Perhaps I should've said "all things being the same" and the car was ready to be sprayed...as it probably was when he dipped it. I also assumed he has a compressor/gun so he's familiar with the process, that is, unless he rolled it on.

Exactly. Why bother to spend the time to do it right, to straighten the body and replace the seals, when a nice, cheap, rubberized coating will cover it up. "I'll do all that right before I get a real paint job." Exhausting.

Thanks for illustrating my point rather perfectly.

Rockyd

Ok Haps I did not sand nor did I have to do anybody work that was to crazy or anything. I did not have to ruin my paint at all in fact I do have a compressor but a small one that would not be enough to paint a car. And no I did not roll it on either. And in about 15 minister I can peel the black off and it is silver again!!! In fact I didn't even have to tape off my lights or anything. I washed the car made sure it was dry sprayed it on with something like a Wagner sprayer and in four hours I was driving around and have been for the past months like this. I'd I want my car red I spray it with the same stuff for 160 bucks and don't even have to peel the black off.

InfernalVortex

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There's a difference between spraying over giant dents and spraying over small door dings and small hail damage or tiny rock chips, etc. Little dings are important to take care of for paint because paint is permanent. Plastidip is temporary, so it doesn't matter. In fact I'd argue that putting bodyfiller, primer and sealer on a factory paint job to plastidip it is a travesty because then you truly are committing to plastidip as the primary finish of your car. you cant peel off plastidip and have the factory look underneat it if it's covered in bondo. This stuff isnt a paint substitute. Depending on the context, it's a substitute for a vinyl wrap or spray bombing primer. It's far superior to both for many of the reasons we've already established.

DethVenture

Some of us would rather not spend thousands on a new paint job, and we want (or have to) do it the budget route. Maaco is worse than Plastidip, because they have a bad reputation for doing awful work. Plastidip is affordable, and the best part is, it's removable.

In Rocky's situation, he wanted to experiment without messing with his paint or going through all the hassle of paint.

I personally don't understand your elitism. If this is such a terrible way of going about improving the looks of your car or experimenting, why are you here? It's his car.

CruzinQueen

You know what, I like it. I wouldn't do it to a car with a pristine paint job, but if you are trying to hide an old, ratted out paint job then I say have fun with it! After all, it CAN be peeled off if you hate it. This actually made me think about doing something similar to the wheels on my Lacrosse. Below I photoshopped the center of the spokes black (ex rear wheel) and I think the Plastidip would work great. Plus, if I hate it its reversible and I can remove it when my lease is up.

58mark

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Congratulations to Rocky and his car for being voted one of the "TOP FIVE" participants in last Saturday's ThirdGen roundup. As I said before, this car looks amazing up close, you have to see it to appreciate it. 10X better than any matte job I've ever seen, and with the extra details his car has like the hood treatments and the wheels, it was one of the stars of the show

Not just my opinion by the way, the top five is voted on by all registered owners of third gens in the roundup. This is a peer given award, which I think makes it even more special

robertfrank

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CONGRATS!!!! Rocky good job!!

DethVenture

Well deserved, Rocky!

On a side note, how did you do the hockey stripe? Do you have a stencil? Is is done in gloss PlastiDip?

Lmancha96

Show them haters!

IROCgiraffe

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I love that hood. And I like the decal on the side of the scoop...

Rockyd

Thanks guys!! The stripes are vinyls that I put on my own. It was a fun round up this year with lots a beautiful cars out there. I was very appreciative that I was chose as one of the top five

tyler86z28

Have u tried to peel any of it off the body yet? I done the top half of my IROC looking for a new look. But I didn't like it. It was absolute horror trying to remove! Not at all like on the Youtube videos. Could only peel off about 2" peices before it would tear. Took a full day to get it off my top half....But other than that, paint was fine underneath.

DethVenture

How many coats did you spray? If it's too thin it is a PITA to peel off. PlastiDip recommends around 5-6 coats for proper removal IIRC.

Rockyd

Yup what was said above!!! My friend did his top to thin and looked horrible as well. We peeled and it took forever in fact I told him to stop and sprayed a free more layers one!!!! The. We peeled.

How did you spray your rope? With cans?!?! Cans are for small parts I know I've seen people do it with cans and well only one out of lots comes out decent. Cans are used for rims mirrors small trim or emblems a big are is way better with the sprayer.

InfernalVortex

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Yeah this is the main problem. It may sound counterintuitive, but as mentioned, apply more coats and let it cure.

Dabesiv

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I know the thread is a bit dead, but Rocky, nice job!!! I was contemplating dipping my car as the paint looks terrible right now, not bad for all original, but not that amazing either. After reading through this whole thread I am really thinking about taking the plunge until I can get a custom paint job done professionally. Thanks for the great post!!

Rockyd

so did you try it out? hope you post some pics

Dabesiv

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Haven't had the time to take it on as a project, there has been a few too many other projects at the moment, but I think within the next month I should get it done. I will post pics of before and after.

VonKaiser

Rockyd's car is amazing indeed. I just revisited the whole plastidip scene again and was delighted to see new colors.

Something else no ones mentioned that I saw was this is GREAT stuff for people like me--BROKEASS people. This saves me a couple grand or more $$ from a respray. I may be able to afford a full paint job later but for now I need my car one damn color and this is the answer.

This is what I mean:
http://www.jce3000gt.com/auto/My%20RS/DSCF1973.jpg
http://www.jce3000gt.com/auto/My%20RS/DSCF1975.jpg
http://www.jce3000gt.com/auto/My%20RS/DSCF1980.jpg

Dabesiv

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I say dip that man, even a semi decent dip that's a solid color looks better than a rainbow Third gen with some leopard spots and you really cant beat the price, you could re dip every 5 years and still end up cheaper than a professional paint job.