when does the new duke forum come out?
09-21-2005, 08:24 AM
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when does the new duke forum come out?
so when will it be?
you could put it right under the v6 boards under''iron dukes'',or ''four bangers''.
after all its only fair since its the base engine for the car.
you could put it right under the v6 boards under''iron dukes'',or ''four bangers''.
after all its only fair since its the base engine for the car.
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Dirk returns from Sabbatical in 06. He'll probably have a good 8 months worth of unanswered PMs to go over so that will take a minimum of 2 months if he works 6 hours a day. He probably won't get around to addressing this issue until around this time next year. Until then don't hold your breath.
He will have to eliminate one of the boards to make room for this board though. Which board do you think should go first?
He will have to eliminate one of the boards to make room for this board though. Which board do you think should go first?
09-22-2005, 05:49 AM
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well the auto detailing board and the body and interior board
are basicly the same thing.
just combine those two and we have some room.
are basicly the same thing.
just combine those two and we have some room.
09-22-2005, 10:11 AM
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i think you need the miscellaneous third gen stuff board for everything else. The the auto detailing board and the body and interior boards are different but a lot of topics overlap there. I'd still keep those two separate. I really dont see any Forums I'd want to delete.
09-22-2005, 10:32 AM
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you dont think cleaning the body and interior should be put in ''body and interior''?
there realy isnt a point to them being seperate.
there realy isnt a point to them being seperate.
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Body and interior and auto detailing appearance boards are already full.Combining them would make the mods go crazy
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09-22-2005, 02:02 PM
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you dont think cleaning the body and interior should be put in ''body and interior''?
there realy isnt a point to them being seperate.
you dont think cleaning the body and interior should be put in ''body and interior''?
there realy isnt a point to them being seperate.
compared to (appearance and detail) should i polish my intake, should i keep my gta badges
they are different but overlap a bit
and appearance and detail covers the whole car not just body and interior
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what about the car audio forum?
that has nothing to do with thirdgen anything.
its all about aftermarket stereos and speakers.
granted people like music ,but the base motor of the car doesnt have any place,but aftermarket stereos do?
thats just silly.
and we could combine the body and interior and detailing into,
body,interior and detailing.that way all bases are covered.
that has nothing to do with thirdgen anything.
its all about aftermarket stereos and speakers.
granted people like music ,but the base motor of the car doesnt have any place,but aftermarket stereos do?
thats just silly.
and we could combine the body and interior and detailing into,
body,interior and detailing.that way all bases are covered.
09-24-2005, 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by wellington
what about the car audio forum?
that has nothing to do with thirdgen anything.
its all about aftermarket stereos and speakers.
granted people like music ,but the base motor of the car doesnt have any place,but aftermarket stereos do?
thats just silly.
and we could combine the body and interior and detailing into,
body,interior and detailing.that way all bases are covered.
what about the car audio forum?
that has nothing to do with thirdgen anything.
its all about aftermarket stereos and speakers.
granted people like music ,but the base motor of the car doesnt have any place,but aftermarket stereos do?
thats just silly.
and we could combine the body and interior and detailing into,
body,interior and detailing.that way all bases are covered.
There is room for another board without deleting any, if Dirk wants it.
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The haynes manual has a lot on the iron dukes.Wont that help you dukers
Side note; In that section theres a engine removal and installation chapter.I thought to myself"Why did they even bother typing out the iron duke installation process" lol.Has anyone ever took out an iron duke and put one back in. I thought once its takin out the job is done
Side note; In that section theres a engine removal and installation chapter.I thought to myself"Why did they even bother typing out the iron duke installation process" lol.Has anyone ever took out an iron duke and put one back in.
I thought once its takin out the job is done
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im taking mine out and putting an a duke stroker.
should be 150hp and 200tq when im done.
not a screamer,but anything is better then 80hp.
should be 150hp and 200tq when im done.
not a screamer,but anything is better then 80hp.
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well if there is room,why not just make an iron duke/4cyl board?
wouldnt it take 5 minutes?
well if there is room,why not just make an iron duke/4cyl board?
wouldnt it take 5 minutes?
What kinds of questions do you think there would be in the Duke board that could not be handled in the general board?
Why does my motor suck? Why is my car rotted? Why can't I find any parts in the junkyard? Why does Autozone laugh when I tell them my engine?
And if for no other reason, We'd have to find a moderator to cover the board. And it's a catch 22. He/She would have to own an iron duke, AND have enough common sense to moderate a board here. Which is really impossible since he/she didn't have enough common sense to get rid of the Iron duke in the first place.
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Originally posted by wellington
im taking mine out and putting an a duke stroker.
im taking mine out and putting an a duke stroker.
09-26-2005, 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by 82knightrider
Side note; In that section theres a engine removal and installation chapter.I thought to myself"Why did they even bother typing out the iron duke installation process" lol.Has anyone ever took out an iron duke and put one back in. I thought once its takin out the job is done
Side note; In that section theres a engine removal and installation chapter.I thought to myself"Why did they even bother typing out the iron duke installation process" lol.Has anyone ever took out an iron duke and put one back in.
I thought once its takin out the job is done Last edited by JT; 09-26-2005 at 05:37 PM.
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Originally posted by 82knightrider
The haynes manual has a lot on the iron dukes.Wont that help you dukers
Side note; In that section theres a engine removal and installation chapter.I thought to myself"Why did they even bother typing out the iron duke installation process" lol.Has anyone ever took out an iron duke and put one back in. I thought once its takin out the job is done
The haynes manual has a lot on the iron dukes.Wont that help you dukers
Side note; In that section theres a engine removal and installation chapter.I thought to myself"Why did they even bother typing out the iron duke installation process" lol.Has anyone ever took out an iron duke and put one back in.
I thought once its takin out the job is done
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i can imagine there are many 350 people who would feel the same way about the 305s that you have.
i can imagine there are many 350 people who would feel the same way about the 305s that you have.
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Originally posted by jandl22
FYI- I am on the second engine on my Camaro and yes, I replaced it with another Duke.
FYI- I am on the second engine on my Camaro and yes, I replaced it with another Duke.
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Originally posted by anesthes
Because we're trying to promote doing the right thing.
What kinds of questions do you think there would be in the Duke board that could not be handled in the general board?
Why does my motor suck? Why is my car rotted? Why can't I find any parts in the junkyard? Why does Autozone laugh when I tell them my engine?
parts are plentiful,its info thats hard to come by.
And if for no other reason, We'd have to find a moderator to cover the board. And it's a catch 22. He/She would have to own an iron duke, AND have enough common sense to moderate a board here. Which is really impossible since he/she didn't have enough common sense to get rid of the Iron duke in the first place.
well the moderater doesnt have to own a duke,they just have to recognize its right to exsist.
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Because we're trying to promote doing the right thing.
What kinds of questions do you think there would be in the Duke board that could not be handled in the general board?
Why does my motor suck? Why is my car rotted? Why can't I find any parts in the junkyard? Why does Autozone laugh when I tell them my engine?
parts are plentiful,its info thats hard to come by.
And if for no other reason, We'd have to find a moderator to cover the board. And it's a catch 22. He/She would have to own an iron duke, AND have enough common sense to moderate a board here. Which is really impossible since he/she didn't have enough common sense to get rid of the Iron duke in the first place.
well the moderater doesnt have to own a duke,they just have to recognize its right to exsist.
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stop telling us what motor YOU would get if was YOURS.
its OUR cars and WE WANT a DUKE!!!!
you can go buy any stupid v8 you want ,but seriously,its getting old talking to fourbanger bigots like you.
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its getting old talking to fourbanger bigots like you.
its getting old talking to fourbanger bigots like you.
This site is to share technical information on how to make things BETTER. So i'll chime in whenever I feel like it, ok?
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Originally posted by anesthes
Because we're trying to promote doing the right thing.
What kinds of questions do you think there would be in the Duke board that could not be handled in the general board?
Why does my motor suck? Why is my car rotted? Why can't I find any parts in the junkyard? Why does Autozone laugh when I tell them my engine?
And if for no other reason, We'd have to find a moderator to cover the board. And it's a catch 22. He/She would have to own an iron duke, AND have enough common sense to moderate a board here. Which is really impossible since he/she didn't have enough common sense to get rid of the Iron duke in the first place.
-- Joe
Because we're trying to promote doing the right thing.
What kinds of questions do you think there would be in the Duke board that could not be handled in the general board?
Why does my motor suck? Why is my car rotted? Why can't I find any parts in the junkyard? Why does Autozone laugh when I tell them my engine?
And if for no other reason, We'd have to find a moderator to cover the board. And it's a catch 22. He/She would have to own an iron duke, AND have enough common sense to moderate a board here. Which is really impossible since he/she didn't have enough common sense to get rid of the Iron duke in the first place.
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I know that you are an administrator and or moderator, but when you people who are put in charge of the third gen board don't have enough common sense or knowledge to accept and that the Duke was the stock engine in Camaro's and Firebirds then it seems as though Thirdgen.org might need a few replacements. Now to be bashed by every other V8 owner is commonplace, to get it from the top seems to be both inconsiderate and unknowledgeable of you and yours who continue to contribute to the bashing. You stated "He/She would have to own an iron duke, AND have enough common sense to moderate a board here. Which is really impossible since he/she didn’t have enough common sense to get rid of the Iron duke in the first place?" That is wrong of you to even begin to state that because you are supposed to be here to aid, assist, and when the times comes "MODERATE, NOT OPPIONATE" Please show us Duke Owners the RESPECT we demand and get knowledgeable about the site, and the vehicles you are moderating.
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A curious thing about respect is that you can't demand it, you can only give it, earn it or lose it. I'll leave alone the question of whether or not any individuals on either sides of the debate have conducted themselves in manners worthy of respect, and think only of the Iron Duke itself.
What exactly is it that you want your Iron Duke to be respected for? Most people here recognize that the Iron Duke was the base engine for a very few years. Most people here would also like to forget the fact, for reasons of their own. You are as unlikely to convince any of them that the Iron Duke is worthy of respect in any way as they are unlikely to convince you that you should get rid of it.
So what purpose will an Iron Duke forum serve that isn't already satisfied by the existing forums?
While the L4 itself may or may not be worthy of respect per se, it is worthy of an amount of consideration, since it was indeed an available, although not outstandingly popular, engine option, and there are a few members who still have this engine in their cars.
In the past few days we've already had a number of examples how threads regarding the Iron Duke can deteriorate, due in part but not entirety to the unfortunate behavior of some of the same proponents of the creation of a dedicated forum.
We've also seen examples of how valid technical questions go unanswered on the current forums for the simple reason that the L4 was an unpopular option that few people have sufficient experience with to contribute meaningfully.
On these bases I don't see how the creation of a dedicated Iron Duke forum will serve any purpose that can't be satisfied by any of the existing forums, other than the pacification of misplaced senses of entitlement. Merely creating a dedicated forum will not spontaneously bring forth a miraculous new fount of knowledge.
What exactly is it that you want your Iron Duke to be respected for? Most people here recognize that the Iron Duke was the base engine for a very few years. Most people here would also like to forget the fact, for reasons of their own. You are as unlikely to convince any of them that the Iron Duke is worthy of respect in any way as they are unlikely to convince you that you should get rid of it.
So what purpose will an Iron Duke forum serve that isn't already satisfied by the existing forums?
While the L4 itself may or may not be worthy of respect per se, it is worthy of an amount of consideration, since it was indeed an available, although not outstandingly popular, engine option, and there are a few members who still have this engine in their cars.
In the past few days we've already had a number of examples how threads regarding the Iron Duke can deteriorate, due in part but not entirety to the unfortunate behavior of some of the same proponents of the creation of a dedicated forum.
We've also seen examples of how valid technical questions go unanswered on the current forums for the simple reason that the L4 was an unpopular option that few people have sufficient experience with to contribute meaningfully.
On these bases I don't see how the creation of a dedicated Iron Duke forum will serve any purpose that can't be satisfied by any of the existing forums, other than the pacification of misplaced senses of entitlement. Merely creating a dedicated forum will not spontaneously bring forth a miraculous new fount of knowledge.
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Originally posted by jandl22
Joe,
I know that you are an administrator and or moderator, but when you people who are put in charge of the third gen board don't have enough common sense or knowledge to accept and that the Duke was the stock engine in Camaro's and Firebirds then it seems as though Thirdgen.org might need a few replacements. Now to be bashed by every other V8 owner is commonplace, to get it from the top seems to be both inconsiderate and unknowledgeable of you and yours who continue to contribute to the bashing. You stated "He/She would have to own an iron duke, AND have enough common sense to moderate a board here. Which is really impossible since he/she didn’t have enough common sense to get rid of the Iron duke in the first place?" That is wrong of you to even begin to state that because you are supposed to be here to aid, assist, and when the times comes "MODERATE, NOT OPPIONATE" Please show us Duke Owners the RESPECT we demand and get knowledgeable about the site, and the vehicles you are moderating.
Joe,
I know that you are an administrator and or moderator, but when you people who are put in charge of the third gen board don't have enough common sense or knowledge to accept and that the Duke was the stock engine in Camaro's and Firebirds then it seems as though Thirdgen.org might need a few replacements. Now to be bashed by every other V8 owner is commonplace, to get it from the top seems to be both inconsiderate and unknowledgeable of you and yours who continue to contribute to the bashing. You stated "He/She would have to own an iron duke, AND have enough common sense to moderate a board here. Which is really impossible since he/she didn’t have enough common sense to get rid of the Iron duke in the first place?" That is wrong of you to even begin to state that because you are supposed to be here to aid, assist, and when the times comes "MODERATE, NOT OPPIONATE" Please show us Duke Owners the RESPECT we demand and get knowledgeable about the site, and the vehicles you are moderating.
Here is how it works.
1) You folks asked for a Duke board.
2) The mods and Admin said No, not enough demand
3) It was suggested that you use the general engine board.
4) Story is over.
This site is not a democracy. A lot of us have been here even longer than the Admin has, but we still don't get to do things "our way" We do it TGO's way.
Am I having a little fun with this? Sure. I think the way Wellington posted the poll, and after 3 votes posted "It's a mandate" is just funny. I laughed for a little while. Obviously he just started taking a political class in high school. It's cool though.
Now back to my "opinions vs moderation"
I "moderate" the alternative EFI board. Meaning, if someone posts about something thats not alternative port EFI, I move the thread to the appropriate board. My posters are all senior members, who have been contributing for years and years.
MY "opinion" will be shared anywhere I see it fit. It's mine, and it's what I feel is right. If you think I'm wrong, by all means do it your way.
I spend a lot of time and money experimenting with things on these cars, and posting/sharing my results. I think most folks appreciate it, If you look back over the last 6 years of posts. But if you think I'm going to start taking orders from a couple of new guys who have been here for 3 months at the most, your sadly mistaken.
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no, we are sick of being told to buy a v8.
i used to use this board monthes ago,until very yahoo and retard kept flaming posts ,including the moderaters?!
and ,sadley,they pointless flaming and insults continue.
how many duke owners have been drivin away by four banger bigots?
why do you think it is ok for moderaters to dump on an engine because they dont like it?
if you cant be objective you have no business being a moderater.
so far i have not had on question about my engine answered
in any forum on here without every other post being about how i need a v8,or how i cant work on a car unless it has a v8.
my car never had a v8,and it never will.
the v6 guys have their own forum, the v8 guys have every other engine forum,why cant we have a forum?
whether you like the duke or not is beside the point,the duke was the first motor availble in the third gen fbody.
if i went to all the v8 threads and talked as much **** as i put up with i would be banned ,but for some reason you think its ok for people to harrass the duke owners.
if i want a v8 ill go to the swap boards and ask,but when i have legitimate questions about MY engine,all i get are insults and stupididty about how i need a v8.
i dont want respect,i want to not be harrassed and insulted everytime i mention my motor.and since i cant beat the **** out of the **** talkers this is my only course of action.
im willing to bet if i start flaming people to buy a duke instead of a v8 i would be banned,how about doing YOUR JOB,and banning people who can do nothing but talk **** about some damn v8 swap.
its bull**** and you know it,and your pissing US off.
i used to use this board monthes ago,until very yahoo and retard kept flaming posts ,including the moderaters?!
and ,sadley,they pointless flaming and insults continue.
how many duke owners have been drivin away by four banger bigots?
why do you think it is ok for moderaters to dump on an engine because they dont like it?
if you cant be objective you have no business being a moderater.
so far i have not had on question about my engine answered
in any forum on here without every other post being about how i need a v8,or how i cant work on a car unless it has a v8.
my car never had a v8,and it never will.
the v6 guys have their own forum, the v8 guys have every other engine forum,why cant we have a forum?
whether you like the duke or not is beside the point,the duke was the first motor availble in the third gen fbody.
if i went to all the v8 threads and talked as much **** as i put up with i would be banned ,but for some reason you think its ok for people to harrass the duke owners.
if i want a v8 ill go to the swap boards and ask,but when i have legitimate questions about MY engine,all i get are insults and stupididty about how i need a v8.
i dont want respect,i want to not be harrassed and insulted everytime i mention my motor.and since i cant beat the **** out of the **** talkers this is my only course of action.
im willing to bet if i start flaming people to buy a duke instead of a v8 i would be banned,how about doing YOUR JOB,and banning people who can do nothing but talk **** about some damn v8 swap.
its bull**** and you know it,and your pissing US off.
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Originally posted by wellington
no, we are sick of being told to buy a v8.
i used to use this board monthes ago,until very yahoo and retard kept flaming posts ,including the moderaters?!
and ,sadley,they pointless flaming and insults continue.
how many duke owners have been drivin away by four banger bigots?
why do you think it is ok for moderaters to dump on an engine because they dont like it?
if you cant be objective you have no business being a moderater.
so far i have not had on question about my engine answered
in any forum on here without every other post being about how i need a v8,or how i cant work on a car unless it has a v8.
my car never had a v8,and it never will.
the v6 guys have their own forum, the v8 guys have every other engine forum,why cant we have a forum?
whether you like the duke or not is beside the point,the duke was the first motor availble in the third gen fbody.
if i went to all the v8 threads and talked as much **** as i put up with i would be banned ,but for some reason you think its ok for people to harrass the duke owners.
if i want a v8 ill go to the swap boards and ask,but when i have legitimate questions about MY engine,all i get are insults and stupididty about how i need a v8.
i dont want respect,i want to not be harrassed and insulted everytime i mention my motor.and since i cant beat the **** out of the **** talkers this is my only course of action.
im willing to bet if i start flaming people to buy a duke instead of a v8 i would be banned,how about doing YOUR JOB,and banning people who can do nothing but talk **** about some damn v8 swap.
its bull**** and you know it,and your pissing US off.
no, we are sick of being told to buy a v8.
i used to use this board monthes ago,until very yahoo and retard kept flaming posts ,including the moderaters?!
and ,sadley,they pointless flaming and insults continue.
how many duke owners have been drivin away by four banger bigots?
why do you think it is ok for moderaters to dump on an engine because they dont like it?
if you cant be objective you have no business being a moderater.
so far i have not had on question about my engine answered
in any forum on here without every other post being about how i need a v8,or how i cant work on a car unless it has a v8.
my car never had a v8,and it never will.
the v6 guys have their own forum, the v8 guys have every other engine forum,why cant we have a forum?
whether you like the duke or not is beside the point,the duke was the first motor availble in the third gen fbody.
if i went to all the v8 threads and talked as much **** as i put up with i would be banned ,but for some reason you think its ok for people to harrass the duke owners.
if i want a v8 ill go to the swap boards and ask,but when i have legitimate questions about MY engine,all i get are insults and stupididty about how i need a v8.
i dont want respect,i want to not be harrassed and insulted everytime i mention my motor.and since i cant beat the **** out of the **** talkers this is my only course of action.
im willing to bet if i start flaming people to buy a duke instead of a v8 i would be banned,how about doing YOUR JOB,and banning people who can do nothing but talk **** about some damn v8 swap.
its bull**** and you know it,and your pissing US off.
09-28-2005, 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by wellington
i dont want respect,i want to not be harrassed and insulted everytime i mention my motor.and since i cant beat the **** out of the **** talkers this is my only course of action.
im willing to bet if i start flaming people to buy a duke instead of a v8 i would be banned,how about doing YOUR JOB,and banning people who can do nothing but talk **** about some damn v8 swap.
its bull**** and you know it,and your pissing US off.
i dont want respect,i want to not be harrassed and insulted everytime i mention my motor.and since i cant beat the **** out of the **** talkers this is my only course of action.
im willing to bet if i start flaming people to buy a duke instead of a v8 i would be banned,how about doing YOUR JOB,and banning people who can do nothing but talk **** about some damn v8 swap.
its bull**** and you know it,and your pissing US off.
If you want to make an all Iron Duke message board feel free, domain names are very cheap now. Perhaps you'd feel more at home on a Fiero board? These cars barely move with a V4 so keeping that V4 is pointless and foolish. There is very little technical data that applies specifically to the Duke and there are around 4 people on the ENTIRE board who are silly enough to want to keep that piece of GM folly. One thread would be far more than enough space to dedicate to that engine.
All you are doing is trying to stir up trouble. You're going to end up saying something to get yourself banned then say it's discrimination or some garbage. If you don't like it the results of your little campaign that was joined by one whole other person then tough luck.
09-28-2005, 12:58 PM
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Both of you?
If you want to make an all Iron Duke message board feel free, domain names are very cheap now. Perhaps you'd feel more at home on a Fiero board? These cars barely move with a V4 so keeping that V4 is pointless and foolish. There is very little technical data that applies specifically to the Duke and there are around 4 people on the ENTIRE board who are silly enough to want to keep that piece of GM folly. One thread would be far more than enough space to dedicate to that engine.
All you are doing is trying to stir up trouble. You're going to end up saying something to get yourself banned then say it's discrimination or some garbage. If you don't like it the results of your little campaign that was joined by one whole other person then tough luck.
Both of you?
If you want to make an all Iron Duke message board feel free, domain names are very cheap now. Perhaps you'd feel more at home on a Fiero board? These cars barely move with a V4 so keeping that V4 is pointless and foolish. There is very little technical data that applies specifically to the Duke and there are around 4 people on the ENTIRE board who are silly enough to want to keep that piece of GM folly. One thread would be far more than enough space to dedicate to that engine.
All you are doing is trying to stir up trouble. You're going to end up saying something to get yourself banned then say it's discrimination or some garbage. If you don't like it the results of your little campaign that was joined by one whole other person then tough luck.
In any event, i'm sure he will end up getting himself banned for something sooner or later. And since He's never getting a v8 I don't have to worry about him postin g on my board. And for the same reason, you shouldn't worry about him posting on yours. Unless of course he's gonna start racing against riding lawnmowers, and wants to post about his defeats on your board.
I'm done here. I've given advice. You Iron duke folks don't want to take it. You'd rather act like a bunch of children than play by the rules. Fine. But I wouldn't recommend continuing this behavior on the other boards.
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09-28-2005, 02:09 PM
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your the ones acting like spoiled children.
your v8 worship and duke bigotry is childish at best.
why not just delete the v6 boards as well?
after all,they barely get the car going.
but no,the only engine on here that you claim doesnt deserve a place is the duke.
and why not just have one thread for the 350?
its a common motor with common problems and parts,one thread should be enough.
and why have an entire forum devoted to the v6?
its a piece of crap that should be swapped for a v8,right?
so why does it have its own forum?
half a thread should be enough for the v6.
how about you just go one step further and delete posts
that are about parts you dont like?
after all, if its not good enough for you,why would anyone want it?
heres a news flash,you dont get to decide who has what engine in their car.
the least you can do is add the duke to the v6 boards,but no,you enjoy talking **** because we have a 4 cylinder instead of a v8.
your v8 worship and duke bigotry is childish at best.
why not just delete the v6 boards as well?
after all,they barely get the car going.
but no,the only engine on here that you claim doesnt deserve a place is the duke.
and why not just have one thread for the 350?
its a common motor with common problems and parts,one thread should be enough.
and why have an entire forum devoted to the v6?
its a piece of crap that should be swapped for a v8,right?
so why does it have its own forum?
half a thread should be enough for the v6.
how about you just go one step further and delete posts
that are about parts you dont like?
after all, if its not good enough for you,why would anyone want it?
heres a news flash,you dont get to decide who has what engine in their car.
the least you can do is add the duke to the v6 boards,but no,you enjoy talking **** because we have a 4 cylinder instead of a v8.
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Lets try an analogy:
How should the story end?
Once upon a time there was a city populated by friendly people of diverse backgrounds. Despite the usual neighborhood squabbles, things were pretty peaceful on the whole.
One day, a new family of Slobovian immigrants moved to town. This wasn't terribly unusual, since there were already a few other Slobovians living quiet lives throughout the town. There were also a few other people of Slobovian decent who now spoke other languages.
The new Slobovians began telling everybody that they would never give up their heritage and language, when nobody had really asked them to and nobody cared about what they did anyway. They began loudly demanding that the town should build them a new Slobovian Library to serve them the great works of Slobovian literature, saying that it was only fair since the rest of the town already had a library.
They suggested a referendum be held to determine if the town should expend its resources on the project, but only Slobovians should be allowed to vote since the library project concerned only Slobovians, despite the fact that the whole town would have to cover the costs. Non-Slobovians could vote too though as long as they said yes.
The city council listened to the pleas of the Slobovians, and considered them seriously. They were concerned that after the library was built, it would be rarely used by only a handful of townspeople, and that it would become a target for anti-Slobovian graffiti which would have to be constantly scrubbed away.
They also noted that in all recorded history there had only been two books written in the Slobovian language. Both of them were already in the public library, but they'd never been read before anyway.
The city council told the Slobovians that they couldn't have their own library.
The Slobovians were irate when they heard the decision of the city council and began protesting disruptively in front of city hall, accusing the townspeople of racism and anti-Slobovian bigotry.
One day, a new family of Slobovian immigrants moved to town. This wasn't terribly unusual, since there were already a few other Slobovians living quiet lives throughout the town. There were also a few other people of Slobovian decent who now spoke other languages.
The new Slobovians began telling everybody that they would never give up their heritage and language, when nobody had really asked them to and nobody cared about what they did anyway. They began loudly demanding that the town should build them a new Slobovian Library to serve them the great works of Slobovian literature, saying that it was only fair since the rest of the town already had a library.
They suggested a referendum be held to determine if the town should expend its resources on the project, but only Slobovians should be allowed to vote since the library project concerned only Slobovians, despite the fact that the whole town would have to cover the costs. Non-Slobovians could vote too though as long as they said yes.
The city council listened to the pleas of the Slobovians, and considered them seriously. They were concerned that after the library was built, it would be rarely used by only a handful of townspeople, and that it would become a target for anti-Slobovian graffiti which would have to be constantly scrubbed away.
They also noted that in all recorded history there had only been two books written in the Slobovian language. Both of them were already in the public library, but they'd never been read before anyway.
The city council told the Slobovians that they couldn't have their own library.
The Slobovians were irate when they heard the decision of the city council and began protesting disruptively in front of city hall, accusing the townspeople of racism and anti-Slobovian bigotry.
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And the minority should rule the majority
Why don't we change Monday Night Football to Monday Night Shuffle board. There are 2000 people that care about shuffleboard, so they should have a spot on Monday Night. The Iron Duke was produced in Camaro's from 82 to 85. Not a huge production run for an already grossly upopular engine. The V6 was even available in the 4th gens. There are enough of them out there to have a board. Oh and a lot of the V6 people want to go to a V8. The others don't get their panies in a wad when someone suggests swapping a v8 instead of completely fixing the v6. Why? because it isn't worth fixing the v6 or the Iron Duke. You spend more money for less, a lot less output.
Not to mention, you and other people(some banned) that was adament about modifying an Iron Duke were only interested in hearing what you wanted to hear (1 reason why an Iron Duke forum would be bad). Not what was sensible and good advice......and I'm sick of that!
Why don't we change Monday Night Football to Monday Night Shuffle board. There are 2000 people that care about shuffleboard, so they should have a spot on Monday Night. The Iron Duke was produced in Camaro's from 82 to 85. Not a huge production run for an already grossly upopular engine. The V6 was even available in the 4th gens. There are enough of them out there to have a board. Oh and a lot of the V6 people want to go to a V8. The others don't get their panies in a wad when someone suggests swapping a v8 instead of completely fixing the v6. Why? because it isn't worth fixing the v6 or the Iron Duke. You spend more money for less, a lot less output.
Not to mention, you and other people(some banned) that was adament about modifying an Iron Duke were only interested in hearing what you wanted to hear (1 reason why an Iron Duke forum would be bad). Not what was sensible and good advice......and I'm sick of that!
09-29-2005, 12:40 AM
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We're gonna put a stop to this arguing now, as it's gone on long enough.
First, no one should be bashing anything, regardless of board status. Second, when people say to go from an L4/V6 to a V8 in a situtation of needing a new engine, they're usually just trying to tell you the best thing to do that makes the most sense. Next, the L4 was not the "original" engine in these cars. Third Gens were designed from the top models down, not the reverse. The L4 was just thrown in there for the people that couldn't get a higher model and for those who wanted the most MPG at a time when economy was a priority, yet they were unpopular and didn't last long. Although, most don't know that Pontiac actually got that engine to run 13's with top speeds of 150MPH in some highly modified test cars LOL. But getting back to the subject, look at the poll for example. As said before, there simply is not enough people or interest in a board for this engine and it can be discussed on many of our current boards. So, at this time, TGO is not considering it, not saying it'll never happen but it doesn't look like it will be anytime soon.
First, no one should be bashing anything, regardless of board status. Second, when people say to go from an L4/V6 to a V8 in a situtation of needing a new engine, they're usually just trying to tell you the best thing to do that makes the most sense. Next, the L4 was not the "original" engine in these cars. Third Gens were designed from the top models down, not the reverse. The L4 was just thrown in there for the people that couldn't get a higher model and for those who wanted the most MPG at a time when economy was a priority, yet they were unpopular and didn't last long. Although, most don't know that Pontiac actually got that engine to run 13's with top speeds of 150MPH in some highly modified test cars LOL. But getting back to the subject, look at the poll for example. As said before, there simply is not enough people or interest in a board for this engine and it can be discussed on many of our current boards. So, at this time, TGO is not considering it, not saying it'll never happen but it doesn't look like it will be anytime soon.
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how about adding the duke to the v6 boards?
why is that not an option?
this site is supposed to HELP people with thirdgen fbodys,not keep them down because someone doesnt like the motor.
why is that not an option?
this site is supposed to HELP people with thirdgen fbodys,not keep them down because someone doesnt like the motor.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by wellington
[B]how about adding the duke to the v6 boards?
why is that not an option?
because the dukes not a v6
[B]how about adding the duke to the v6 boards?
why is that not an option?
because the dukes not a v6
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yes but that could be changed to ''base motors, including the l4 and v6'',or ''not v8s''.
that way everyone is happy.
that way everyone is happy.
10-04-2005, 02:19 PM
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yes but that could be changed to ''base motors, including the l4 and v6'',or ''not v8s''.
that way everyone is happy.
yes but that could be changed to ''base motors, including the l4 and v6'',or ''not v8s''.
that way everyone is happy.
Let's just drop it. If you must, you can PM or email the admins every once in a while to keep it in their heads. Why keep posting and opening new threads/polls?
I will ask for a mod to be assigned this board.
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there seems to be two motor groups in the fbody world, v8s and everybody else.
why is 5 seconds and a title change that big a deal to you?
and the last time i checked ,there wasnt a limit on how many posts i could make.i have only made 3 and i havent broken any rules.
i am neither insulting nor threatning people,i am making suggestions to try and help people on here.
why is that a bad thing again?
why is 5 seconds and a title change that big a deal to you?
and the last time i checked ,there wasnt a limit on how many posts i could make.i have only made 3 and i havent broken any rules.
i am neither insulting nor threatning people,i am making suggestions to try and help people on here.
why is that a bad thing again?
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