cocacolakidd

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Hello,

The revision is to be to a new brake caliper mount bracket that makes it easier to mount the various sizes of our brake setups.

In my opinion (non professional - as I'm not a mechanic or auto engineer - just many years of twistin wrenches) the dropped spindles are the only way to go. One can lower their car and retain the original steering geometry. Where as with dropped springs they throw off the steering geometry more and more the lower you go. Also, all of the above goes with the struts. With the springs they do not allow the original strut travel (Compression, and rebound).

My two cents Ed.

TraviZ

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If I did go with both the spindles and springs, would that pose a problem for wheel clearance?

cocacolakidd

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Hello,

I'm 2" down now (with springs - waiting for the new brackets for my dropped spindles.) and am running 245/45-17's front, and 285/40-17's rear. At 2" down there is a little rub on the front with lock to lock steering - so I just do not turn it that far. In the rear the 285's are a little wide and have a little rub on the very outside of the corner wall. I considered rolling the finder openings to eleaveate this. Also I'm running Z06 Corvett rims with 2" spacers - so I have ordered a pair of 1 1/2" spacers to hopefully remidy the problem (the inner fender opening cuts/groves the corner of the 285's on extreem bumps). So if the spacers do not do the trick, or if they move the tire/rim in to far, I will have to roll the inner fender openings flat. I love the extra width of the 285's so I'm willing to deal with it.


A friend several years back installed Lowering springs, and then torched a couple of coils on top of that, and got his Z28 down 3 1/4". It's hard to remember the exact size of his front tire width (Knowing him and guessing they were probably 225's??). He never complained about any problems like that, just how easy it was to bottom out on extreem speed bumps he said. Oh and he could not fit at the car wash, or on local auto shop lifts any more - strictly floor jacks from then on. He loved the height and was dealing with the extra problems that came with being that low.

So I guess if you have springs that only take it down like 1.5" drop, add the 1.8" of Spindle drop, and that's pretty much in the same area of 3 1/4" down.

~Ed~

cocacolakidd

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Hello,

I'm 2" down now (with springs - waiting for the new brackets for my dropped spindles.) and am running 245/45-17's front, and 285/40-17's rear. At 2" down there is a little rub on the front with lock to lock steering - so I just do not turn it that far. In the rear the 285's are a little wide and have a little rub on the very outside of the corner wall/tread. I considered rolling the finder openings to alleviate this. Also I'm running Z06 Corvette rims with 2" spacers - so I have ordered a pair of 1 1/2" spacers to hopefully remedy the problem (the inner fender opening cuts/groves the corner of the 285's on extreme bumps). So if the spacers do not do the trick, or if they move the tire/rim in to far, I will have to roll the inner fender openings flat. I love the extra width of the 285's so I'm willing to deal with it.


A friend several years back installed Lowering springs, and then torched a couple of coils on top of that, and got his Z28 down 3 1/4". It's hard to remember the exact size of his front tire width (Knowing him and guessing they were probably 225's??). He never complained about any problems like that, just how easy it was to bottom out on extreme speed bumps he said. Oh and he could not fit at the car wash, or on local auto shop lifts any more - strictly floor jacks from then on. He loved the height and was dealing with the extra problems that came with being that low.

So I guess if you have springs that only take it down like 1.5" drop, add the 1.8" of Spindle drop, and that's pretty much in the same area of 3 1/4" down.

~Ed~

TraviZ

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I am really tempted to try this, worst case, I can put in those rubber coil spring isolators that raise it like an inch. I hope I can fit my 315's out back with the sportlines.

cocacolakidd

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Hey TraviZ let me know if you can get the 315's to fit in the rear. My 285's at 11.25" wide are a tight fit - maybe. Those 315's at 12.40" tread width gotta be close.

thanks, ~Ed~

AngryBird

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Add me to the list! I will order a pair.

super_kev

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Sorry, the GP is up. You'll have to order them on your own.

cocacolakidd

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Hello Nevasuma,

contact Anthony Jones at:
Contact: The New AJE Racing.com - K-members, coil overs, brakes
aje@gte.net
Anthony Jones at 1-800-877-7233

He can line you up with some dropped spindles.

cocacolakidd

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Hello,

To all who purchased Dropped Spindles from AJE Racing - from this group purchase.

This is a letter I sent to a fellow member who purchased a set of the Dropped Spindles - As we are all wondering what is going on with the Spindles that were manufactured wrongly.

Hello XXXX,

I did not get any letter from AJE. I have been calling, and emailing them for the longest time - well since I received my spindles. As we all know the spindles as they are one cannot mount any of our known brake systems on them. On one phone call a fellow told me they were not built correctly and there was a revision due soon - months go by - On another call a fellow told me I could send them back for refund, but there was a 40% restocking fee. I finally left a message on Anthony Jone's voice mail telling him that I was going to take it to a local court. Then finally he called me back (1-08-07) to tell me there was a letter about the problem, and he was going to have his secretary send me one. I have yet to receive any letter (This day 1-27-07). If their are any revisions to the spindles where are they? It's been a very long time, and there are a set of spindles here that are to me useless. I am going to give AJE a little more time (Three weeks from now), and file a small claims proceedure. Maybe we should file a class action in this case. I'm sure that all that ordered the spindles are in the same boat.

Keep in contact and we will see what comes of it.

Sincerely Ed. (AKA: Cocacolakidd)


Any one that ordered, paid good money, and received the defective spindles please contact me so we may see how to resolve the problem at hand.

Sincerely Ed. (AKA: Cocacolakidd)
email: nushi@charter.net
Home: 541-776-9919
TGO: Cocacolakidd

CrimsonDragon

Ed - I am sorry this has happened. My son had some health problems that held me up purchasing a set. My wife and I were talking about getting a set this year but now it looks like we were lucky to have not purchased them. We just wanted to tell you thanks for all the hard work in trying to get these for all of us.

UDAMON

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great news! i called AJE today and they said the spindles have been remade and they were waiting to recieve them. my guess is they still need to be powder coated so maybe another month till we finally have em? at least we know they're on their way... or should be

john8169

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Ok now they say they will next day air mine, so today is wed.
john

john8169

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Ok I have my spindles. Next day as promissed after a return phone call.
Does anyone know which brakes will fit these new drop spindles? I would like the ls1 or c5/c6 maybe.
Has anyone else returned theirs and received the new ones?

C Murda

ya any updates? i too would like to know the type of brakes that can be used...

FSTFBDY

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any pictures of these things? Are they stock style spindles?
or are thet they race style 2inch drop spindles like I have?

http://www.cecoatings.com/images/Car...coilovers2.jpg
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/Car...lover%20strut/

scooter

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What application are those spindles for?

FSTFBDY

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my camaro.. 82-92

Its a AJE setup..
CF-3900
2" Drop Spindle Struts 3rd Generation $999


Also has aluminum hubs and 4 piston aerospace brakes.

Dave88z

Do they make a spindle with a shorter steering arm? I have a manual rack and I still can't find a spindle that will work without spending big $$$.

FSTFBDY

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If they mke the ones I have in house Im sure they could shorten that arm up some. Call and ask. Unfortunately when you get into custom stuff like were doing ya it cost $$$$

UDAMON

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you guys really need to read though this post before asking the same questions that have been answered over and over and over again.

Dave88z

Then why didnt you just answer it instead of contributing NOTHING to the thread! I have read the entire thread from beginning to end. Its very old and a lot of these questions could not be answered until the new spindles were finalized. On top of that I actually called AJE and they told me NONE of their packages work with strange brakes-which is not true because a well known chassis fabricator/sponser on LS1tech had them ordered off the shelf with strange brakes.
The bottom line is that communication within the company and with customers is
horrible-so I will continue to ask any damn questions I want to!

UDAMON

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ok. ill answer every question about every "what" "if" and "how"

none. no. nothing. nothing will work or fit on these spindles because these spindles will not work or fit on our cars. the group purchase is over. reproduction is in progress. those who've already paid are waiting. no questions need be asked cept by those who've already recieved their new spindles or those who are waiting to. any other questions need to be asked directly to AJE. the echos in this thread are giving me a headace. i see new posts in this thread and i hope to hear some kind of positive news about the progress but it turns out its only the same old questions being asked by those who are just too lazy to read or search through this post.

ask whatever questions you want. but if your looking for answers, you'd better pick up the phone.

john8169

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..

UDAMON

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alright john. #1 you didnt point you question to anybody. #2 heres what i found in 5 mins scrolling though this post. does that answer your question?!!




oh and TPI383, look on page 8. guess what you'll find... pictures yay!

and yes i do sound like an *** because AJE has my money and i have faulty spindles.

im done.

FSTFBDY

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Go roll your eyes at someone else A$Shole. ! Im looking for pic's installed. I could careless about the GP etc. I have 2inch drop spindles with my coil over setup.

UDAMON

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then ask in the AD board. this is the GP board. if you dont care, then leave.

luke4907

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hate to bring this up from the dead but I'm wondering if all these problems ever got taken care of. I'm looking for a set of dropped spindles for my car. Thanks

super_kev

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AJE took my 1st revision spindles back and is replacing them with the new ones right now. I'll post up if there are any more problems.

catc

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Did you get your dropped spindles back yet?

UDAMON

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i called them on the 11th. he said he'd call me back

so ill call him again and see whats up ive been calling on and off for a bit now and havent got much info. last time i talked to him he said they have them back. he didnt mention anything about sending the old ones back though.

super_kev

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I just received mine.

I don't think one can make the spindles work with the LS1/C5/C6 brake upgrade the way they come from AJE, as there doesn't seem to be enough metal around the mounting holes for when you drill them out to accept M12 or 1/2" bolts.

I will probably be welding some 1/4" plate to one side (I think it's the back side, as the brackets will bolt in from the front?) to help beef the area up for where the LS1 adapter plate bolts in. I had hoped AJE might correct this issue in the spindles and add more metal, but I guess not.

catc

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When you get this done can you please tell us what you think about the fit and alignment,what brakes you went with and show before and after photos. Thanks

kyleiroc88

i have belltech spindles on mine, ed's ls1 brakes fit on the perfect

super_kev

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Those are Bell Tech's, these are AJE spindles; big difference (I'd run Bell Tech's if I had the chance). I'll have a writeup on how to modify and install LS1 brakes on the AJE spindles in a little bit.

super_kev

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Review of AJE Racing Dropped Spindles

Unfortunately, AJE's are junk and are not even worthy of being sold. If you have any doubt, read my review:

AJE Racing 1.8" Dropped Spindle Review

jstoltz

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Is AJE doing anything about the problem with these? I bought a set from Ed a while back and didn't know anything about how much of a pita it will be to use c5's or anything else for that matter. They are brand new so maybe I can get a set that works???

Racecraft Inc.

After reading this soap opera about these spindles I just had to post and say if there is something that needs to be revised from the original spindle ie. different brake bracket holes, please email me, we will work with the group to make our spindle as versatile as posible. Racecraft Inc. has been making fabricated drop spindles for 4 years with no complaints yet. Check the link on our front page to Corner Carvers to check out a detailed analysis of our product.

Thanks, Mark

http://www.racecraft.com

super_kev

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Looks good Mark, and a beefy design at that... I'm impressed. I hope the pictures on the site are just "look-pretty" prototypes with small spot welds? I would think you'd want to weld along the whole seams to get max strength.

So there is plenty of room for the Bilstein front strut, correct? The reason I ask is because of my problems in the AJE thread (which you have also posted in). Please test out a set of Bilstein struts with your drop spindles, and let me know if there is room between the inner fender and the strut with the suspension unloaded, and at full steering lock right and left. With the shock mount straight like AJE's (and not offset/bent like the stock spindles) I am worried you'll have clearance problems. The steering arm looks good and nicely braced. Does your spindle come with a set of brackets for stock brakes, or can they be swapped to hold LS1, C6, etc.? And are they a true 2" drop, or 1.8"?

Racecraft Inc.

Super_kev,

Yes, we will weld the entire spindle before we ship them, if you look at our corner carvers thread on our site you can se how we weld the Mustang spindles. There is a reason we had to rotate the strut mount like the AJE.
The spindle moving upward toward the strut mount creates a situation where you cannot get a bolt in the lower mounting position. If we keep the strut mounted in the stock position we will not be able to get a bolt in the lower hole. I did not read your entire review, I did notice the trimming that you did on the K-member, did that solve the problem? I will go back and read the entire review. Right now the only brake holes are the dust cover holes that we drilled and tapped. It looks like other brackets can be bolted to these holes ? I am not sure ? Like the Mustang spindle we started out building them for drag racing with tubular K-members and coil over kits. Now we need to modify our design to cover other set ups. The spindle is a full 2" drop.

Thanks, Mark

luke4907

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Very interesting, Mark. Lack of interest in the past drove companies to stop making drop spindles for thirdgens, but I hope yours are high-quality parts that sell well. You should get someone to independently review a set for thirdgens (like you did with the guy on Corner Cutters). Everyone who had problems with the AJE models would probably go for yours if someone gives them a good review.

IMHO, the individual pricing is a bit high compared to other manufacturers (granted some didn't work right, but still). Maybe we can get a GP going on yours using the quote from AJE below as a guideline. I put the bold text in to illustrate the discount AJE offered for that GP. Let us know what you can do. Thanks!

scooter

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Looks like you have a high quality product there Mark! If I was still interested in the drop spindles I think I would buy them. I would like to see a completed unit welded too, guess I could look at the mustang ones. I also like the fact you integrated the steering components Only thing negative I would say is those things must weigh a lot, but maybe not too much more than stockers?

Racecraft Inc.

Thanks Scooter,

The spindles are beefy, but we want to make sure they will work for a variety of customers. We built them on the same type of format we used on the Mustang spindles this has proved to be successful in the past. We will post the weights soon, but you are right they weight about the same as stock. Durability is our first priority.

Thanks, Mark

CrimsonDragon

Mark-
Keep us posted as many of us would have been looking for these for awhile now. Thanks for your efforts so far.

kewl_blades

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Awesome! Is the drop exactly 2" or is that just a rounded number?
Expect an order from me on Nov 5th!
I noticed your design was in a 3D CAD model.
What program did you use (Inventor or SoildWorks) and would you be able to send me the full smart solid?
email is cad_prof@yahoo.com
While you are at it, would you also send me some info on the kmember, A-arms and Strange 4 piston front brake package for the 3rd Gen.
It would be sweet if you could make the brake package you have pictured available with the spindles at a reduced cost.

luke4907

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Mark, are you open to the idea of a GP on these?

GP GP GP

FSTFBDY

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I'd deff. sell my AJE drop spindles and coil over setup for the ones racecraft makes. They look like they will be a quality piece. So if someone is interested in a hell of a deal on mine feel free to let me know...
its the CF-3900 on AJEs site.

greezemonkey

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Chris, I`ve seen those struts, I`m semi interested...I viewed your pictures of them and I still cannot see where the lower ball joint attaches? also are the steer arms for a rack? PM details and your asking price + whats included. Thanks

FSTFBDY

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I'll take some more pic's of the one off the car today and one thats On the car.

The lower ball joint goes right in the center of the spindle. I'll shoot ya a PM or e-mail ya back again.

luke4907

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hey everyone, I'm trying to setup a group purchase of the Racecraft Inc. dropped spindles. I've created a new thread for it. If anyone is interested, please go to the link below. Thanks!

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/grou...e-dropped.html