LowStyleII

Ok someone tell me what the hell is in the Dodge Neon SRT-4. It was a 2003 model possibly stock. I could'nt even beat it from a stop and the LO3 had the low end torque. I'm runnin a 92 RS with mods in the sig. Thinking about getting new computer chip and some other minor mods before I buy a new car. A 87 RS with a 383 Stroker with a 700R4 tranny. All it needs in a new stall convertor. Would that be able to take it??

freestylzz

Yah, that sounds right (oh boy here we go again with the SRT-4 stuff ).

posbird87

2.4L DOHC turbo

215hp/245ft/lbs - stock

Curb Weight 2588 lbs

http://www.autotrader.com/research/m...&ac_afflt=none

neat little cars... plus saying you beat someone in a neon is priceless

that 383 should be able to take it if its completely stock

Inwo

This better not turn into a flamewar about whether or not the SRT-4 is a mid to high 13 second car in stock form. I don't care if all the non-v8s ARE running uphill at your track. Consider this fair warning in advance.

I wouldn't go running any with your stock 350 or 305 because they're pretty quick and actually have traction in 04 with a quaife posi. Don't underestimate the power of a turbo.

FruityOne

I think I could deal with a SRT-4 as a grocery getter. If course, I'd have to mod my car to be faster than the grociery getter or I'd be embarrased.

Yeah, they are quick cars, and under rated. There are stock SRT-4's dynoing 215hp to the wheels! That makes for a bit more than they are rated at the flywheel.

MdFormula350

srt-4 are indeed quick no doubt.

Jgolden314

yes the srt-4 can move. My buddy has a 98 neon.......all motor that will run next to one. The best thing about his neon, is it is one sleeper let me tell you. Has anyone heard the BOV on these neons? Man do they sound sweet.

B4Ctom1

I heard in the media somewhere that the SRT-4 is the "quickest" mopar EVER sold. This really gets under the skin of viper and old Hemi owners I bet. A brand new untouched SRT-4 just beat one of my coworkers 88 vette. Does anyone know what they might have been referring to about the "quickest" and who it might have been?

Dennis91RS

nah dude its the quickest car for the price that mopar has ever made SRT4 is only like $17,500

i raced one at the track even with my 1.9 sixty foot i couldnt stay ahead of it it went a 14.07@98mph it was BONE stock

SOLID LIFTER

They will also be getting more power in '04, 230hp and 250ftlbs (not sure on the torque exactly I remember the hp as being 230, as quoted in Hot Rod and the torque has got to be around 250, I think.)
bye, bye LT1.

TTA 1387

Its probably something in particular that its the best.

When I had my 92 Spirit R/T, the magazine ads said it made the highest horsepower of any Mopar in history...per cubic inch or liter. It made a little over 100HP/liter and something like 1.7HP/cubic inch. They were technically right.

And it wasn't until the SRT came out that it knocked the Spirit R/T off as the fastest American made 4 door. Pretty amazing when you think they stopped making the R/T's in 92.

91gta_tpi

those srt's are really quick, i saw one at the local track in stock form runnin a 13.7 to 13.8 consistently, they are really killer, i think they run 0-60 in like 5.4 secs or something?not real for sure but i think that's right, i try to steer clear until i get a few mods done

ShiftyCapone

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They are deffinatly in LT1 territory and I read about races all the time between the two in other forums. Some LT1's lose by a nose and other LT1's are able to edge them out by a length or two by the top of fourth. So your thirdgen will need about a solid 260 to 270 to the wheels to beat one. From a dig a lots of thirdsgens will have the advatage; especially the L98. But once that turbo gets going, look out.

posbird87

turbo lag is just a curtious head start

ddn69

your racing a stock 80s car with a stock new car. What you expect. It isnt exactly a honda either. They aint the fastest things out there either. The New STI makes around a low 13 STOCK. Newer cars are just designed to go fast. 80s wasnt exactly the fastest years in the car world. Fastest Mopar? Whats the ETs on 60s - 70s I dont think these mopars were anything to mess with either....

Im guessing one of the fastest stock cars in the 80s was the the GNX(while they werent many made.some 568?) am I wrong? It had a what 13.x right...

nate

CobraKiller

The TTA had the GNX edged out some I believe for the fact that it had the same engine and a more friendly drag co-efficient amongst other things. I don't believe either of these cars are considered production vehicles however. Maybe the TTA but definitly not the GNX with only 547 produced.

jimmy_mac

Havn't been to the drag strip to get a time slip with my latest combo but have had a chance to do a quick run from about 25 to around 55 with a SRT-4. I have a 355 with a 218/224 @.050 .495/.503 inch lift comp cam, vortec heads with 1.60 exhaust valves and some grinding on the short side radius, performer rpm manifold, 770 cfm holley, hedman shorties, 2.25 inch duals and a WC T-5 and 3.42 open rear end.

That little run started with me spinning for a little bit as he started pulling then me shifting into third and immediately pulling on him. Enough to take my foot out it and back in to let him know I could keep pulling if needed.

So a 355 with a mild cam, good flowing heads, decent induction and exhaust should be able to handle one. But a L03 with bolt ons is very doubtful.

Inwo

The GNX was a straight up high performance car. GM decided to turn the Regal/Monte platform into a FWD POS in 88/89 so that's why the engineers behind the turbo Regal decided to make the fastest stock GM car ever made. There was a special on the Speed Channel about it, I highly recommend if they ever replay it that you guys catch it. They built those cars up like mad to not only be amazing in a straight line (ladder bars etc) but also to corner well, compared to the other GNs anyway.:hail: GNX

B4Ctom1

you are just gay for GN's arent you inwo?


thats cool Im kinda "bi" for them myself lol

jimmy_mac

I graduated high school in 89 so my impressionable early driving years where right during the GN domination. People just couldn't accept a 231 ci motor could beat them in their Irocs and 5.0 litre mustangs. Especially when you looked at the motor. It looked like it could fit on a lawn mower. That was also a time when a mid 14 second car from the factory was considered fast. The GNs wouldn't make as big of an impression now with all the ls1 camaros and soon to be GTOs out on the road. Not to mention the cobras and new 300 hp gts coming soon.

B4Ctom1

yes the good old days when 14 seconds ruled the production races and a 10 second street car was cause for a magazine cover.

freestylzz

Raced one 3 months ago. Left the **** senseless. L98 + hit 'em with the juice it was over. Didn't know what him him, hard! Left him senseless. It was goodnight for him. Gave him the goodnight salute .

406-IROC

With these being you're only mods;

1992 Camaro RS
Flowmasters 80's Series
K&N Filter Charger
Hurst Billet/Plus Shifter
Piped Catylatic Convertor
Open Element

I'm not surprised that the SRT beat you. Don't forget that you got practically 1000-lbs on the SRT. I'd like to see you get you're RS down to 3000-lbs, modify the transmission gearing (race gearing), and 373 cogs in the back.

I'm positive the results will be quite different!

Sure the Turbo on the SRT makes a world of a difference, but ask yourself this, if you swapped out the SRT's motor.... then threw in you're L03's in it's place, then how fast do you think the SRT will run then?

Anyone remember that swap from Hot Rod with the stock 500 Caddy engine going into that tiny Chevette? They had problems launching the Chevette, but despite that, they ran low 11's regardless.

SOLID LIFTER

Yeah that was pretty cool. I think the story was called The Bad Seed, the Caddy motor was pretty much stock except that they swapped on a set of older heads and that bumped the compression to 12:1. They also only had 2.73 gears in the rear.

FbodTrek

Heck if there was a way for me to shave even 500 lbs from my ride and keep it DOT thumbs-up......Those little cars are quick. Imagine a Neon with a 3.8 turbo....THAT would be interesting.:hail:

V6RSRick

http://www.danielwood.com/srt4.php

ator

Chrysler says that this neon is there second fastest car right now, with the Viper being the fastest (I know there are different Vipers)

ddn69

So what if the srt is "fast". Id much rather have an new LS1 Bird or GNX anyday. (both prolly in same price range?)around 40,000?..Correct me if Im horribly wrong?...anyway. Its not the times in my mind. Its the sound of the engine, the sound of the exhaust, and the knowledge your riding in true muscle. For example. If an LS1 powered Chevelle SS drove down the street which was equally as fast as per say this srt-4. Who do you think would get more attention? Of course the Chevelle. Well cuz its got a reputation, a sound, and a legacy. Whats the Srt-4 have. A time slip..Bah

My 2 cents.

Nate

fly89gta

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and this has what to do with the SRT being a quick car?lol

A LS1 can be had for around 20K....but since they don't make them anymore you're buying a used car...also try daily driving a GNX or Chevelle lol

The '04 SRT got a bump up to 230HP and a quaife posi like INWO said. The looks aren't my style but car is impressive ESPECIALLY for the price range it's in.

Dodge finally did something right while GM is still wacking their pud(sure the GTO and GXP Bonneville are sweet but at $35K+?, no thanks...)

viper3885

i kinda like the way the srt4 looks and they're pretty quick too. i raced one one time from a dig and took him by about 5-6 cars at 90. granted he wasn't the greatest driver but he did launch really good and i bogged mine. but i do like the srt4 it's a really quick car for the money.

fly89gta

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No debating that....$19-21K for a 13 second car...not too shabby in my book....

Plus with it being a turbo it's not hard to make it faster

turbos are gooooooooooooooooooooood

SOLID LIFTER

[tony the tiger] Turbos are Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat[/tony the tiger]

fly89gta

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hahahaha

CobraKiller

turbos rule..On a lighter note there's a girl around my area who runs her SRT-4 up at the drag strip. She runs consistent 12.6's with not many mods. That's double the whooping, getting beat by a neon with a girl driving the hell out of it. I love it. There was a vid circulating some of the local boards of her toasting a viper. Gotta love that

FbodTrek

like all sport compacts.........NO sex appeal. An f-body is a thousand times better looking even if it's slower than the srt.

Redballboy

heh lets not forget the 2002 camaro z28's and SS's we could get for the same price now

ddn69

exactly what Im trying to say.

As for keeping a LS1 chevelle. Or a GNX as a daily driver. It can be done easily. New 350 engines, and them turbo engines are pretty good on gas. (unlike 454 olds and stuff of the old days.) Granted you might want to live in FL, and have full coverage, live in a place where no1 steals cars too would help. Since they are very pricey cars. But if your building a LS1 chevelle lets hope your making it un stealable.

Ill agree for the money and brand new theyre fast. BUT you can easily pick up a 95 Eclipse GSX and mod it with a little money and easily beat the SRT. And deff. be way under the price range of the srt. Make it look 100 times better too!

Nate

fly89gta

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You guys never cease to amaze me....

If it's not a V8 or not a domestic it's garbage....face it...some of the newer sport compacts are faster that a lot of slow *** trashy thirdgens out there....


As for a GNX, riiiiiiight...if you daily drive a GNX you should be shot....

A regular GN, fine....but the more and more you mod it the less reliable it is....

fly89gta

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Can't get a '03 or '04 SS now can you

SOLID LIFTER

Wow, look at this mess! What happened in here?

A 454 Olds hahaha WTF?

Trust me a V6 or 305 firebirds not going to look "sexy" after getting it's doors blown in by a neon.

I'ld much rather have the quick neon than the slow but "fast looking" firebird.

The LS1 comment: of coarse they only cost $20,000 they're used! Wait a year or 2 when the SRT-4s are selling for $11,000.

ddn69

Im not saying that a GNX SHOULD be used as a daily driver. I said it can be. Im also gonna opt to defend the fellow members. Were not all american happy. If theres a respectable import usually well back it up. (Subaru STI, Eclipse GSX? Supra, Etc.) But a Dodge ***** neon.cmon... Dodge mind you dodge IS an american company...Since when did they decide to go from chargers and hemis to turbos and no headers on a duck fart exhaust. Lets face it usually the girl will pick an LS1 SS Chevelle over a turbo duck fart american neon anyday. I guess we all have to bow down to the Brandy new 13.5 timed Neon. But myself Id much rather be driving an STI. Earn alot more respect in that car.

Sorry for the flame. But this is a 3rd gen/american board..Lets keep it that way...

Nate

fly89gta

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right and GM didn't butcher some of the older cars right? make them FWD family cars


I'm not saying I'd go run out and buy the SRT Neon but it deserves credit and respect...it'd sure put a hurtin on your LG4 and is MUCH better looking too

SOLID LIFTER

When?.......Sometime in the mid '80s.
Mopar found out they could run just as fast or faster than fords mustang(auto) or GMs F-body by tossing a turbo 4cyl. in an OMNI (:hail: GLH). They must of thought, why should we build a large V8 car when our light 4cyl car can do the same things. The GLH was better on gas and it was cheaper than the mustang and F-bodys.

So it may make some of you happy to know that a US brand was the first to build a fast 4cyl. econo car.

SOLID LIFTER

BTW: there are still people building GLHs and GLH-Ss and running them into to 12s and 11s!

Goes Like Hell !

SOLID LIFTER

Have you ever seen a mid 80's nova or lemans? *spew*

ddn69

Ehhh Neon in my mind deserves about as much respect as a Beetle...But I guess more respect then a Tiburon. As for beatin my car. Of course it would my car is 20 years old. Car production is bad these days. There is no real muscle anymore. Frankly I wouldnt be surprised if they killed the mustang to soop up the Focus even more. Everyones just about weightless cars and 2 pound turbos. Bah. The mach1 and GTO didnt even live up to their name...

Sorry for getting so off topic. Im on a rant.

Nate

fly89gta

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yeah, you feeling ok? lol

it's all good...nothing like a nice clean debate

SOLID LIFTER

I'll give you the GTO. But the new MACH 1 is just as good or better then it ever was, that car flat out rocks!

TTA 1387

The new GTO will run circles around any previous GTO made, period. That's a fact.

As for no mucscle being made now, where have you been. There are more cars out now that are "fast" then anytime in history. Muscle cars of the 60's were dogs for the most part. Only a handful of them ran anywhere the new cars out now. Time does a wonderful thing of skewing people's view of something.

And to bring it back to 3rd gens, I'll take my buick V6 over a small block anyday

FbodTrek

They were some of the fastest production cars ever made: Superbee, Roadrunner, Shelbys, Caliente comet, Catalina, Hemis', Boss 302, SS 396 Chevelle....the list goes on and on. Theses cars weighed 3 times what the Neon , eclipse, Subaru did. The Road runner came from the factory making 13 second passes, as did the Shelby. Catalina ran high 13's......... THAT is muscle! Go to Musclecarclub. com and look at the list, the late fifties to the sixties was THE era for muscle. I can put a few turbos on a 2000 pound car and make it do 9's, or I could own a classic-that just keeps increasing in value and is one of the sexiest cars in history. Lets see you pick up women in your 9 second civic, I bet I get WAYYYY hotter ones in my Chevelle.......