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Old 01-10-2011, 02:19 PM
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Does the license plate slide down or or how since my car is a bit low and i think it will hit.
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Originally Posted by Dartht33bagger
See for me, if a Camaro does not have black headlight buckets it looks odd. That is one of my favorite things about these cars is the black buckets.
I'm still undecided if I will leave the buckets body colour or paint them. Gonna drive it for a while and then decide (when the snow leaves )

Originally Posted by JR350tpi
Does the license plate slide down or or how since my car is a bit low and i think it will hit.
The plate folds down 90 degrees and then slides straight back (the electric version does this with a motor that "pulls" the plate back). The license plate actually sits higher than the bottom of the nose so the nose will scrape before the plate will.

In Ontario, we have to run a plate on the front so its more for hiding the plate at shows than anything else.

If the police stop me for no plate, I tell them the kids must have done it.

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Dude it is looking very nice. Love the plate holder! Good luck and I'd almost consider the electric one so you could just flip it up from inside the car if the cops pull you over....
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Wow i just went through this whole thread and the progress looks great! Any updates?
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Wow i just went through this whole thread and the progress looks great! Any updates?
The project is on hold as I just picked up an 87 Trans Am WS6 with only 87,000mi to drive for the summer and into next year. Money to get the project on the road went into the TA.

We are talking about doing a "live build" next year at Performance World Car Show; consisting of Dynamat the front half of the car and doors, replacing all door weatherstripping, new front carpet, reupholster the headliner and custom door panels. All the work needs to be done in three days

For now I'm picking up parts needed to change all the interior and exterior lighting to true LEDs.
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How much dynamat are you using to cover the rear and front of the car. Also, how far up the firewall are you going? I want to cover the floor of mine before I install the interior.
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I am intersted in what you have gathered and what your plan is for the true LED interior and exterior
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I am intersted in what you have gathered and what your plan is for the true LED interior and exterior
So far all the exterior lights have been changed to LED's.

As for the interior, I only have the 9 led dome light so far. All the interior lights (194's) will be changed. The dash and console will get the brightest clear light I can find, while the under dash lights/footwell will be bright blue. My humount plate will be blue to match the deck and add symmetry to the interior colour.
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How much dynamat are you using to cover the rear and front of the car. Also, how far up the firewall are you going? I want to cover the floor of mine before I install the interior.
Sorry, I missed your post earlier.

I'll probably use another 2 36sq.ft. packs to do the front and doors (inner and outer). Probably 3 bulks pack or 108 sq.ft. in total.

If I have any left over, I start at the bottom of the firewall and work the area that will be under the carpet. I don't need to cover the entire firewall. Doors and floors are the most important areas to do. I also doubled up on the area over the cats.

I'll also add some Raammat ensolite to cover most of the dynamat.
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As far az exteriors did you find any lights worked better then others as fae as amount of leds per bulb or anything
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As far az exteriors did you find any lights worked better then others as fae as amount of leds per bulb or anything
I went with a more is better philosophy. MY rear lens and front bumper bulbs have 36 led's. I also took the tail lights apart and repainted the inside bright silver to help with the light reflection.

Just be careful and insure the led's you purchase fit through the bulb opening on the lens. I've heard of a few guys that had to grind the opening as the led's were too big.
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I am going to have to check it out. I VHT red nighshade my front bumper light and side markers. Came out nice, and I think some really bright LEDS would set it off. Right now because my car is a satin black, at night it looks like red eyes coming at you.
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I am going to have to check it out. I VHT red nighshade my front bumper light and side markers. Came out nice, and I think some really bright LEDS would set it off. Right now because my car is a satin black, at night it looks like red eyes coming at you.
Sounds cool. Throw some pics up.
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Looks more red in person
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Looking great!!!
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Damn, your car is coming along great! Looks awesome, keep up the work, truly inspiring!
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Damn, your car is coming along great! Looks awesome, keep up the work, truly inspiring!
Thanks

I'm collecting parts to completely redo my suspension, rear and lines. Everything will be new...except the Borla.
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Been under the Camaro lately cleaning the undercarriage in preparation of using some POR-15 getting applied in the spring.

Meanwhile, I picked up some more new parts for when I replace the suspension and all the lines. Did a rough mock up on the pool table.

IROC 36/24mm sway bar combo
UMI wonderbar
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Spohn front and TDS rear swarbar bushings
All new hardware
Inline Tube SS fuel lines
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Borla cat back

Can't wait for spring...note to self, put car on hoist getting too old for the creeper.

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I love the mockup. Good way to visualize ahead of time.
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The Project--
I gotta Lol the pool table!!

My Bride isn't exactly over-joyed~ her pool table has our interior plastics & headliner taking residence!!!

Thanks for proving there's more than 2 uses for a pool table!!....
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Car looks great! Looked like brand new once you put the front nose back on! Do you have a link for those gauge faces? I can't find one that changes colors like yours does.
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Thanks guys. Appreciate the feedback.

Awesome-X...I picked up the gauge inlays from ebay a while back.
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Decided it was time to repaint the hood louvers.

I bought some 400 grit sandpaper to remove the oxidization and a can of SEM trim black spray paint.

Old louver on the top (with all the oxidization), while the one on the bottom has been prep sanded with 400 grit sandpaper.



I made sure I sanded the edges and the underneath of the louvers so the paint would adhere properly. After I sanded each louver I washed them with some Mothers car wash and thoroughly rinsed them off and let stand to dry.

Paint wise, each louver was sprayed three times - top-to-bottom, bottom-to-top and top-to-bottom again. This way the underside of the louver receives the proper amount of paint.

The outcome.....pretty darn nice. Very happy with the result.





SEM Trim Black (satin finish) $15.00

I noticed the light reflecting off your louvers and it got me thinking about highlighting that section with body stripe colour or something similar,... I'm trying to imagine what it would look like now. I have never seen it done before.
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I noticed the light reflecting off your louvers and it got me thinking about highlighting that section with body stripe colour or something similar,... I'm trying to imagine what it would look like now. I have never seen it done before.
That sounds pretty cool.
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What are good sites for buying all the interior stuff? like the plastic siding in the back with the trunk and the whole dash and all??
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What are good sites for buying all the interior stuff? like the plastic siding in the back with the trunk and the whole dash and all??
Classic Industries and Year One have some stuff as does Hawks Third Gen (Bruce at Hawks is AWESOME and helpful).

I have the most luck trolling ebay and other f-body sites. Many of the bigger interior panels I picked up from a guy in Ohio (8 hours away) who contacted me thru a post I put on the Ohio fbody site. It pays to put the word out as much as you can and follow up.

You could also try perrypam (www.moderndaymuscle.com) he sometimes has stuff or can find stuff if you ask that is not on the website.

You have to be truly patient and determined especially when it comes to an NOS black interior. In 5 years I have only ever seen one spare tire panel cover (NOS, black and still in the original GM box) on ebay. It is currently in my car. Even a pair of NOS kick panels (no carpet) will go for over $100.
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Car will be going to the shop in a few weeks. Right now I'm pulling the heads off the 305 for some screw-in studs, then installing the ZZ4 cam GMPP springs, locks and retainers and getting the engine together with a comp cams double roller timing chain before the car goes on the hoist.

Will be sending the k-member, a-arms and engine accessory brackets over to the powder coater while I work on the undercarriage.

Also decided to pull the headliner down as it was sagging pretty badly.

Few shots or the roof...pretty clean, almost new

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Got the car over to the shop to start the teardown on the undercarriage.

Kmember, a-arms, heat shields and brackets went off the the sand blaster. They will be coated in POR-15 after they get stripped of 20 plus years of rust and dirt.

Engine accessory brackets and spindles were sent to Fireball for powder coating.

The entire front suspension was disassembled. Sway bars, links and bushings went to the scrap yard as I have all new pieces going in. Same for the fuel and brake lines but I saved the clips just in case.

All the bolts and nuts were kept and cleaned up. They were soaked in CLR for three hours, cleaned with a nail brush, soaked in PO 15 Marine clean (1:1 dilution) for another two hours and then rinsed and dried. It was a lot of cleaning but worth the effort. I will repaint the bolt heads so they look pretty.

Reassembly will begin soon.

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K-Member and Arms back from the sand blaster

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Bare front end - dis-assembly complete

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Discovered a few issues. Will have to address some unforeseen rust before we reassemble.

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How she sits now...waiting.
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Spent the day painting parts and applying the POR-15 to the a-arms and k-member.

Good idea to wear gloves when using POR-15. Long sleeves are an idea as well. Took a fair bit of work to apply the coating to the inside of the k-member. Dollar store foam paint brushes came in useful. Glad I got three sets.

Decided the best way was to hang twine and metal hangers from the garage beams and let the parts sit just below chest height to be painted. Used a small LED flashlight to ensure no spots were missed. Very easy to miss a spot or put too little in some areas. I gave the parts two coats to ensure they stayed looking good for some time.

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Bolts getting painted...finally put the wifes shoe boxes to good use.
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Well its been a busy weekend so far. The seam filler in the wheel wells are crumbling with age. Had to clean the seams so we could apply some primer and reseal. I hit the seams and all the rust on the front of the car with the sandblaster. This stuff gets EVERYWHERE.


Me with the sandblaster...it get HHHOT under the mask. Wonder if I can get a Gatorade sponsorship
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Seams primered

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While blasting the pass side I noticed a fair bit of rust in the wheel well. Decided to pull the fender to see what the deal was. Unfortunately the bottom of the fender was rusted beyond repair so I'll have to replace. Also noticed a few holes that will have to be cut our and some new metal weld up. Can actually feel the carpet in one hole.

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Since the fender was off, I decided to pull the front end and have a look.
Might as well give a clean and new coat of paint, clean all the fasteners and tighten everything up. Maybe I should start with the reassembly and not go in reverse.


Did notice that the car was hit on the drivers side in a previous life. Actually found a door pin in the bottom of the fender. Also noticed that some bolts and clips are missing from the front end that that the wheels have been moved back (no alignment after the accident) which explains the rubbing on the inner fenders. LOTS of work to do.....

Here is how I left her.

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Back at it tomorrow.....lots of little jobs to get done and reassemble. The car is worse than I thought especially being in the garage for the past 5+ years. Still...better to get all these little things looked at now as the car is partially disassembled than wait 'till alter and have to take the car apart again. Not sure when it will get done. I honest ly thought I would be driving it by now. Now maybe it will be done by Christmas.
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Here's a few pics of the collision damage to the driver side. Not as bad as I thought but had to pull the fender to see. Also noticed some small rust spots that got blasted clean.

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How I left it on Saturday. I blasted down both sides of the frame rails and underneath.
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So far we have rust 200 lbs (4 bags) of recycled glass for blasting. One more bag should do the trick as I want to blast the rear before applying the POR15. I have to reblast the rad cradle clean as I notices some more...you guessed it rust. I also noticed pin hole rust coming through where the fender meets the battery tray.

Some pics of more pin hole rust on the pass dies.
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I'm glad I covered the front windshield as the glass gets EVERYWHERE. My front door squeaks so bad, I think its haunted.

I'm also painting all the brackets, heat shields (including the gas tank ones) and all accessories. As the car is completely stripped, it cheaper to address all these things now than wait a few years to do a lot of this over again.

Heat shields blasted and sprayed in a Zinc primer and then some high temp header paint.
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Decided to disassemble, clean and repaint the entire headlight assy. I noticed a "Made in Canada" stamp on the header piece. Pretty cool.

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Headlight buckets blasted and painted with black chassis paint
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Same black chassis paint used on the brackets and housing.
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Headlight housing painted black as well. Looks killer over the stock grey.
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Also decided to paint the AIR pump as I was bored and had the materials. Came out pretty goods. Sanded it down with some 180 grit, Zinc primer and silver header paint.

As I have to paint the replacement fender, I decided to ditch the factory hood and will prep fit and install the Harwood Show series Cowl Hood in my basement. Only cost and extra gallon of paint.

Should be starting the reassembly soon. I picked up a few goodies for the engine to help the ZZ4 cam. Comp Cams Chrome Moly Rods and Magnum full roller Roller Rockers.

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awesome work
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Originally Posted by CaliChevyLover
awesome work
Thank you kind sir.

Finished blasting and applied primer to all the panels and underside. Started cutting out the rust spots and will weld in replacement pieces next week. Still need a final sanding before we repaint the engine bay and then begin to reassemble.

Rust cut out

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Engine bay primered.

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Rust issues are finally coming to an end.

Picked up some flat sheet metal and started test fitting pieces and cutting into shape.

Next step was to tack weld in place and finished off with the mig and a grinder. The pieces look pretty good.

Started to apply the seam sealer with a tube gun (white). After it cured, we went back over with paint on seam sealer (black) to ensure all the air holes were covered.

All the rust holes have been cut out, patched and sealed.

Next weekend, we start prepping the engine bay for paint....then its reassembly time. Hopefully have the car running by the end of the month.

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Prepping to get the engine bay painted and started thinking about how and where to mount the wiper fluid and rad overflow bottles. I bought stainless steel bottles to save space and have a cleaner look. Also wanted to move the AC accumulator (dryer) as the pass side seems to look "busy".

Here is what I came up with...Steel box fitted inside the battery tray, holes cut for the bottles and brackets made to mount everything to. Since the bottles are stainless steel, I'll put some tubing around the opening.

I also cut and welded in some angle iron for brackets and drilled a hole in the mount to secure to one of the threaded holes in the battery tray. Didn't want to weld the box in place.

Lastly, sanded the boxes with some 180 grit and hit the new boxes with some primer.

Pretty happy with the results......

Box cut and ends folded ready for welding
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Test fit...Wiper fluid lines and pump will be hidden.
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AC dryer test fit
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Plasma cutter made quick work of the hold cutting.

Stock holder for the AC dryer will be reused but removed the stock mounting bracket and fabbed up something easier.

Now working on re-routing the AC lines and A.I.R. pump while still meeting emissions.
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Here are few shots of the holders primered and brackets welded on. The other hole is for the attachment bolt that will secure the steel box to the battery tray below.

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Test fit of the new UMI STB.

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TIME FOR PAINT!!!!!!

Decided to cover the top part of the engine bay where the wipers sit and overlap the fenders to ensure full coverage.

Laying down the first coat.

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Final Coat

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Spent the day applying the Duplicolor bed liner to the inner fenders, tranny tunnel, underside, frame rails and rad cradle.

If you're going to use this stuff (and it works great) a few things; the supplied roller does not work on non flat surfaces but thankfully the supplied brush does, go the dollar store and buy another brush (for the second coat) and a smaller brush (1") for the hard to reach places, lastly USE GLOVES!! bed liner is a pain to remove!!

You should apply two coats and the second coat can go on a bit thicker. It dries quickly and there is little smell. I put three coats on the rad cradle just because.

It dries to a texture but as you won't see most of the bed liner, it doesn't matter if it dries smooth or not.

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Picked up a set of almost new SLP headers and matching Y pipe. They look like they were never used and have no rust on them. Decided to give them a few coats of High Temp paint. Came out pretty good. Wonder if VHT will give me a discount!!

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ENGINE REBUILD TIME.
Few pics of the engine teardown and prep before adding the ZZ4 cam, springs and retainers as well as Comp Cams Pro Magnum rockers, Comp Cams Chrome Moly rods, Comp Cams double roller timing chain, MSD 8.8 wires, Holley AFPR and above mentioned SLP headers.

Motor was in storage at the shop for a few years. Came out of a US IROC with only 35,000 mi.

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Removed parts waiting for a good clean.

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Will start the build next week.
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Quick update…head work today.

Removed the factory push-in studs and then taped the holes for the Comp Cams screw-in studs. It was a MAJOR PIA to tap the studs by hand but well worth the effort. Used LOTS of oil to keep the tool from getting hot while tapping and cleaned after each stud.

Discovered the ZZ4 springs would not fit the 305 heads without machining the spring pocket. Fortunately, my mechanic “just happened” to have a complete set of Comp Cams bee hive springs with matching retainers and locks. A quick call to Com Cams and “Randy” at CC confirmed the springs would fit but the exhaust valves would probably need a spacer to keep valve float at bay. Good news is the springs are good for 600 lift!!

Lastly, installed Fel-Pro posi valve seals to keep the excess oil from coming thru.

Will post pics next week.
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Since the valve covers were off the car, decided to give them a good clean, light 180 grit scuff and apply some Duplicolor Charcoal Gray Met. paint. Didn't turn out too bad.

Picked up a set if TPIS runners and port matched plenum. Haven't decided what to do with the paint scheme yet

Anyone have ideas?

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Picked up a set of TPIS large tube runners, had them stripped and powdercoated in Black Chrome.

Here are some before and after shots and the runners with the painted valve covers. Looks pretty good so far.

Still not sure what to do with the plenum.

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Valve covers and runners look awesome!! Great progress!
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Started the engine reassembly.

Heads with the Comp Cams valve springs & Fel-Pro posi valve seals.
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Shot of the block...no cracks or "extra metal" present
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ZZ4 cam installed
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Comp Cams Double Roller Timing Chain

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Melling High Volume oil pump and solid shaft
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Lifters reinstalled

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Reusing the stock oil pan and added a deeper timing chain cover to clear the double roller. More pics soon.
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I enjoyed doing my first rebuild. Makes me itch to do another one. I hope someday I have the patience to do a complete teardown on my car as well, maybe my wife's car too! Thanks for the updates!
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Had the spindles and engine accessory brackets powdercoated in a flat black. Came out pretty good.

Here are a few pics.

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Re: 1989 Camaro - "The Project" Begins...

Originally Posted by The Project
Picked up a set of TPIS large tube runners, had them stripped and powdercoated in Black Chrome.

Here are some before and after shots and the runners with the painted valve covers. Looks pretty good so far.

Still not sure what to do with the plenum.

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Man that looks sharpe, man that would look great with a polished plenum, I think it would make it pop! Or just murder it out with that black chrome. Still would be sharpe either way. Now your new problem, are you going with a aftermarket tb or stock one? then another choice powder coat or polished.
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Good choice. They look great!
Thank you.

Originally Posted by dacuma
Man that looks sharpe, man that would look great with a polished plenum, I think it would make it pop! Or just murder it out with that black chrome. Still would be sharpe either way. Now your new problem, are you going with a aftermarket tb or stock one? then another choice powder coat or polished.
Will either polish the plenum or paint it silver. Keeping the stock TB for now but will paint it flat black in the spring. The plenum is ported out to fit a 58mm so I don't need to worry if I decide to upgrade the tb later on.


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