I'm starting a new list since I can't edit my original one. Please have a look at the prices I've listed below. If, and ONLY if you are ready to buy AND have money in hand, then please reply again on here stating your commitment to buy. Mark has agreed to include their 4th gen spindles as well as the 3rd gen rack & pinion spindles in the group purchase. If you have any friends that'd be interested, make sure to let them know. Let me know if you want 3rd gen, 3rd gen (rack & pinion; let me know if you need a rack as well), or 4th gen dropped spindles. The GP discounts are as follows: 10 pair and over 10% : $550 - $ 55.00 = $495.00 20 pair and over 15% : $550 - $ 82.50 = $467.50 30 pair and over 20% : $550 - $110.00 = $440.00 50 pair and over 25% : $550 - $137.50 = $412.50 3rd gen spindles (rack & pinion) can be purchased w/ a rack from Racecraft at a 10% discount. Normal price on a rack is $199.00 so 10% off would mean $179.10. On a side note, if anyone needs any type of brakes, brackets, or hubs, I'm sure Ed Miller will be able to provide them. Keep in mind, the C5/C6 and Wilwood brakes DO NOT need different brackets. Unless Mark and Ed want to do things differently, I think the brakes/brackets/hubs should be dealt with and paid for on an individual basis with Ed. I'll create a separate list for Ed's offerings. Thanks everyone!! Racecraft Inc. 2" Dropped Spindles ---------------------------------- 1. kewl_blades - 3rd gen stock steering 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. Ed Miller's Brakes, Brackets, and/or Wheel Hubs --------------------------------------------- 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10.

I am down for the dropped spindles. Stock steering.

I will post up if I am interested in the brake setups. There are way too many options and prices for me to commit to anything until the post is made by both Ed and Mark with their options and prices.

Ed?
Mark?

I'm here....

Here's the test shots I promised you guys. I'll be contacting Mark soon so we can work out the details as some brackets fit without issue and some don't.

Brackets I have that will fit these spindles without issue are C5/C6, Wilwood kit brackets for the 12.2" "GTA" wheel kit and the 13" kit I offer.

12.2" and 13" Wilwood (similar brackets):


C5:


C5/C6 caliper with ZO6 14" rotor:


Brackets I offer that currently have issues with the spindles are the C4/C4 HD, LS1, and CTS-V brackets.

CTS-V/LS1 style (similar brackets):


C4/C4 HD:


The two problem brackets interfere where the lower abutment bracket bolt hole is located. The steering stop bolts are in the same area as well as the spindle material itself, it will have to be trimmed and/or cut out in order to get the necessary bolt in there. Honestly, with the drop the spindles give the steering stop can probably be removed completely without issue as the stock spindle doesn't hit the stock cast stop anyway and this may be the case here.

I will have fully assembled test setup pics soon so you guys can see the finished product will look like.

Input welcome..thanks!

Ed

Awesome.
Ed, PM me your price on the BLACK C5/C6 caliper with zinc coated ZO6 14" rotor setup complete with everything needed including SS brake lines.

Looks great Ed, I guess we need to figure out if that steering stop can be completely removed. Thanks again for your input and hard work!

If it could redesigned that would be better, as I like steering stops for a street car.

Looks like we could rotate the caliper up for more clearance. Ed?

Mark

I am ready to buy. 2" drop spindles for 3rd gen stock steering. When is this going to happen?

PM-ing you.

Well I'm not sure where we stand with this anymore but I'm no longer getting any e-mail notifications from thirdgen.org so I didn't even noticed anyone had replied. If anyone wants to take this over and make it happen feel free to do so. If not I'll do my best. I'm still curious where we stand as far as the steering stops.

Sounds to me like Racecraft was waiting to hear from Ed regarding rotating the caliper to clear the stops. I wouldn't throw in the towel yet.

I think you're right. Somehow I've fixed my notifications (I think). I'll still do everything I can to make this happen. We'll wait to hear from Ed.

Ed, I'm PMing you regarding the fitment of your C4/C4 HD, LS1, and CTS-V brackets. Mark has offered to make new ones that won't hit the steering stop, but he'd need some of yours as a template to work off of. Thanks

Sorry for the delay in any update fellas but I've been very, very busy, both with brake work and the real job. It happens.

I'll be calling Mark today (Wednesday) and giving him an update. I just finished making changes to my LS1 and C4 patterns so at this time I have brackets ready for the following: 12-13" C4, 12" LS1, C5/C6 (12.75-14"), 12.2" and 13" Wilwoods. I would like some time to get the patterns back from my vendor and make sure they work but we need to know which setups you guys want to run so we can make the brackets that we will need. I don't mind doing the work but I don't want to have a shelf full of spare brackets that no one needs, I'm sure you all understand that. I will likely make a run of 3-5 pair of each to start, make sure they work like I like and then go from there. Again, once I talk to Mark you'll be better informed.

Thanks all.

Ed

What you have ready is what most of us run (C4, C5/6, LS1, Wilwoods). I have LS1 brackets myself, so I'd say those are the most important.

I have the new patterns finished and will likely send them to the cutter this week based on my conversations with Mark. Here's a shot of how the new LS1 brackets will look, minor spindle clearancing will be required around the lower bolt hole for the socket head abutment bolts.

Ed

Can we get some spindles that do not require any additional work?
After spending close to $2000 for a new front brake setup, it would be nice for everything to work together right out of the box.

+1. Between the spindles and a GTA setup I'll be in about $2000. Personally I won't be using the LS1 setup, but this should be a bolt-in setup for everyone, including current LS1 brake users. Ed and Mark I hope you're able to resolve this for us. It'd be a shame to have to grind away at the shiny powdercoat on those spindles. Let us know please, thanks

Settle down guys. I think what Ed is saying to Mark is to clearance the spindle for the production units.

exactly. That's what I'm hoping and I was just curious as to the details of their conversations. Hopefully Mark will be able to do that for us. I just want to be proactive about this to make sure we don't end up with problems.

Ed, send me a bracket so we can get the spindle modified or email me a drawing and I will cut one out. If you can send a bracket call the shop I will get you our UPS account #.

Thanks, Mark
http://www.racecraft.com

Thanks for helping out with this Mark

I have installed the dropped spindles for the rack and Pinion, here is a couple pictures of the car's stance

Count me out of the group purchase. I bought the spindles on my own.

572_Rat thanks for the pics. I think that's the stance we're all looking for.

Mark, we had a hold up with the laser cutter. I'll call you tomorrow on the brackets, I'm off all day.

Ed

Thanks for the pics, it looks great - Which brake setup are you using?

Aerospace Front Pro 4 piston street brakes, they fit without any problems, complete bolt in, no mods needed

Hey guys.. I got the new LS1 and C4 brackets in today, I'll be sending some to Mark so he can modify the spindles accordingly. I'll post up a few pics later. We have brackets for C5/C6, LS1, 12" and 13" C4, and any Wilwood kit I have made.

Thanks!

Ed

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Thanks, Mark

Sorry Mark, but I don't see a place on your website to enter my e-mail address. Help?

Our web guy took it down because he said it was not working properly. He will get it fixed today.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Mark

luke4907,

The email list is now working. Sign up now, tell your friends.

Mark

Done, thanks Mark!

Wow, the spindles look great. I may go this route on my next project!!!!

I already have a set of lowering spindles on one of my 3rd gens. The other has an eibach pro-kit.

-jason

So what is the difference between the 2 versions of the lowered spindles for the 3rd Gen Fbody?

One set is a direct replacement for what you have now

the other is if you've swapped in a rack and pinion into your car..... pretty slick honestly.

-jason

If any of you guys are members of LS1 Tech we have a group purchase going on over there that goes off at the end of July heres the link:
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=951848

I still have not received any thing from Ed on the brakes, hang in there.


Mark

Ed still waiting for your bracket please call me and give me an update?

507-243-4104

Mark

Ed must be really busy. I sent him a PM from another board a while ago and have not heard back from him.

I have been trying to buy a kit from ed for 3 weeks now. Does anybody know what is going on with ed? Is everything ok?

He was online yesterday... any updates Ed?

I got in touch with ed and ordered a kit. Just waiting for it to come in!

How did you get ahold of him?
He hasn't responded here or PM's.
RaceCraft, have any of the issues been resolved?
I just got a new front suspension setup and looking to get some new front spindles and brakes from RaceCraft.

Hi fellas, again I apologize for being a bit late with an update. I have sent Mark the C4 and LS1 brackets to test with the spindles and we're working on the details on those, some minor tweaking may still be needed.

I did just finish up a 13" Wilwood kit using the C4 HD rotor and the FSL caliper and will post pics of that later this evening. I think Jesse will like this setup very well.

Please PM or call me directly or e-mail as needed, I try to respond in order of my contacts and do my best to respond in a timely manner but sometimes I do lose track of contacts. If I haven't got back to you shoot me another message or call. Thanks!

Ed

here is my setup. Just waiting for those brakes! should be getting them tomorrow!

Here's a few test shots of Jesse's kit as described above, just bolt it right on to the RC spindles. I hope to have some test shots of LS1 and possibly C4 brakes later this evening with the new prototype test brackets.

Ed





To keep the bracket weight down I used a small aluminum spacer between the spindle and bracket. These are not needed on stock spindles but are with the RC spindles:

Nice legs there, ED! LOL

Looking sharp!

rofl I didn't even catch that the first time around... very nice! haha