0-6psi in < 48hrs
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Re: 0-6psi in < 48hrs
Thats it! I am serious that I am gonna have you do this 99.9%..... Bring it on!
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John, I want to see an add such as this (Click Here), but with your logo at the end when all is said and done. Once the 454-SBC is installed with the T88 turbo charger, I'd be honored to be in your video add bro. Hehe, wouldn't mind smoking the heck out of a few Lamborghini's down there while I'm at it. Heh, "700-AWHP", BRING IT....!!!!
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Thats it! I am serious that I am gonna have you do this 99.9%..... Bring it on!
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Originally Posted by firstfirebird
How long until your motor is built? Cool video, too.
-Rob
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Thats it! I am serious that I am gonna have you do this 99.9%..... Bring it on
-Rob (the DO IT guy)
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The company is actually based near to where I grew up once upon a time (Click Here), as I plan on purchasing they're crate 454-SBC. Only difference is they will be greatly reducing static compression for my application. I'm entertaining a few offers with the Z06, so hopefully this will happen during the next couple of months. Either way, we can at least get the turbo setup completed using the stock LB9 as a mock up....
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^ Click here, my cylinder heads are going to be a little more aggressive....
The 60* heads can lift to about .75" max, but there isn't a spring that will allow it. The yellow springs will allow me ~.510". I'm just concerned about the valve to piston clearance for the cam selection - 3.4 pistons have a very small dish and the aluminum heads are already heve interference issues if timing is slightly off.
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Re: 0-6psi in < 48hrs
You give me a figure and we will start from there.....
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So Loner made the 3hr drive down here on Thursday to install his turbo, got here about noon and drove home this morning about the same time (Sat)...
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http://www.thedodgegarage.com/the_reliant.html
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A decent hyperuetectic will not expand as much as a cast piston when heated. To me that would seem better. Yeah, they are more brittle though. If the tune is right then hypers would seem to be better due to the heat factor. Sound right?
Any piston rattling with boost will have a short life. Some shorter than others.
Any piston rattling with boost will have a short life. Some shorter than others.
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The extra silicone in hypereutectics makes them brittle, but very slick. Hypereutectics are great for n/a engines that aren't likely to see detonation because you can run tighter clearances with less chance of scuffing, but they can't handle detonation. Cast is more malleable, which makes them more detonation resistant. Instead of shattering they deform a little and absorb the impact, which is why forgings are choice pistons for detonation-prone setups. Forgings will deform far more than castings before breaking. The downside is the extra clearance needed for expansion (especially in high-heat boosted engines), whereas castings don't expand nearly as much.
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That's from the Reliant Read the link I gave above.
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The extra silicone in hypereutectics makes them brittle, but very slick. Hypereutectics are great for n/a engines that aren't likely to see detonation because you can run tighter clearances with less chance of scuffing, but they can't handle detonation. Cast is more malleable, which makes them more detonation resistant. Instead of shattering they deform a little and absorb the impact, which is why forgings are choice pistons for detonation-prone setups. Forgings will deform far more than castings before breaking. The downside is the extra clearance needed for expansion (especially in high-heat boosted engines), whereas castings don't expand nearly as much.
That seems to be backwards from everything I've read and everything I've personally experianced.
In the Franken60, since I didn't have proper tuning equipment at the time and too small of an injector, my engine would detonate when I pushed it hard. The pistons after 2 years and 20,000+ KMs of HARD abuse looked brand new when they came out and are now in yet another force fed engine belonging to someone else.
Cast pistons seem to shatter easier than hypereutectic, and this would be attributed to (usually) a lower silicon content, and possible casting process inconsistancies.
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That would be right. Most oem pistons are of poor quality aluminum and are loaded with junk you don't want in a performance piston and tend to break easier than quality hypereutectics. With the amount of focus most afermarket producers put into their hypereutectics they come out much 'cleaner' than their replacement-type castings. But quality clean castings are more malleable than equivalent hypereutectics. It's all about quality.
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so its a 4 door corsica with a auto? all i can wonder is why? that tranny will be toast when its beat on even with out the added power, sigh oh well. next time do it in a cavalier z24 with a 5 speed then it will be cool.
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I so its a 4 door corsica with a auto? all i can wonder is why? that tranny will be toast when its beat on even with out the added power, sigh oh well. next time do it in a cavalier z24 with a 5 speed then it will be cool.
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Ahh man congrats on build now im dieing to get a turbo on my little 2.8l firebird. How much would you charge for a weld it your self kit? I reli only need the pipes and the little things. Im looking to run about 6 psi mabe 7 topps. I do live in NY tho so i dont know what im going to have to do for inspection.
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New times!
13.1 @ 109...
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ica_169994.htm
Still the same boost, but with meth injection and drag radials (still spinning). Unfortunately, he hurt the motor on the next run, thinks it may be a ring. Trying to talk him into a 3500 swap
13.1 @ 109...
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ica_169994.htm
Still the same boost, but with meth injection and drag radials (still spinning). Unfortunately, he hurt the motor on the next run, thinks it may be a ring. Trying to talk him into a 3500 swap
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No corsica should be able to do a low 13 pass. I'm going to protest if it sees 12's.
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New times!
13.1 @ 109...
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ica_169994.htm
Still the same boost, but with meth injection and drag radials (still spinning). Unfortunately, he hurt the motor on the next run, thinks it may be a ring. Trying to talk him into a 3500 swap
13.1 @ 109...
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ica_169994.htm
Still the same boost, but with meth injection and drag radials (still spinning). Unfortunately, he hurt the motor on the next run, thinks it may be a ring. Trying to talk him into a 3500 swap
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Protest all you want Ill have video and slips to prove it. But your right, no Corsica should be seeing times/power like this but its fun as hell and everyones reactions are great
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I bet you get some looks. Seriously though, I couldn't imagine anything more entertaining than whooping someone with a corsica.
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According to my buddy people laugh when they see me pull up, but quickly stop when they hear the Tial 50mm and then see the car take off down the track then they look like this
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And I thought I was lol. I could only hope to see times like that but I really doubt my stock trans and bottom end will allow for that
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^ Relentless part II, Click Here, only.... Corsica style!
I love that car. Do you realize he was running 30psi on stock cast pistons? I read the whole story on thedodgegarage.
Loner needs slicks, he has now gotten a 13 flat at 111mph.
Can't wait until mine is done so we can see what this kind of combination can do when the car can hook
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Well until I can get slick you wont be seeing an 12second slips or videos from this car. I cant launch the car off the line past 2500rpm if I want any hope at traction, even on drag radials. That 13.0 run my MBC messed up and I was running 15psi on WAY to much meth. I figure out last night the biggest meth nozzle I need, even on 15psi is a 6gph, I currently have a 12gph installed . Once I find my 7gph nozzle that I just took out Im going to put that one back in and go for new times..........once I figure out what Im doing about my turbo. I dropped it off Monday to be checked. It needs a full rebuild and have the center bored out. Something went through it and messed it up (I have a few internal issues I try to forget about and not tell anyone that I think caused this). Long story short, I dont have the $335 I need to repair the current center section so Im taking them another one I have here in hopes they can put my 60trim/stage3 wheels in that one...Ill update on that later if I can remember
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Re: 0-6psi in < 48hrs
Kick ***! Your car or someone else's v6?
How do you think the single WRX turbo sitting next to me would work on my stock 2.8?
How do you think the single WRX turbo sitting next to me would work on my stock 2.8?
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the wrx turbo is gonan prolly be to small u need atleast a t3 sized turbo preferably a 50 or 60 trim
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I checked out the map, it looks like it flows about 30lbs/min. I think a t3 flows about 33lbs.
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hmm that should work out pretty good im used to most of the import turbos being small like the elcipse turbos and stuff.
what size ex housing does it have?
what size ex housing does it have?
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I don't think it's got any markings. I think it would probably spool at like 1500, but that might not be too terrible seeing that my 2.8 spins to about 4500. I think the suby motor makes a similar amount of power N/A as the 2.8.
It was basically free so I'll probably try it sometime when I've got some extra money.
It was basically free so I'll probably try it sometime when I've got some extra money.
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lol that 2.8 will want to spin up high as long as the ex housing isnt choking it
also hope ur not planing on getting good gas milage well mine went up alot BUT its so dam hard to keep ur foot out of it lol
also hope ur not planing on getting good gas milage well mine went up alot BUT its so dam hard to keep ur foot out of it lol
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That's it, time to protest! Even after I get my hybrid built that corsica will still be a second quicker than me!
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The turbo is a to4e t3/t4 60 trim Garrett (that now has an ebay center section woot)
It's a local's car I did the turbo install on.
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