Momar

I was told there was but I have never heard of anything like this. I kind of doubt it myself. What are they going to do pull you over and whip a dyno out of the trunk. Its like hey guys look, I just got a ticket for 1200 hp. Anyway, I just wondered because I had never heard of anything like this. I live in Illinois by the way.

Ben

JoelOl75

I'm pretty sure you are right since I heard that in Texas there is no limit (I'm assuming in others there is....)

CEDOE

I'd like 1 of those 1200HP tickets!!!!!LOL

MikeS

If there is, Monty is getting close! Check out the dyno numbers in his thread...

Redliner

495
BUT they don't say jack about torque

rx7speed

I think japan has a limit to where a car can only make 280hp MAX!!!

but then again that is stock


in idaho I heard the limit is 500hp


but you know I don't really understand it


take that 500hp and put it in a 73 caddy and it might move fast but then again think of that 500hp in one of the orig mini's

who do you think would be faster ????

if they are goig to put a limit I think a hp/lb would be better then max hp

either way though a limit like that sux gnats *** dude

Rob P

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I don't believe the Federal Government has any standard for max HP and they (the fed gov) are the ones who matter to the auto manufacters. However I think the automakers have some unwritten rules of how far they will go, looking at the safety and liability issues. They leave the insanity to the aftermarket tuners.
And on the Japan issue, I'm pretty sure the Skyline GT makes a lot more than 280hp in stock trim. Those cars were killer when I was in Japan in 82 thru 84. The new ones are awesome and would really help the ricers if ever imported in numbers to the U.S. They were about the only car that could beat my 77 Celica GTV, 2000 DOHC, twin carbs, header, 5spd. The car used to eat in-line 6 equipped Fairlady Z's. (240/260Zs)

Sitting Bull

You can get the Toyota Skyline with a 1000 hp engine, straight from the factory. Street ready.

I wouldn't chant "rice" around one of those ... they are a genuine super car :hail: :hail: :hail:

Patrick007

Skyline is a Nissan there killer.... n I highly doubt anything stock will have anything close to 1000 HP... but prove me wrong if you can.

Patrick DeGrosse Jr.

Sitting Bull

Sure. It was on Dream Car Garage this season, on Speed Channel. Tom Hnatiw (pronounced Natchew) test drove one. It comes in three different flavours, with the top two boasting 600 hp and 1000 hp respectively. Blew me away too!

These Skylines remind me of a Mustang in appearance.

rx7speed

as for the skyline not having more then 280hp

I agree

that car is HEAVY

but from what I understand 280 is max hp stock from the factory there in japan


but who's to say that nissan doesn't underate there hp figures so they can make the car

bluegrassz

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I know that boats have regulations. Depending on the length of the boat as to what size motor you can have on it.

Synapsis

They do. The official hp rating of a lot of high-powered cars in Japan is exactly 276 horsepower. Who's going to call them on it?

"Oh, so sowwy, we need to calibrate the dyno."

rx7speed

and boy do I wish they would bring more of there cars over here even with there whole "276hp" and since that 276hp can turn a car that tips the scales at 3400-3800 in what the low 13's high 12's (the skyline that is) least I am guessing that is the number it pulls

I wouldn't mind having one

Hg

Ok, I'm pretty sure the skyline doesn't come FACTORY making 1000hp, but I never saw that episode. And I don't think japan has a limit either, they rate their cars around that much hp for insurance reasons. The Evolutions say around 270 hp I think, but it's realy making around 330-350.

SpeedCat86

Yeah, in Japan there was an 'agreement' between the automakers to limit the rated horsepower to 280. Note that I said 'rated' horsepower. That's why the US spec 300ZX TwinTurbo made 300hp, while the JDM spec car made 276. Guess what? There's no difference in the motors

Sitting Bull

Isn't that an oxymoron? "I'm sure it didn't but I never saw the evidence?"

I DID see the program and I can assure you that it IS offered with 600 and 1000 hp engines.

Hg

Jeezuz, I AM JUST SAYING that when i was looking into importing them last year, they weren't available with that kind of power.... jeez...

Sitting Bull

Well, according to Dream Car Garage you must order it from Japan to get the 600 and 1000 hp versions. Very expensive, too.

It is episode 204. Here's a pic of the car.

Sitting Bull

And here is big Tom talking about it.

"Do you need a car like this? Well, no. But do you want a car like this? Oh baby, more than anything else in the world!"

trans87

Yea they do make a 1000 hp Skyline from the factory it is the Skyline Veilside R34.

@ZZKKER

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The one in the picture is an R33. Notice that the steering wheel is on the wrong side. It is either a fake or has been modified. The skyline is a japan only car right now. The vielside is not sold by the factory but by vieldside its self. It is just an option available at dealers.

Sitting Bull

Well, the Dream Car Garage guys did all their testing of it at Phoenix International Raceway (I believe) last fall and then broadcast it this spring/summer. So there is at least ONE in the lower 48.

Episode 0204, as I said.

jeff85iroc

Here in australia at least in New South Wales We have a CI to weight ratio that you can't exeed.For example you can't even
put a 302 cleveland in any car weighing(around)less than 2600lbs.There is a formula but i can't remember it at this time.
I think this law is too extreme.
P.S off the subject but it is even ilegal to run nitrous here.


Jeff

Synapsis

It's illegal to run Nitrous on the street in California too. The guy I bought my Iroc from has a video of his C4 Vette being put on a trailer by the California Highway Patrol for having nitrous.

Is it legal where I live? I dunno. But I'll be mounting the bottle in the spare tire area anyway.

rx7speed

are you sure that the veilside skyline is a factory mod?

I know veilside is a big tuner and makes a lot of body kits for cars including the one for the F&TF RX-7

it might be something like the callaway vette

taking a fact car and then retuning it then selling it out

Jokerman

Veilside is a tuner just like AMG is a tuner for mercedes. Nissan gives them lots of support but it is not a factory car. We do actually get the skyline sort of. Either lexus or Infinity (which ever is owned by nissan) has one of their mid cars that is based on the same platform, but unfortunatly doesn't get the awd or the 6cyl. As for the left hand drive that has to be a modification that was done state side because there are no, absolutly no, left hand drive skylines from the factory. They are sweet cars though. As for hp limits i have never heard of one in the US. Oh and for Nitros, missouri allows it to be in the car and functional but the valves have to stay closed. So aslong as you don't race a cop or purge in front of one you're fine.

@ZZKKER

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you are absolutly right, there is no factory left hand drive skyline gtr 's made, they are japan exlusive. but there are 4 door skylines that are rear wheel drive that are sold in japan and in some europiean countries. but we are suppose to get the next body style skyline (r35 or s35 depending on which manufacture gets it) as a nissan or infinity! nissan is doing the right thing, they are bringing back rear wheel drive, the next maxima is suppose to be based off of a rwd infinity, the 350 Z will be good comptition for the f-body and stang, and if the skyline is brought over it would be Z06 comptiton. the supra is going to be brougth back and it will have over 340 hp. there will be some fun to drive cars coming over in the next few years.

as for veilslide, they are not affiliated with the factory, the purchase, modify, and sell the cars through selected dealers. id rather have a GTR V-SPEC 2 tuned by NISMO than a veilslide though.
but i would really like to be able to drive my iroc
soon very soon:hail: :hail: :hail:
hehehe

anthony

davecamaro

That dream garage show is awsome
I watched it on speedy vision one time
hahah he was driving a ferrieri
almost creamed him self driving it also.

RadarRunner

Here in Oklahoma, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol has a Size & Weights Division, so I guess they can start carrying around portable dynos to check horsepower! LOL! :lala:

Cuno

1000 HP, that is all...?

This car would take out the Skyline, I would bet every thing on it.
0-60 in 1.2 sec and an est. top speed of 265 mph!

http://www.online-supercars.com/supe...pt_bruiser.htm

BG87z

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA...... I cant believe they would actully waste there money. wow that would be fun to drive though..

ronterry

I would not worry so much about the legality of it, but if your insurance company gets wind of excessive HP than it’s pay time.
I know the insurance companies are friends with manufactures, and your local law. Therefore, that being said I would look squarely at the big insurance companies as being the culprits behind such laws.


Ron

ChrisFormula355

I was just reading your sig................you DO realize a 350 and a 305 have the SAME EXACT crankshaft.........right??? I have a friend that thinks he is "stroking" his motor by installing a 350 crank in his 305, it took me and vadim hours to convince him otherwise!

ronterry

Same stroke, but the counter wieghts are a bit different.
So he's basicly going to pay for some extra balancing - for nothing
Lord help him if he doesn't get it balanced

Ron

bigman

Actually, his sig doesn't make much sense. It says 305 (bored 307). Well a .030 over-bored 307 gives ~310/311 ci. If you then stick in a 350 crank, then you have ~333 ci. So, starting from a 307, a 350 crank is a stroker, but it doesn't give 305 ci.

Dan - just trying to be helpful
(stirring the pot is helpful, right?? hehe)

bigman

Ummm, read it again. Maybe he means a 305 over-bored to 307 ci.

Dan - confused by opinionated

Momar

I dont know, it would have to be like a .015 overbore or something(just guessing) to make a 307 out of a 305. I also dont see the point in the 350 crank.

Ben

undead_undead

hah, i know a guy in the CHP who had a ex-CHP mustang running high 11's on the street with nitrous.

Synapsis

Was that before or after 2002? Back when this thread was active.

I was inspired to create an image in honor of this thread:

@ZZKKER

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lol back from the dead.
nice pic by the way.

sot21c

no, they should base horsepower limit by cubic inches because not a lot of people can afford lightweight parts.

sot21c

i heard the limit was 500 here in georgia. nos legal w/out hookup

sot21c

i heard the limit was 500. nos legal without going over hp limit, i heard

EvilCartman

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Took 3 replies to get all that out?

Sonix

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that would be the equivalent of an internet stutter I believe


hmm, Yea, I remember when I was young hearing about "the fastest street legal car", or "most legal HP"... Kinda like boasting about 0-60 times, and top speed as being the only thing important about how fast a car is.... ahh, back in the days of ignorance

rx7speed

and anyway half the "Street legal" high horsepower cars are not street legal.

one of the biggest is smog related stuff that isn't there. and even if you don't have inspections doesn't mean it is legal.

DLV555

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Pretty much. When I was in UTI my street performance instructor had what he called a "street legal" 9 second Mustang. 9 seconds it may have been, and it did have legitimate (though 2 years outdated) Texas tags, but it was FAR from actually being street legal.

Vader

That would make a Corvette Z07 and a handful of other cars illegal then? I have a real problemn with that kind of "data."

Correct. The insurance companies, however, are a different story. They cannot directly make any laws regarding it, but they can certainly set premium rates at a prohibitively high point to discourage it. Anyone remember 1971?

rx7speed

I don't quite believe the info and vader come on if you read the rest of my quote I was saying how stupid the whole idea would of been anyway :-p


and even if I did kinda believe it which in a way I might of being that was years and years ago I don't anymore


how old are you again?