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Old 06-30-2004, 05:32 PM
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650DP vs 750VS

I`m running a fairly healthy 350(see sig) in my car and was wondering if a 650dp was big enough for it. I talked to a reputable engine builder who dynos his engines and he said
a 375hp 350 really needs a 750.I do have a 750vs carb that I
had rebuilt but the throttle response just isn`t there and it has
a slight hesitation at low speed acceleration.I have already bought larger pump shooters and I`ll probably need to buy a
pump cam kit to get this thing to work.I took off the 750 to
do these changes and I put a 650dp that my brother-in-law
had kicking around.Well the car seems to love it,throttle response is excellent it pulls really hard to 6000rpm in 1st and 2nd I never
took it that high in 3rd.My question is am I getting all the power
I can with this 650 or should I take my time and try to sort out the 750?
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: LS1/LQ4
Transmission: 4L60E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
My experience going from a 750 VS to 650 DP on the 396 was no decrease in MPH (indication of HP), and an ET reduction of .2 sec. When I converted the 650 to 750 via the Proform main body, no noticable difference.

People tend to overcarburate. The good news is it usually doesn't hurt them.
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Originally posted by five7kid
The good news is it usually doesn't hurt them.
Except perhaps in mileage in a double pumper.
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Car: '82 Z28
Engine: 350HO
Transmission: M4
if you already have a 650dp, your fine. And as five7 alluded to, if you want, you can buy the proform mainbody(costs $100 IIRC) and is rated at 750 cfm.

but i would stick with what you have.
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: LS1/LQ4
Transmission: 4L60E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
If this is regularly street driven, you probably don't want the Proform because it eliminates the choke. The guy I got the 650 from had already done that to it, so I didn't lose anything there (the 750 VS still had the choke, though). A choke is kind of nice when you are starting the car cold and have to be somewhere.

When I said over carbing doesn't typically hurt, I was thinking primarily in terms of WOT powerband. As Apeiron said, economy can be affected, and the throttle response you noted will also be "mushed up" a little with a larger than necessary carb.
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A little bit ago Chevy High Performance did a little test between the different carb sizes, working against that "bigger is better" thing. The engine was constant and they list the parts used to build it [the engine].

<A HREF="http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/techarticles/148_0403_choose/index.html">Here's the article</A>. Any changes that they made to the engine/carb they noted. They also list the jet sizes they use and what not.

Kept me busy for a few hours.
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