My buddies ford thunderbird...
10-27-2002, 09:04 AM
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My buddies ford thunderbird...
Hi guys I am just trying to figure out if my buddy is full of BS or not. I have a lightly modded (see signature) 86 IROC-Z 305 tpi auto. now my buddy has a I think a 88? Ford Thunderbird with the v8 auto. He thinks he can take me and his car is basically stock. His car has some rust starting to form on it and the engine bay was less than specatular. But I have not seen him run so I just wanna be sure before I go and mouth off and race him
Please let me know if I should stop worrying or not, Thanks guys!!
Please let me know if I should stop worrying or not, Thanks guys!! 
10-27-2002, 09:11 AM
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Car: 88 IROC-Z/00 GTP/05 VUE Redline
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You've got nothing to worry about. I used to have a big fox body car. Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE 5.0 HO to be exact. And his car would have the 5.0 non HO V8 i believe. Mine had the mustang engine. I used to walk those thunderbirds and cougars rather easily in my lincoln. Nevermind your much lighter IROC.
10-27-2002, 09:20 AM
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86 Irocs Suck A$$
The 86 Iroc TPI 305's SUCK A$$.....they have peanut cams with non posi rear ends, did I mention they suck? well I don't know about the Thunderbird....but a guy around here has a Thunderbird that seems slower than sh*t, I think it would be a drivers race....AARON
10-27-2002, 10:16 AM
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Car: 88 IROC-Z/00 GTP/05 VUE Redline
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you've got nothing to worry about your car is atleast in the high 15's. His thuderturd is somewhere in the 16's. Do the math. Peanut cam or not you've got this one won.
10-27-2002, 10:20 AM
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Vicious 88 GTA, for your information I do have Posi and while the car may suck A@@, it has big plans in its future. Make sure youre information is correct before telling me I dont have posi.
10-27-2002, 10:45 AM
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Very Ture Very True...
next time i will do a lil research on em.....i hear the thunderbirds are in the 16's and your car is at the least even in crappy condition would run a high 15 to high mid 15...AARON
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10-27-2002, 04:25 PM
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i used to have a 85 thunderbird with the 5.0. it did have a new engine, less than 20,000mi, and a new AOD tranny, but i walked all over a mild 87 Monte Carlo with a 305 HO. it had after market edelbrock intake and carb, hedders with flowmasters, and ported heads. even though i never had my thunderbird on the track i am sure i t would of ran in the high fifteens. so dont take anything for granted, but with your mods also, it sounds like you will take him though.
10-27-2002, 05:39 PM
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I used to have an 87 Cougar XR7 with the lo-po 5.0. It was pretty slow. I actually raced a guy in a real ratty IROC once and kept up with him no problem, but you should have no problem walking all over that guy. They had 150 h.p. and 285 ft. lbs of torque,just off idle. There was absolutely no high rpm power. I doubt that Thunderbird could run in the 17's. Plus, the AOD tranny he's got in it, unless its been rebuilt, will probably puke before the race is over. That's why I USED TO HAVE a 87 Cougar XR7!
10-27-2002, 07:25 PM
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I used to have an 85 Cougar with a 302 2bbl from the 70s and a c4 tranny. 3.?? something rear. 14 inch tires. It could put on a heck of a show even with it's problems. I would have guessed to car to be in the mid to low 16s. In good shape. Probably had about 160-170 hp. So just do your math. I'd say you have him. His is mpfi right?
10-27-2002, 09:59 PM
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Re: 86 Irocs Suck A$$
Originally posted by Vicious 88 GTA
The 86 Iroc TPI 305's SUCK A$$.....they have peanut cams with non posi rear ends, did I mention they suck? well I don't know about the Thunderbird....but a guy around here has a Thunderbird that seems slower than sh*t, I think it would be a drivers race....AARON
The 86 Iroc TPI 305's SUCK A$$.....they have peanut cams with non posi rear ends, did I mention they suck? well I don't know about the Thunderbird....but a guy around here has a Thunderbird that seems slower than sh*t, I think it would be a drivers race....AARON
only the L98 86 Iroc came with posi's right? :sillylol:
10-28-2002, 09:01 AM
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Guys first off I would like to thank everyone for there knowledge and support, cuz I whooped his a@@ last night. Thanks for the heads up and the times!!!:hail: 
10-28-2002, 11:09 AM
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Good kill!!!
It is good to see some people asking "who will win?"...and actually going out, racing, and posting the results
The car looks very nice. Toss in a cam, swap rear ends (or gears), and it'll feel like a new car.
-Doug
It is good to see some people asking "who will win?"...and actually going out, racing, and posting the results
The car looks very nice. Toss in a cam, swap rear ends (or gears), and it'll feel like a new car.
-Doug
10-28-2002, 11:36 PM
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Thanks for the follow up, man. Much appreciated and very entertaining. Good kill.
10-29-2002, 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by Jyrx
Wow!! Whats going on!? MARK has not posted jet!!
Anyway nice kill!!!
Wow!! Whats going on!? MARK has not posted jet!!
Anyway nice kill!!!
i almost pissed myself laffin.
10-30-2002, 04:31 PM
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I can never figure out why those 301 Firebirds are always bashed. They look like they have a descent amount of power, especially with the turbo.
You do mean 301 Pontiac, don't you, kid camaro?
You do mean 301 Pontiac, don't you, kid camaro?
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Originally posted by Abel Kane
I can never figure out why those 301 Firebirds are always bashed. They look like they have a descent amount of power, especially with the turbo.
You do mean 301 Pontiac, don't you, kid camaro?
I can never figure out why those 301 Firebirds are always bashed. They look like they have a descent amount of power, especially with the turbo.
You do mean 301 Pontiac, don't you, kid camaro?
They were smog engines...had ****ty compression, a ***** for a cam, heads that couldn't flow more than a hole in a wet paper bag, their intake manifolds were smaller than a 12 yr old virgin and they had no aftermarket for that motor
Did I clarify that enough for you?
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