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Old 09-09-2004, 02:00 PM   #151
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Re: Needle visibility....

Actually, I just noticed that I took that pic right before I turned my car off, after I had turned the parking light dimmer switch all the way down. I'll have to take another pic tonight after I get home from school WITH the needles lit. It's gonna be a sweet pic, so get ready to drool!
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Old 08-05-2006, 11:41 AM   #152
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hey for anyone doing leds u might want to try "flux" aka wide angles for the regular dash.
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they are 10k mcd and very wide angle if u can get them to fit
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Old 08-06-2006, 08:43 AM   #153
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here is a pic of my guages i dropped in from ebay for $1.99 oh yeah
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Old 08-06-2006, 10:45 AM   #154
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those are hot pimpin u used led 194 bulbs?
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Old 08-06-2006, 01:44 PM   #155
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Has anyone changed out the lights in the Shift console?
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Old 08-07-2006, 06:07 AM   #156
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mine are actual slip in gauges i got them for $1.99 on ebay some sale i guess ive seen them on there for about 30 bucks now and the are ver nice i luv them easy hook up and ive had them a little over a yr now i need to pul them off again and paint the needles red and you do not have to pull the needls off to put the gauges on. like i said there on ebay and easy to put in


ps i have changed my light in my center console not much of a difference there so
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Old 08-13-2006, 04:07 AM   #157
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yeah i got the same gauge faces, awesome, but i messed up when installing them, the needle on my speedometer only moves up to 62 mph now
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Old 08-13-2006, 03:20 PM   #158
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Could someone tell me what size I would need for my 89 RS? I want the violet ones. The dash lights are already purple (as well as the inside turn signal), but I want the dash lights to be brighter, and these look awesome!
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Old 08-13-2006, 10:49 PM   #159
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Old 09-24-2006, 10:32 PM   #160
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So, I was looking at these, they have a very high MCD (60,000), but I don't know if they'll work in my car. I have an '88 firebird...Does the fact that they're 10mm mean anything to me? Do I need smaller? Bigger? Something entirely different..?

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Old 09-24-2006, 10:37 PM   #161
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10mm is about right(around 1/4 dia.).Thats what im using on my car.Although mine are the inverted lense type.
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So, I was looking at these, they have a very high MCD (60,000), but I don't know if they'll work in my car. I have an '88 firebird...Does the fact that they're 10mm mean anything to me? Do I need smaller? Bigger? Something entirely different..?

eBay: 50 X 10mm SUPER BRIGHT BLUE LED 60,000mcd FREE RESISTOR (item 120028065197 end time Oct-04-06 20:35:54 PDT)

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One thing you have to watch out for with LEDs and brightness is the viewing angle. A lot of times, sellers of LEDs will say that it has this really high MCD, but the LEDS also have a very narrow viewing angle. The ones you linked to have a 12 degree viewing angle. So using something like that in a instrument cluster gets tricky and might cause a lot of hot spots. Best best for the most even light is to find wider viewing angle LEDs.

I also noticed that the LEDs you link to only have a 20ma max current draw. Another give away that they are narrowing the viewing angle to get the brightness.
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Old 10-25-2006, 04:56 AM   #163
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I installed red 9-led 194 bulbs in my instrument panel, floor, reading light, and tag light. And, 44mm festoon in my dome from superbrightleds.com, in my '85 Firebird. It was super easy and looks GREAT!!!

It was all direct plug, no mod. whatsoever. All I did was take off the face of the intrument panel and pull the gauges out individually (non-cluster in 85), except for the speedo (I just loosened the face and had to play "Operation w/ a pair of needle nose).

It looks so fresh. And all I spent was about $34 shipped for the bulbs and an hour of my time. This has to be the best/cheapest/easiest customization that you can do to your bird/maro. If I can do it, anyone can.

The lights look kinda orange in the pictures, but believe me they are very red.

The next thing I'm gonna do is put two 9-led festoons in my plexi-glass faced speaker box. Even more red!!!!!! Gotta find the sockets and a switch (probably Auto Zone), and just run the power off my amp. (any experienced suggestions?)

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Old 10-28-2006, 02:33 AM   #164
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hey man that is awsome ..... ive been wanten to do that but i never new you could..... new to the whole customization thing..... and the plexi glass.... im about to build a sub box... how are you going to put the leds in there.... are u going to drill holes on the top of the plexi glass....????

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This looks sweet...I want to try the blacklight ones..Any feedback...
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Old 11-11-2006, 08:25 PM   #166
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the uv ones will look very cool most of the colored numbers on are guages are uv reactive
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Sounds like a plan....lol...Thanks for the fast response
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Old 11-16-2006, 12:19 AM   #168
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84 1LE, how did you get the shift console looking that way ? White plastic rather than the yellow one I take it ? Blue tinted plexi glass piece .. and a bright LED ??

Any more details ?
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The shift window is from a berlinetta.There was a clear plastic lense that went behind the shift indicator window(which is really a thin plastic film).This plastic lense is pretty thick(too thick for non-berli shift plate).So i just made my own lense of the same dimensions, but a little thinner(same thickness as my 84 Zs stock lense/shift window deal.I only used the shift ind from the berli.Eveything else is stock for an 84 camaro(non-berli).As for the lighting its just a super white LED(10mm).Same as the ones in the rest of the interior.The xtra bluish-ness is due to the berlinettas shift indicator(black background & white letters with blue dye behind letters(stock).So it already had a blue look to it.The LED(which gives off a slight blue illumination just enhances the look.I really like it though.It goes with the pioneer deck units OEL display & on my sportster Replay unit.

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so lost...

alright... i have a 1991 camaro RS...

the little light in my guages went out... so now i have nothing...


i was wanting to replace it with the LED lights you guys were talking about but i have no idea what size or where to get them...

if someone could please help me out, that would be amazing.

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hey... so, i was looking at your http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2151423/1 page and i knoticed that we have the exact same car...

i have a quick question for you. how did you get the guages like that? where did you buy them, what size LED's ect. ect.

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Old 02-07-2007, 09:20 PM   #172
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I want to do the LEDs in my dash. I see they now offer a 9 LED bulb here
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...gi?product=CAR
Will that fit? I see the 6 fits but I was just wondering about the 9. Plus the 9 has to be alot brighter. I aslo want to get these white faced gauges.
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black car? go red looks cool look up www.besthongkong.com i bought 20 blue led bulet tip 194 buls for 17 some odd dollars total if i can ever get my dash to work then i can put them in but they are ten times brighter.
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the turn signal bulbs are hard but the others are all 194 www.besthongkong.com

look for the bullet tip led bulb they are cheap and realy bright.

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EWWEWWWNOTME bad idea on the white face gauges they look bad and don't always fit exactly. plus they have a wierd tint in the numbers that block out the led light look. ill never buy another one they ruined my dash and now i can't fix it.
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Does anyone have photos of RED led illumination in a 91-92 Camaro dash cluster? I would like to try this, but would like to see what yall have used and of course photos of it. There are 4 bulbs that need changed i know, but what ones would be bright enough, and what not. Thanks in advance.
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Hey purple 92 ss got your message,
try that site that i quoted and look for any thing with wide bulb (or what the guys at besthonkkong told me) was to try they're new 5 chip 194 bulb (these are the size bulb that camaro uses alot)
my only complain about the bullet tip is that at night they don't show up until pitch black. other than that everything has a blue halo. the problem is that my bulbs are not wide angle so the light didn't disperse through the plexi glass light up part. but it dose look cool. all of the lights are blue in my car except the little yellow led above the ac controls. i cant figure out how to get to it with out breaking something.
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hey... so, i was looking at your http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2151423/1 page and i knoticed that we have the exact same car...

i have a quick question for you. how did you get the guages like that? where did you buy them, what size LED's ect. ect.

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did you ever find out what led 's they used or was it just the glow gauge kit?
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I just lit mine up red about 2 weeks ago, I did it for around $20 and its twice as bright as the stock lights, However I used 2000mcd leds and I had to use 2 wired in parallel, a slight pain so you may want to get a higher mcd than that, but all is explained in the tech article. But any idiot with a soldering iron can do it, it took me about 3 hours start to finish. But speaking of soldering irons don't use a gun, I bought one for this project because I thought it'd make it easier than my trusty iron, but couldn't get the darn thing in there. Just my advice from my experience. I plan on putting some more red leds elsewhere inside my car in the near future, I am thinking elsewhere in the dash, in the speakers (non stock speaker covers), door panels, under the dash, light up the back seats a little, I also have a nifty idea with a three way switch to make the dome light switch between red and white light.
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want to see some cool lights?
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want to see some cool lights?
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under search put in camaro91boy and click on the camaro.
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Where did you get your white lettered gauges?
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what white lettered gauges? let me look ill get back with you in a sec.
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what white lettered gauges? let me look ill get back with you in a sec.
Your gauges don't have the yellow writing, instead they are white.

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if you are refering to the pic with the painted bezel. that is stock in a v-6 dash after i fried the 0-145 this is all i could find cheap and close by i painted my other needals white instead of orange but i haven't decided if i want to take apart the dash yet to put them in. whats your oppinion?
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I don't think I've ever seen a 91/92 style dash with white numbers before.
The yellow numbers make it impossible to change the back lighting color.

I might have to be on the lookout for these, is there a way to get the V6 tach to work right with a V8?

I kinda like how you have it now, with the yellow needles.
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i'm not to sure about the dash out of the three i have only the one is white the others are as you say yellowish but even with those the dash lights up fine the pic with the gauges at the bottom is one of the yellowish dashes and as for the v-6 working with the v-8 they don't the dash picks up the extra two pistons and reads your idle state at 4000 rpms when you hit the throttle the gauge pegs i think if you take a v-8 chip out and swap it with the v-6 dash it might read correctly i haven't tried it because i fried the only v-8 dash.
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oh and i did give you a 5 star rating.spread the word about my car and dads velle. i want them to be rated real good.
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well i got my red led's in from superbrightleds.com. I ordered the ones that are 5 led's wide view in RED. I will try to get photos of it soon. I also used these led's for the Shift indication lamp and the AC control lamp. I am VERY pleased at how the brighness came out. It is 1000 times better than the regular led's that i had tried before.
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well i got my red led's in from superbrightleds.com. I ordered the ones that are 5 led's wide view in RED. I will try to get photos of it soon. I also used these led's for the Shift indication lamp and the AC control lamp. I am VERY pleased at how the brighness came out. It is 1000 times better than the regular led's that i had tried before.

I see a few differnt ones on that site. can you link to the ones you used?
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I can do better than that. Here's a screeen cap of the exact ones i used.




and now folks, sorry for the long delay, but here they are at night, lit up.. hope the photos are good enough for you.







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Here is some awesome light, blows superbrights away
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Yes here you go, lights from http://frickinbrite.com/catalog/index.php
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Great pictures!! So It would only take a couple hours and about $20?
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Well, now that this thread is back from the dead, I got a question . The tech article posted in the earlier pages said that the LEDs can not be dimmed with the stock dimmer switch or they will turn off. Is this true for the direct replacement bulbs?
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it is true.

however red is so unobtrusive its not needed to be dimmed.. really its not super bright compared to what you think it is in the photos. it looks great, dont get me wrong, but its not like it is hurt your eyes birght.
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Select LED Color Red Amber White (+ $2.00) Blue (+ $1.00) Green (+ $2.00) UV (+ $1.00)



921-x12 Wedge Base LED bulb
921 Type with 12 LEDs, replaces 194/168/912 wedge base car bulbs
Wide 75 degree beam pattern, non-polarized
measures 1.20 inch long by 0.60 inch diameter
$ 3.95


Would these work? I have a 1991 Camaro RS, teal, and my dome lights are in my mirror, can I change these to LED as well? Just give the entire car a nice green glow....
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they may, but the reason i went with wide angle was for the guages, the area inside the cluster needs to be wide anle bulbs, because if not it wont reflect bright enough, or so is my experience. those green may work for stuff outside the cluser.. its up to you to try it.
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Its really easy to follow the instructions in the tech articles
I did mine red, one of the first things I did to my car, they are brighter than stock even being red. I got my led's off ebay for really cheap. I did two led's per socket. I also used the metallic chrome spray paint on the back of the plate, I originally just left it blue, wasn't bright enough though, the difference was night and day. I will try to post some pics of mine
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so wait, how do you install the ones off os superbrightleds.com? same as in the tech article? Can i get some info on this? I'm changing my instrument panel with a 145 soon and i may as well kill 2 things at once
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so wait, how do you install the ones off os superbrightleds.com? same as in the tech article? Can i get some info on this? I'm changing my instrument panel with a 145 soon and i may as well kill 2 things at once
Heres a quick guide to the install with the 5 LED conversion from www.superbrightleds.com:

Packaged LEDs - 11 Red and 2 Amber for Side Markers:


Take off all nessecary panels:


Take off shifter knob and center trim, replace bulbs in shifter plate and heater controls with LEDs:


Do same with all bulbs in instrument cluster and put everything back together.

End result (doesn't do the mod justice, looks 10xs better in real life):



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